A loved one asked for a stand mixer for Christmas but fuck KitchenAid because I'm not paying 200+ dollars for a kitchen appliance. Are there any cheaper options that aren't complete shit?
Are there any non KitchenAid stand mixers that are worth it?
A loved one asked for a stand mixer for Christmas but fuck KitchenAid because I'm not paying 200+ dollars for a kitchen appliance. Are there any cheaper options that aren't complete shit?
No.
I've gotten 3 for free in the last 12 years by going through what people are throwing out in Chevy Chase during spring/fall cleaning weekends.
Currently rocking pic related. For free it's great. I wouldn't want to pay $300+, but I could see myself paying $250+ if I needed one and didn't have access to a free one.
Getting one secondhand is a good idea. May see if I can do that.
A lot of times they might be broken or running poorly and just need a new sacrificial gear or some food-safe grease on the gears.
if you want cheap high quality stuff, read the obituaries and go to boomer estate sales. Their spoiled children will sell 400$ mixers for 50$ because they are retarded.
Or just throw them out cause they got a new one, that's how I got mine
nice breadmaker bro.
Thanks anon, but I replaced it with a rice cooker and the bread maker now lives in a cabinet as I prefer local bakery bread or baking my own in the oven.
Kenwood stand mixers are just as good as KitchenAid, but the price is probably similar, unless you live in Europe, where they are cheaper.
>Kenwood
Can it kill someone if you drop it on them? No?
I just looked up this brand and it's twice as expensive as KitchenAid...
well, you obviously suck at looking things up because they have a wider price range
just like a pooner, it lacks the right attachments
We use Kenwood over here because I never saw Kitchenaid
I use Kenwood at home and Kitchenaid at work. I vastly prefer the latter. And do get the heavier, more expensive version, you'll be saving yourself days of waiting in your life.
And I'd definitely never buy that multifunctional thing in your pic again either. Buy separate, more expensive tools. They're far more efficient (workflow, cleaning, storage) than that giant. Especially if you cook with someone else.
depends if you bake or make super wet dough. I got mine for 200+ and I have not regretted it.
I purchased my first KitchenAid stand mixer in 2003 because one of my wives idolized Rachel Rae. It cost $200 then. It still costs $200. Ponder that.
Hobart created the KitchenAid line and made the mixers before selling the brand to Whirlpool. They never saw the quality decrease that Whirlpool/KitchenAid did. Slightly more expensive, however.
No need to spend that much
KitchenAid mogs because spare parts are plenty and its just solid. You don't neeeeed one but it is nice if you make things often that could take advantage of one
See that's the thing though, I don't know if they will end up using it a lot, or if they will use it for "demanding" jobs. They've never made bread, so I have no idea if they're planning on using this thing to make dough, or what. So maybe they can get by with something lesser. I don't want to get them a cheapo that's gonna break immediately, but I also just can't afford to spend KitchenAid money on one
I'd get them a gift card for some place that sells them then. If they really want one they can spend the rest of the money themselves.
If they don't already make bread, 90% of what they are doing could probably be done with a cheap electric hand mixer.
It sounds like it's something they "think" they need and not something that will actually make what they are doing in the kitchen any easier.
>I'm not paying 200+ dollars
lol
Kitchenaid is already entry level. the $200 option is not even worth it. if you want something half decent you'll have to pay 500+. there is no cheaper, just much more expensive
I was worried that this would be the case
It depends on what you're doing.
If you're doing cake/cookies or similar items, you'll be fine even with the cheaper units.
If you want to do heavier doughs for bread and shit, then yeah you'll probably want a heavier duty model.
>pay 500+.
lol
Thats entry level you need to pay 12k plus
>he doesn't spontaneously generate all of his ingredients and then use supermundane prowess to create a finished product
Can you even call yourself entry level?
Shut the fuck up you spoiled, manipulative brat, nobody asked you.
Bosch is the only consumer grade alternative. Anything more expensive is getting into professional grade. Anything cheaper than 300 dollars is trash and even 300 dollars is cheaping out if you're going to heavily use it.
listen anon, you need to come to terms with the fact that you get what you pay for. if you buycheap shit, you get cheap shit. Stop being cheap on something you could concievably use everyday for the rest of your life.
>A loved one asked for a stand mixer for Christmas
My thoughts on this is that it depends on how big of a loved one this person is. This is a gift that will last a life time and the Kitchen Aid brand is really sought after with kitchen hobbyists/pros and with women in particular. If they mean a lot to you I would probably just get it.
>loved one asked for a stand mixer
>they obviously mean a kitchenaid
>op is going to buy them a shitty, cheap alternative that they're going to have to live with, constantly being reminded how shitty of a person OP is, until they decide to buy their own kitchenaid and throw his in the dumpster
Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PZpKWcMxGo&ab_channel=Lucija1729
For the record they specifically asked me not to buy a KitchenAid because they also don't want me to pay that much. I took everyone's advice and spoke to them about what they would be using it for and how often it would be used. They decided they didn't want me to buy one after all because they didn't realize anything below the price of a KitchenAid was going to be terrible quality. I came into this not knowing anything about stand mixers so I assumed the popular brand was overpriced, as is a problem for MANY products.
>an honest and good take on Culinaly in 2021
Good on you, anon. The chad move would be to spend a little time sourcing a Kitchenaid for a good price, whether that's on Craig's List or Facebook Market or whatever people use these days, and getting them the good thing they told you not to because you just wanted to let them know you really care.
I'm thinking of doing what others have said and either seeing if I can get a good deal on black Friday/cyber Monday or find somebody who got an upgrade for Christmas who's selling their gently used one. I really want to get them one but i just had a second kid so we're a little strapped for cash at the moment
KitchenAids are pretty reliable but If you are mechanically inclined and want to make sure a used one is in peak condition when you gift it you could open it up and regrease it as well as swap out the sacrificial gear if it shows signs of excessive wear. I don't know about some of the newer fancier models with DC electronics but the classic pattern ones look pretty easy to work on and both parts and instructions are readily available.
This guy has a good guide if anyone is interested:
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Respectfully, it's a reasonably priced machine, in context, I think.
There is always a homosexual saying you need commercial level shit. Like you are making shit for 100s of people daily. They was making this shit with a wooden spoon and a bowl back in the day
Kitchenaid isn't "commercial level shit". Actual industry stuff is going to start in the four figure range. You either buy something decent like a Kitchenaid or stick to doing everything with a wooden spoon and a bowl. That's the point. It's stupid to buy a crappier version.
>Kitchenaid isn't "commercial level shit
that's his point...
he's talking about this fucking retard (
) you dumb homosexual
What kind of a retard would even think that the Hobart guy was being serious? It didn't even cross my mind that that's what that post would have been referring to. Have you seen a Hobart? That would be like installing a second oven in your kitchen.
>Kitchenaid isn't "commercial level shit"
maybe not, but I just checked and they are sold on many restaurant supply websites.
If you're using it for dough making, the "ankarsrum" is supposed to be a bit better for developing gluten and less likely to burn out with large batches.
But for everything EXCEPT kneading, its almost worse than a hand mixer.
I dont own either and dont make bread. If i was going to buy one, i think the cheap kitchenaid artisan is the most id ever need since id never bake more than enough for 2 loafs at a time, and no big batches of pastries either.
Bite the bullet and get a Kitchen Aide. If you can, buy one that's twenty years or older. They are easy to refurbish and parts are easy to get. While you have it apart get in sanded and powder coated in the color you want.
Buy once, cry once. My kids will get mine when I die.
It entirely depends on what you want to make. You can skate by with a cheap stand mixer if theyre not planning on using the mixer for heavy duty bread making jobs.
If you want to make bread that requires a lot of kneading, like sandwich bread or brioche, then you really cant be stingy with the mixer, because a cheap mixer will have a weak motor which will inevitably give out.
Higher end mixers have stronger motors so they are able to withstand heavy duty kneading for long periods of time without burning out
With that being said, you can make a lot of great breads without the use of a stand mixer, you just can't make specific loaves that require a high level of gluten formation. Some of those high gluten loaves you can however knead by hand, though it will take much longer, but highly enriched breads like brioche will be very difficult to knead by hand due to the high fat content
Picrel, making a double batch of brioche for this weekend. One loaf will become garlic bread and the other will be made into cinnamon buns
>All the cheap mixers are shit but I refuse to pay for one that isn't shit.
Well enjoy your shit mixer that will break within 2 years.
Imagine putting money on a cheap shitty KitchenAid(s) that will struggle with kneading anything bigger than a burger bun and will burn out in a few months of daily use.
Do yourself a favour and buy something proper.
>Imagine putting money on a cheap shitty KitchenAid(s) that will struggle with kneading anything bigger than a burger bun and will burn out in a few months of daily use.
bullshit, bullshit and also bullshit.
I have one that we use heavily, especially around the holidays. I have made very heavy doughs and it works fine. we know some people that own a small bakery and they have 5 or 6 of them for making small batches of frosting. they work the shit out of them. they had me look at one that was "loud" and wouldn't latch. the latch rod was bent because someone ugga dugga'd it (fixed), and the motor speed controller needed a calibration, and a minor tweak to its contacts.
an inspection of it's insides showed that it was in really good condition for what they use them for.
downloaded the service manual, and watched a couple youtube videos. easy peasy.
>Are there any cheaper options that aren't complete shit?
no
we have one and it is still going 29 years later, I just fixed one for a for a friend who is using it in a business. not meant for that, but easy to fix.
buy once cry once.