Are vegetables really necessary? Experts say you should have 5 servings of vegies and 4 servings of fruit per day. Apart from onions, I only eat about 20 pounds of veg (carrots, celery, cabbage) in a year, or less than 1oz/day, and I almost never buy fruit.
Theyre incredible toxic.
For you
Yes. I dont care if you die.
If he ate more vegetables would he die?
They are also man-made. Northern Europeans evolved where nothing grows for 5-7 months of the year and somehow these man-made plants that taste like ass are incredibly important to our diet?
Its there so you can shit better.
Here are the poo fetishists
The vitamins and fiber are good for you.
I just take a multivitamin and eat psyllium husk. What now, vegefags?
A man who cannot adapt to eat anything is weak and should be booted from the human race and his progeny ripped out by the stem.
Said the guy on the Siberian kayak building forum
I never did as well until I started eating a couple of pineapples every week, like 3-4. Its night and day, I feel fresh, can poop like a king and haven't caught an illness ever since. Maybe you find the fruit of your dreams as well anon, just try a couple.
Switching to the 1/1/2 meal structure where one quarter of my meal is protein, one quarter is carbs, and one half is vegetables changed my life. My excess fat practically fell off of me, my energy levels went through the roof, a lot of body aches disappeared, and my poops are single wipers every time.
Big if true. What veggies do you typically eat? I’m not overweight but I am very achy and my poops are 19 wipe + bidet catastrophes.
>Experts say you should have 5 servings of vegies and 4 servings of fruit per day
no produce growers say that.
most fruit sold in stores is garbage un ripe crap.
>4 servings a day
enjoy your diabetes.
USDA experts say it.
the illuminati pyramid is obsolete
>USDA experts say it.
the USDA will say anything the produce lobbyists tell them to anon. USDA has no fucking idea what's good for you.
this is hilarious, it's just the for basic food groups from the 70's with a cap. so what they went back to what they were telling everyone in the 70's?
What the fuck DO you eat, OP?
Meat (mostly venison and goose, but quite a bit of pork and chicken), lard, dairy, potatoes, rice, bread, beans, onions, and alcohol.
Been eating very little fruit or veg for the last 5 year and feel better than when I had a more balanced diet that contained more greens but more processed foods.
My energy levels are good, don't feel depleted, haven't gained any weight, shits are fine. So are more vegetables really necessary?
>more balanced diet that contained more greens but more processed foods.
Retard
Not implying processed foods are part of a balanced diet, saying that when I used to eat more fruits and vegetables, I also ate more processed foods at the time too, like fast food once a week instead of twice a year.
>stops eating goyslop
>feels better
>it was the veg!!!
braindead
>like fast food once a week
Yeah right
>amerifat considers fastfood once a week to be inconceivable
The point is the necessity of vegetables. If they're so essential, surely eating a such minimal amount for so long would have a bigger impact than not buying burger or pizza on the weekend. The absence of fast food doesn't make up for the absence of whatever vegetables are supposed to provide.
>blahblahblah
Hears a crazy idea. Try eating more veg and see if you feel even better or not. Or dont. What do i care. Just dont try to rationalize your choices with braindead logic. It literally triggers me.
>hears
>I only eat about 20 pounds of veg (carrots, celery, cabbage) in a year, or less than 1oz/day
Good god
recently i've been getting sceptical of vegetables. i've found that a lot of fiber just makes me constipated. what is stopping me from just mixing some offal into my stews to get vitamins and that sort of shit? do potatoes count as a vegetable?
I'm in almost the same boat as op. I eat 1-2lbs of onions and a bulb of garlic a week but basically zero green vegetables and maybe like 1 carrot and 1 stalk of celery a month. I eat an apple almost every day though.
can't relate; I snack on 1lb bags of baby carrots like they're potato chips
Baby carrots and grapes are the go-to snack of any straight-backed, alert gamer, myself included.
All you need is meat and cheese.
Almost every night I have two chicken thighs, and a can of beans with a glass of whole milk.
I'm still fat though because I'm an alcoholic, and I'll overeat or eat garbage after drinking..
Oh, and for lunch/breakfast I have breakfast sausage and eggs.
for me, it's microgreens. they are very easy to grow and like 40x as nutritious according to experts on youtube
Post your microgreen setup.
You can't digest most of them and mainly their use is ballast, making you feel full and improving movement in your bowels.
You can live perfectly fine without ever having ate...eaten... A vegetable.
this guy looks extremely healthy and looks and sounds totally intelligent I'll trust anything he has to say
lmao
Fred durst makes some good points here, except: "whats natural: cultivars aren't" neither is penicillin. Uses finger quotes. And falls into the classic "fruits aren't vetables" moron trap.
>not natural
>derived from Penicillium fungi
typical argumentum ad absurdum
skip your fruits and vegetables and wonder why you shit your pants after eating taco bell due to a lack of fiber in your diet.
fiber causes IBS and more poop
i'm explaining why americans get diarrehea after eating taco bell. not how much they shit.
Humans don't fully digest most vegetables. Potatoes are vegetables that people neglect. A lot of easy recipes call for vegetables like garlic, ginger, potato, onion. Rarely broccoli, carrots, corn... The one exception is stir fry where it's 90% vegetables
Idk I can just plop a can of collared greens in a stove with some salt and pepper and it tastes good to me. There aren't many vegetables I won't fuck with like cauliflower or uncooked carrots, but I'll eat carrots in a stew or drink carrots juice.
>necessary
They are the only real food, bro.
Meat, dairy, root vegetables, gourds, and grains are real food. Everything else is just garnish.
The 16 year subtraction for life span says otherwise against your pindick contrarianism.
It's true that most vegetables aren't as nutritious in practice as they look on paper- vitamins are bound up in less available forms than in animal products, pesticides and soil depletion really drag things down, and antinutrients are a problem- but they still have a lot going for them. We're just scratching the surface of what the gut microbiome can do, but it's clear that more microbial diversity is a good thing and that the more different plants you eat regularly the more diverse yours is. Vitamin C is essential in the diet and very hard to get enough of from animals (you need more than you think). Sulfur does a ton of good stuff and is abundant in quality greens. You also get full from greens without loading up on calories, so unless you're a pro athlete burning huge amounts of energy every day that's a definite plus. Raw veggies are mostly a meme, but if you cook or better still ferment them the good easily outweighs the bad.
People who eat no plants are healthier than people who eat only plants, but either lifestyle is frankly retarded; we're lucky enough to be natural omnivores, make the most of it. Don't go "plant based", but if you make room every day for at least some homemade sauerkraut, roasted brassica, or allium your body will absolutely appreciate it. Grow your own or at least shill out for organic if you value your health.
Fruit on the other hand is mostly skippable, at least here in America where it's all bred to be a sugar bomb. Sad!
eat blueberry
I totally agree with you. That's why became a strict vegan that ONLY eats or drinks things made from vegetables (water is not allowed). I've never been healthier. I lost 114 pounds in the first half year, and the pounds just keep melting off! Hahahaha!!
>People who eat no plants are healthier than people who eat only plants
>Fruit on the other hand is mostly skippable
and how did you come to these conclusions?
fruits are unnecessary imo, they have less micros than vegetables and the macros are pretty terrible (straight sugar + some fiber)
Outside of aromatics (onion, celery, carrot, garlic) the only vegetables I really eat are brussel sprouts and broccoli
That said I still do drink a glass of OJ most mornings
Yeah I dont really believe in fruit/vegetables either. Sure you need some I can believe that for the vitamins or whatever and you just eat a normal portion with dinner. I eat a lot of oats for fiber anyways.
I dont believe anyone who says they eat those 4 or 5 servings or whatever. You gonna tell me they eat dinner with 2 plates? 1 with some rice and meat and the 2nd plate full of vegetables. Ok bro.
>You gonna tell me they eat dinner with 2 plates? 1 with some rice and meat and the 2nd plate full of vegetables. Ok bro.
Is this nigga for real? Is it a logistic problem for you? You dont have enough plates in the house?
>They are also man-made.
Is animal husbandary not man made?
>Northern Europeans evolved where nothing grows for 5-7 months of the year and somehow these man-made plants that taste like ass are incredibly important to our diet?
Have you not heard of pickled veg? Which is also man made. They prepare for the time when nothing grows by pickling , big surprise, fruits and veg. They didnt decide "hey that shits man made and tasted like ass, im gonna become a carnivore for half the year"
Link me a post in any of the past 20 or whatever years post dinner threads where you see an anon eating a plate of carb and protein and a second plate with 3x the amount of the first plate with only vegetables.
Who gives a fuck what the neckbeards on the mcchicken board eat? Are you retarded?
I accept your concession.
What a fucking retard. Your mom didnt have enough veg thats why you have low iq.
Is it true cooked vegetables lose most of their vitamins?
no
in fact cooked carrots are more nutritious than raw
cooking frees up nutrients and makes them more easy to digest and absorb in many other fruits and vegetables as well
>Culinaly does nutrition
Pretty sure diet science is total bullshit I just what I'm attracted to - fish eggs meat milk cheese salt and some vegetables like capsicum, cucumber, radish, onion (cooked) and occasionally other vegetables. And I eat fruit like once a week.
Most of the fruit and vegetable at the supermarket is just unripe indigestible crap anyway.
Why do pre sliced carrots always taste like chemicals? I hate peeling and cutting carrots so I've been buying pre cut ones for the last month but they taste like shit. Even when cooked in stews for a while they still taste like chemicals.
When I peel them and cut them myself they don't, and it's not the source because they're all Publix brand carrots.
Cut carrots are washed in chlorinated water. At least the refrigerated ones are. Frozen ones might be okay.
makes a lot of sense, thank you. ill try frozen carrots next time.
whole roasted carrots are the most flavorful and also the most nutritious
>and also the most nutritious
I've always read that steaming is the most nutritious cooking method, or actually microwaving. Roasting is higher temp which destroys some nutrients. Boiling is okay too if you drink the liquid after.
>Roasting is higher temp
>what is slow roasting
I swear about 95% of posters on the food & COOKING board know nothing about cooking
Unless you're slow roasting at 200F it's going to be hotter than steaming. I've never seen anyone cook carrots at that temperature. Roasting and slow roasting are also distinct methods, that's why one has "slow" in the name to specify that it's at a lower temperature than regular roasting.
Do you need an ego boost that badly that you'd reach that hard to make that comment?
the nutrients in carrots are not destroyed by high heat
you are thinking of broccoli and things like that
At the very least, carrots have vitamin C which is destroyed more by higher temperatures. I'm not sure about anything else, but I don't think I've ever read that higher temperatures have any benefits regarding nutrition when cooking vegetables.
It might not make much of a difference anyway, and if you like roasted carrots more than steamed and you'll eat them more often then it's still a good tradeoff.
>I'm not sure about anything
clearly
Mongols never ate them. Mongols were factually much bigger and stronger than any other people that are grains and vegetables. Veggies are just filler.
Vegetables are fruits are not
fruit is a vegetable