Convince me that Italian isnt the most pitifully overrate food in existence

Convince me that Italian isnt the most pitifully overrate food in existence

>spaghetti with colatura di alici, evidentially Campanias claim to fame

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Calling something "overrated" is a smoothbrain take 100% of the time. You're not actually talking about the thing; you're talking about the fans of the thing and/or just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Just fricking say that Italian food is fine but Italians are insufferable when talking about food.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please just talk about the dishes you prostituteson

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      High IQ post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You're not actually talking about the thing; you're talking about the fans of the thing and/or just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
      This.
      Actual big brain take would be to properly compare and contrast thing-you-like to thing-you-dont-like.
      But OP is a homosexual who knows his preferences don't survive any scrutiny, so he just resorts to smearing others.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        High IQ post

        why would i waste my time changing the mind of someone with the culinary capacity of a toddler?
        go eat some chicken tendies with mayonaise

        Calling something "overrated" is a smoothbrain take 100% of the time. You're not actually talking about the thing; you're talking about the fans of the thing and/or just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. Just fricking say that Italian food is fine but Italians are insufferable when talking about food.

        its time to leave grandmas table Giusseppe

        mama mia!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP
      I like Italian food but talking to Italians about food/espresso/etc. is aggravating because they swear that the way their family does it is the only correct way. Also don't get me started on 'authenticity' of dishes that are less than 100 years old.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My favourite strater:
        Carbonara - cream or no cream
        Then duck away and watch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This Italian Michelin Star chef says that cream belongs in carbonara so it's settled

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >aggravating because they swear that the way their family does it is the only correct way
        The last place I worked was a little wine bar/farm to table type bistro place that was owned by a couple. The guy had 40 something years restaurant experience and ran the BoH, and his wife had no restaurant experience and ran the FoH.. She was kind of terrible, but was so friendly and personable that all the regulars loved her. She was Italian and lived there for most of her childhood, and always had very strong opinions about our food that she was always 1000% confident in (I was the sous chef, so it was basically me and the husband writing the menus, and both of us having to deal with criticism from the wife - which occasionally got a little awkward as you can imagine). The chef was madly in love with her, but he would frequently vent to me about her bad food takes. The one that always stuck out to me was that he hated most of her pasta dishes (particularly baked pasta dishes) because she would always cook the pasta until it was basically soggy, and insisted that's the best way and the way she grew up with. I always thought it was funny because there's that stereotype of Italians cooking pasta al dente, but here was an Italian lady who did the complete opposite because that's how her family did it, and would defend her soggy pasta till the grave. It's all just completely fricking arbitrary, but if they're talking to non-Italians they will always frame it in terms of "Authenticity" or "this is how we do it at home", when in reality it's no different than an American saying Miracle Whip is the only sandwich spread that should be used simply because that's what they were raised on, except an ignorant American is far more likely to be aware of their own ignorance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice blogpost, moronic homosexual.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not fricking with Italians for the seethe
        I used to date an italian girl and her family prided themselves on their espresso, which they pronounced express-o. One of her aunts made her espresso so thick you could "stand a spoon in it". When she handed me a cup, she suggested sugar while putting some in her cup. I drank it straight while staring into her soul to assert dominance. Every successive family gathering had people stare at me while I took my first sip of pure espresso.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >One of her aunts made her espresso so thick you could "stand a spoon in it". When she handed me a cup, she suggested sugar while putting some in her cup.
          Yes, Italian espresso is pretty terrible. Needing to add sugar to espresso is a really good litmus test for making bad espresso
          >burnt beans
          >robusta beans
          >no distribution to prevent channeling
          >no scales or timers for something where 1g difference has a massive difference in taste, instead just going by 'feel'

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So just say it slightly differently and in more words?
      >just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
      literally you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >So just say it slightly differently and in more words?
        Or you could just take the thread where it belongs.
        Because you're not actually talking about food to begin with.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP reduced to a b***h homie in a single post

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP fricking destroyed
      Colatura di alici tastes great btw

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You complaining about misuse/overuse of descriptors is more obnoxious, as is me feeling the need to decry you for that then reflexively castigate myself for the same thing. This is pointless, I'm gonna go take a shit and forget about this thread.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you as stupid as you made yourself sound with this post?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing stupid about that post. It is weird that it for some reason triggered you, though.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the type of post you can't argue against because the person who thinks that it's cogent is probably incapable of reason.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How's it not cogent?
            It's a direct statement of the thread's purpose and the quality of discussion you can expect from it. And looky loo, he was right. Thread sucks because there's no actual substance to it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would love (Love, LOVE) to ask you how that post isn't cogent, but I know your answer would just be to call me too stupid to understand, so it's not worth your time. I'd be amazed if you even knew what "cogent" means. Many such cases.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If only there were a way to condense your post into one single term that everyone in the audience who wasn't completely autistic could understand. If only we could think of something to explain that the fans of something are perhaps treating it as though it was rated incredibly highly, perhaps higher than it should be. Huh.
      >you're not actually talking about the thing
      Fricking duh, moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fricking duh, moron.
        Then go discuss it on /bant/, idiot.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this homie thinks I'm OP and not some other anon
          I bet you're brown

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Never accused you of being OP.
            I just said you should frick off to /bant/.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just use my phrase for it instead of your phrase.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They invented the liga so ant kind of rating is actually an underrating

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's liga

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know I just made that up

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        liga ma balls

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Liga my balls

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why would i waste my time changing the mind of someone with the culinary capacity of a toddler?
    go eat some chicken tendies with mayonaise

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine thinking italian is some sort of sign of class

      Send the address of your trailer park i’ll send you a nice french cookbook

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >easier than most
    >better tasting than most
    overrate these nuts

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you think italian food is the best you genuinely have the tastebuds of a brooklyn sewer rat

    prove me wrong

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Italian cuisine is mostly about having a ton of great ingredients that you only have to valorize with very simple recipes. Even a basic dish like spaghetti with tomato sauce can taste divine if you use real San Marzanos, artisanal pasta, fresh italian basil, high quality extra virgin olive oil, etc.
    Americans try to replicate italian dishes with their processed shit and then wonder what's the big deal.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Americans try to replicate italian dishes with their processed shit and then wonder what's the big deal.
      Why do yuropoors think that America, the wealthiest country on earth, doesn't have access to shit like San Marzano tomatoes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the soil is not the same, you won't ever have real San Marzanos

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          San Marzanos are in literally every grocery store

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can make a photocopy of the Mona Lisa but that won't make it the real Mona Lisa

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              San Marzanos from Italy are in every American grocery store
              Also I remember when these were just called Roma tomatoes

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon but you are a moronic cooklet

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek oh nononono did anon pay eight times the normal price from some specialty Italian grocer? Dumbfrick. By the way, it's a fricking meme, Italian tomatoes really aren't special at all compared to Californian tomatoes, and California actually has the oversight and regulation to ensure that the real thing is getting shipped out instead of some mafia-planted forgery.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Kek oh nononono did anon pay eight times the normal price from some specialty Italian grocer?
                I don't live on a 3rd world country so I don't know what are talking about

                > By the way, it's a fricking meme,
                It's not. I traveled around the world all my life and the provenience does a lot of difference

                But I also envy your moronic tastebuds, you can eat bottom shit tier food and not realize how shit they are

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've traveled and eaten around the world too, moron. You're not special, plenty of Americans are capable of going to Italy and seeing how plain and forgettable their food is. We have everything they have, but better. But, again, maybe they could've preserved a shred of their dignity if they were actually honest with these products they tout as the greatest thing on the planet. They say their cheese, olive oil, tomatoes, wine, etc. is all the best, but apparently it's so good that outsiders can simply never ever taste it, and that's why we get diluted swill for every single one. They can cry all they want, they deserve to be replaced by California.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I've traveled and eaten around the world too, moron. You're not special,
                I'm not, your tastebuds are special like the Olympics
                > plenty of Americans are capable of going to Italy and seeing how plain and forgettable their food is.
                The majority of Americans can't tell their asses from their mouths

                Normal people can taste the difference between food that comes from different places, you apparenty can't

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also the majority of Americans can't understand different places in the same country do food very differently and in the Italian specific case, they order pizza and carbonara in Venice or Milan because they can't even understand Europe is a continent, imagine how hard it is for them understanding that different part of the same country does things extremely differently

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hahaha mad because we have more money AND we have your precious pomodoro san marzano

              They arent even special. Another italian propaganda piece to boost local economy. I have bought one tomatoes from the amish that you will never savor in your life. Enjoy your factory farm bullshit kiddy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The San Marzanos at my store rae a DOP product, they're the exact same tomatoes they sell in shitaly. have a nice day.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's the same sold all around Italy. Transportation and marketing needs makes the San Marzano sold even in different parts of Italy itself lose all its interesting taste

            Outside from that, San Marzano are the choice for tomato spiace, they are not the best tomatoes you can eat in Italy.

            Tomatoes from Vesuvio piennolo are better than San Marzano for example and there are way better tasting IGP tomatoes around Italy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anal pasta

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm Chinese and I guess it's because we have some culinary similarities but I don't think Italian cuisine is overrated at all, actually in my mind it's underrated
    People need to try real Italian cuisine and real Italian flavours but they aren't getting it
    The fact that spaghetti bolognese is such a popular dish shows me that the majority of westerners have terrible taste
    Carbonara with cream? Why the frick do you think it needs cream?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Carbonara with cream? Why the frick do you think it needs cream?

      Because it takes an already great dish and improves it in every way. Improves texture making it a bit more "saucy", improves taste, increases fat content and therefore nutritional and caloric (you know what you EAT sth for in the first place) value.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s similar because they stole noodles from china

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would people who eat with sticks invent something that you need a fork to eat?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An important factor in the quality of a cuisine is how quick it is to prepare. A dish that only takes 30 minutes to cook will always be better than one that takes 5 hours because cooking is work and all work sucks. Italian pasta dishes can be whipped out really quickly, which is why they are good.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Italians food is like the only food that will just put one fricking thing on a plate and serve it. Where are my side dishes. Don't you understand the enhancing effect of having complimentary side dishes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So get the Tour of Italy the next time you go to Olive Garden.
      Or get a side of buffalo wings when you get a pizza from The Hut.
      I think the biggest issue is this desire for authenticity, when it reality most foreign foods tend to be poverty foods that can be vastly improved with msg and symmetry. I mean, most Italian meals can be vastly improved with garlic alone.
      I wish I could get a pizza with garlic as a topping.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh sides
      go eat your box mac n cheese you swine

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All they do is eat pasta all fricking day. Just watch any youtube italian food channel.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because you're eating dog shit americanised italian food.

    Even when I went to Rome, the food was an americanized bastardization of what italian food actually is because if the restaurants made it as rustically as it's made in the country it would conflict with the american palette due to actually being food

    You need to find a fat old wog lady with shit english to make it for you or it's going to suck.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    seems like this bait thread is doing exceptionally well

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Butter and cream are shit tier ingredients. If your cuisine doesn’t heavily lean on fermentation then it’s uninteresting at best

    Cheese get a pass. Every europoor country knows this. Hence why Worcestershire or colatura di alici exists.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If your cuisine doesn’t heavily lean on fermentation then it’s uninteresting at best
      that is some of the most poorgay shit I have ever heard.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >whos
        whom's*

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          whomst

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Koreans delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Goryeo... shadow and flame.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Butter and cream are shit tier
      Non-white hands typed this post

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Italian is overrated, i just only like certain dishes and only when they are executed very well. Most Italian dishes are executed poorly, and most people think Italian is basically spaghetti and meatballs, pizza and lasagna. I actually really like a good gnocchi in either a white or pesto sauce, i adore calamari when it is cooked tender in the center and not rubbery with a good marinara or (because i'm an american dumbass) a spicy ranch. One of my favorite dishes was some baked ziti my italian friends mom made when i was a kid.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT : mutts having horrible tastes and opinions

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, I'm not particularly fond of it, but I don't know why you're so upset over this lol

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ugh italian food is so shit, it's nuffin but carbs and pasta wtf

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people living off burger king and wendy's talking about food

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's ok Giuseppe

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >carbs
    >more carbs
    >carbs wrapped in carbs

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's tasty poverty food, but no one in the first world should eat like that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It's tasty poverty food, but no one in the first world should eat like that.

      Pasta is a lazifying meal unfit for the passionate and active Italian people

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PASTA BAD
        RICE GOOD

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most italian dishes are mediocre but the good ones are bangers

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pasta
    Chinese

    >tomatoes
    American

    >cheese
    older than Rome

    Italians DEVASTATED they have NOTHING!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's over wop bros

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