Dutch tv show found out most supermarket cheap honey is actually syrup with a little added honey.

Dutch tv show found out most supermarket cheap honey is actually syrup with a little added honey.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tv said it so it must be true.
    Sounds reasonable tho

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    damn, must suck to be dutch

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The beekeepers they interviewed said it's impossible to get real honey at the price the supermarkets sell it so I think it's probably true everywhere

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here in Sweden the arab shops normally have everything cheaper because its imported from wherever and they dont have the "top" brands, but strangely enough honey is way more expensive there than in the supermarket. Literally everything else is cheaper, so really does make me wonder.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's cheap because standards aren't as high abroad
          And honey is more expensive because in Europe we produce a lot of it ourselves, whereas MENA barely have bees
          Don't shop at import stores unless you know specifically what it is that you are buying

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The honey they had was greek though, not just some random no name stuff, this brand. They normally have good produce from med countries, but its still cheaper than normal stores. With honey its the opposite.

            I think this was like 30 eur for a kilo, tempted to buy it next time tbh, just to see if it shits on the lune de miel that I got last that honestly tastes kinda syrupy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Speaking from experience there's no chance a honey product from Greece is inauthentic. Same goes for olive oil. This is opposed to Italy which still has the mafia controlling some parts of the food industry

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Financially supporting the invader that wishes to destroy your culture.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks the big stores are locally owned

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >give money to the israelite that owns the big stores and is donating to bring them home
            >buy directly from the ones already here
            Theres no winning, at least one of them charges you less.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you think usa does not do shenanigans like this, think again

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ITT: Coping burgers conveniently forgetting that they don't even get real sugar in their obesity riddled third-world shithole. They even have to go to Mexico to get real Coca Cola. Thanks for all the laughs fatties! Lolololol!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sugar from beets is more real than sugar from corn

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Given that sucrose is a disaccharide, which is metabolized to one fructose and one glucose molecule (Caspary, 1992), it has been argued that there is little difference between fructose and sucrose, since both provide about 50% fructose and 50% glucose in the blood stream; and until recently, there was no evidence that HFCS contributes to long-term weight gain beyond what sucrose contributes (Forshee et al., 2007). However, the present study suggests that HFCS and sucrose can have different effects on body weight and obesogenic measures.
          Correct, they are not the same.
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3522469/#:~:text=Over%20the%20course%20of%206,and%20elevated%20circulating%20triglyceride%20levels.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it has been argued that there is little difference between fructose and sucrose, since both provide about 50% fructose and 50% glucose in the blood stream
            >However, the present study suggests that HFCS and sucrose can have different effects on body weight
            >can
            real compelling Study there buddy. now post the one about Sneed oils

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You didn't read it lmao. Read it if your monkeybrain can and you will see how hfcs makes rats gain weight more than sucrose does, even if they consumed less grams of hfcs than the control group eating sucrose . Cope hard fatnon, cope hard

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rats=people

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >massive cope
          I avoid corn because I've seen (seeing right now actually) how it kills brain cells. Sugar is sugar and you israelite slave Black folk have to get superior Coca Cola imported from Mexico because you're not normally ALLOWED real sugar in the "land of the FREE" lolololol!

          Love you really, just bantsing you, so don't have a stroke. x

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally all it took to cause a mass yuropoor spergout

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >yummy HFCS mmmmm
        >yuros are poor
        You haven't even got healthcare because you send all your tax to Israel lol

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Discussing honey
        >LOLOLOL DUMB EUROS
        >Deleted post seething at euros
        You are an obtuse basketball american gorilla monkey

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You girls actually thought the stuff you get off the shelf was authentic 100 percent bee vomit?
    LOVING EVERY LAUGH

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cheap honey that isn't marketed as genuine honey is actually not genuine honey
    >Most cheap honey btw, not all cheap honey
    >If you go to super market and buy cheapest honey, there is a chance it's actually genuine honey still, but >50% that it isn't
    K
    Just don't buy the cheapest shit. It's cheapest for a reason, dumbdumb

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cheap honey that isn't marketed as genuine honey is actually not genuine honey
      But it is marketed as genuine honey. The official certified tests don't pick up the difference between real honey and this syrup, only a newer test which is not yet certified picks up the difference. The label says 100 % real honey.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Source?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I saw it on a Dutch show called Keuringsdienst van Waarden but there is more about it on the web, like here.

          https://joint-research-centre.ec.europa.eu/jrc-news-and-updates/food-fraud-how-genuine-your-honey-2023-03-23_en

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >joint-research-centre.ec.europa.eu
            kek not clicking that

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >kek not clicking that
              I'm sorry I don't have a Joe Rogan clip where he discusses this matter

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    We buy local honey at the supermarket. Living in California is the best.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Emmm yeah we have all that stuff too, but it is a lot more expensive than the supermarket honey. Likewise if Cletus sells those jars down the road for 3 dollars, it's probably fake as well.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man Im not even that Anon but you are coping right now. my local beekeeper is a dude I work with at a factory and he does it in his spare time as a hobby. he charges like 10 dollars a jar just to cover the expenses.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So you agree with what he said, but don't understand what he said.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no dude cletus is my homeboy he only charges enough to cover his meth addiction

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if Cletus sells those jars down the road for 3 dollars, it's probably fake as well
      Damn euros really don't live in a high trust society, if they ever did. Not only is Cletus' honey real, he leaves it on the tailgate of his truck with a cardboard sign and you leave some money in an unattended box. No "tikkie" expected for the self service, and no theft

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god damn it feels good being an american

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you can't taste the difference, does it really matter?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What happens if you try making mead with the fake honey tho? That'd be my main concern

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        don't you have some coastal regions to raid?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >LESS TALKING, MORE RAIDING

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        corn syrup "mead" sounds like something they'd do in prison or brazil

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ive made mead and spoken to (and bought honey off) beekeepers. its perfectly do-able but the fake honey just tastes like shit in comparison

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean technically, sure. But I'd consider that a failure.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The same thing that happens if you make wine from pure white sugar, or corn syrup. It's still wine, juet a different flavor. If you like the honey, even if it's "fake", then the mead will be alright.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It matters when nobody can taste the difference and nobody knows what food is supposed to taste like anymore.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably in Europe where everyone is too poor to afford real honey.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The local place near me is twice as expensive as store-bought, but you get slightly(20% or so) more and they literally have the bees on display and you can watch them collecting it, because they make some cash showing it to schoolchildren and hte like.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It is likely illegal in Europe to have hobbies like that.
    The per capita income is also lower than west Virginia.
    Not even sure they can consider themselves first world.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread turned into americans seething about Europeans
    Insane

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In most countries it can only be called honey if it's pure

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    damn, must suck to be dutch

    >if Cletus sells those jars down the road for 3 dollars, it's probably fake as well
    Damn euros really don't live in a high trust society, if they ever did. Not only is Cletus' honey real, he leaves it on the tailgate of his truck with a cardboard sign and you leave some money in an unattended box. No "tikkie" expected for the self service, and no theft

    >they don't know

    >https://www.businessinsider.com/fake-honey-problems-how-it-works-2020-9
    >https://www.vice.com/en/article/884kq4/your-fancy-honey-might-not-actually-be-honey
    >The exact amount of fake honey in the world is up for debate. US-specific numbers are harder to come by, but one lawyer, who's behind several class-action lawsuits accusing honey brands of fraud, puts the figure as high as 70%.
    >“We tested about 60 to 70 different companies, and we found that about 50 to 60 percent of those honeys tested are bad honey," Heitzinger said. "Out of 110 products, around 70 percent were adulterated. There’s been something done to them. It is just pure fraud in our opinion. They're selling products to the American public that isn't what it says it is.”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, i don't think any of the above americans will be replying to this

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that's fine, if you buy the little plastic bear you get what you deserve. The guy I get my honey from is basically my neighbor. I drive past the hives

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >around 70 percent were adulterated

      Keep in mind that the most common honey adulterant is just water to increase volume. Not that I disagree with their conclusion, but I wouldn't trust Vice to tie their own shoes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That article is largely for foreign honey, where they don't have to do shit and can sneak it in and dumbshits buy it. And even then they are including filtering as an "adulterant" so they really are stretching shit to make it seem like more of a problem.

      https://i.imgur.com/wSIY1EK.png

      The honeys in this pic were sent to a lab to be tested and only one of them was what the label claims. Which one do you think is the real honey?

      All of em are probably fake, they all look like shit. The Amber one is probably the real one, but even then it's in a shit ass little bear so I wouldn't trust it. The raw one doesn't have jack shit in it that would prove it was raw.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That article is largely for foreign honey
        Isn't it cool how somehow it's more economical to take your honey, ship it all the way to China, and then receive "honey" back in conveniently sized bottles? 100% domestically produced honey.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >thirdies working for shit wages is shocking

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can’t tell the difference between syrup and honey or maple syrup then you deserve to be ripped off.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The honeys in this pic were sent to a lab to be tested and only one of them was what the label claims. Which one do you think is the real honey?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’d have to taste them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tennesee mountain honey ?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You'd think so but nope, the walmart "great value" honey was the only legit one.

          I’d have to taste them.

          This assumes you've actually tasted real honey to have a reliable baseline. When 2/3 of the honey on the shelves is fake, it's entirely possible that you've never had the real thing unless you've been buying it directly from beekeepers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So which one, you fricking moron, I'm waiting.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i assume the organic one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never get honey with a bear container.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the opposite. All the 'organic' and 'raw' shit is way more likely to get fricked with.

          Hippies went full moron on honey and have everyone convinced eating comb and pollen and bee legs and all the other shit that gets suspended in LE-RAW honey tastes better and is somehow better for your immune system than pure honey (it's not). They charge an arm and a leg for it because 1. they are grifting and 2. they are operating small hobby businesses with high overhead.

          Pros run thousands of hives and produce SHITLOADS of honey. My family had years where we averaged 90-199lbs of honey per hive. If it's in a bear container from a major brand and looks fake, that means it's probably real. The reason it's so clear is because it's pure honey and nothing else. All the contaminants get filtered out, the honey is extracted from the comb in centrifuges and heated to low viscosity then pressurized through screens to filter out particulates. This requires a bunch of expensive equipment and only makes sense if you're producing a ton of honey so hobbyists and small farms simply can't do this at the scale necessary.

          The big distributors have strict quality control on what they buy and how they process it. They want consistency across all their suppliers so it stays liquid in the container as long as it's sealed. If your honey is cloudy or crystallized that means there's particulates in there, the glucose will eventually crystallize on the edges of the container given enough time but it occurs much faster when there is particulates suspended in the honey. The foreign material provides surface area for the sugars to form crystalline structures on and the honey begins to cloud up or form granules.

          t. Dad was a beekeeper who sold honey to sue bee for almost 30 years.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The big distributors have strict quality control on what they buy and how they process it. They want consistency across all their suppliers so it stays liquid in the container as long as it's sealed.
            i mean, that's all well and good to say and may have been the case years ago, but as we've learned in recent years with all the reporting and studies on it, it seems they care a little more about saving a buck if they can fool the consumer.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it seems they care a little more about saving a buck if they can fool the consumer
              Outside of the US sure, but not so much for domestic distributors. The vast majority of 'fake' honey on the market is imported from asia.

              If a major distributor was fraudulently advertising adulterated honey as pure it wouldn't just be the customers suing them, it would be all of their their beekeepers suing them too. This stuff is serious business, people's entire livelihoods and careers depend on it.

              You can look up True Source Honey audits if you're interested in tracing honey off the shelves back to the hives.

              Go look at True Source Honey auditing and

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Outside of the US sure, but not so much for domestic distributors.
                it's also a problem in the US. see

                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                >they don't know

                >https://www.businessinsider.com/fake-honey-problems-how-it-works-2020-9
                >https://www.vice.com/en/article/884kq4/your-fancy-honey-might-not-actually-be-honey
                >The exact amount of fake honey in the world is up for debate. US-specific numbers are harder to come by, but one lawyer, who's behind several class-action lawsuits accusing honey brands of fraud, puts the figure as high as 70%.
                >“We tested about 60 to 70 different companies, and we found that about 50 to 60 percent of those honeys tested are bad honey," Heitzinger said. "Out of 110 products, around 70 percent were adulterated. There’s been something done to them. It is just pure fraud in our opinion. They're selling products to the American public that isn't what it says it is.”

                >like 7 years ago
                My son, honeygate was in 2013 and it was the continuation of an investigation from 2008. Please don't rely on netflix for your education.
                >https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-china-honey/u-s-charges-five-in-honeygate-anti-dumping-probe-idUSL1N0BKCRX20130220/
                >The charges accuse the defendants of falsely declaring honey imported from China as other commodities in order to evade more than $180 million in anti-dumping duties, officials said in a statement.
                Companies have been importing fake honey from China and labeling it as domestic honey for at least a couple decades and probably much longer, since I highly doubt the government jumped on them as soon as they started doing it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the walmart one because they can't risk the liability

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If any one of them could risk the liability it would be Walmart.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometimes I think all the stories about 80% OF OLIVE OIL/HONEY BEING FAKE are just fear mongering from weird artisanal cabals who want to inflate the price of luxury oil and honey brands

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Subway sandwiches are made from yoga mats !"

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some random netflix docu found this out like 7 years ago. get with the times.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >like 7 years ago
      My son, honeygate was in 2013 and it was the continuation of an investigation from 2008. Please don't rely on netflix for your education.
      >https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-china-honey/u-s-charges-five-in-honeygate-anti-dumping-probe-idUSL1N0BKCRX20130220/
      >The charges accuse the defendants of falsely declaring honey imported from China as other commodities in order to evade more than $180 million in anti-dumping duties, officials said in a statement.
      Companies have been importing fake honey from China and labeling it as domestic honey for at least a couple decades and probably much longer, since I highly doubt the government jumped on them as soon as they started doing it.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no! My simple sugar syrup may have been mixed with more simple sugar syrup!

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm swedish and my mom has a beehive on her property, the beekeeper gives her some honey in return

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've just yandex it.
    >In December, a complaint was filed against Strange Honey farm, owned by Gary and Fonda Strange, alleging that its raw local honey is not from Tennessee, as it advertises on its bottle and website. The lawyer's lab testing found that the "local" honey from Tennessee came from Vietnam. "Moreover, it is not 100 percent honey," Heitzinger and Buehler wrote in the suit. "Syrup has been added to the honey, because syrup is much cheaper—about one tenth the price of pure honey."
    The article is so badly written that I gave up. I guess none of them are honey.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      maybe you should bing it instead

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't trust american search engines, I don't want to catch gay Black person aids.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't buy honey often but the few times i have it's this expensive shit. it's an opaque viscous paste with a little grit to it and it is divine. i like to think that because it's not the transparent shit that it's legit. i don't know though.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i just own property where the bees live and they pay rent in honey

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats the deal with hot honey

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's hot right now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's being memed because it's much easier to fake due to the taste being obscured by the added flavoring.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How did you not know this? I mean kfc hasn't actually had honey for at least 20 years, those little packets are just honey flavored syrup

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the final redpill is that none of the food you buy at the store is made out of real food. its all artificial poisons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's pretty reckless given that soi is an allergen

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Soy (isn't filtered on the food board) oil is usually processed so much that it doesn't contain any proteins that cause the allergic reaction. People with peanut allergies can usually have peanut oil because of that too.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I hear this but I get sick from soybean oil and it still makes me face break out with acne. I've also come across this many times on forums. It's only the official line that seems to be that soybean oil is safe, and it doesn't align with my experience or what I've read from other people.

          Funny that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >People with peanut allergies can usually have peanut oil because of that too.
          i doubt that. peanut oil is peanuts thrown into a food processor and the oil is skimmed off the top, that's it. it does not undergo the extensive processing that soybean/canola/other seed oils need to become palatable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the oil is skimmed off the top, that's it.
            That's called refining. Depending on how much you refine it, you can refine it down to a very small band of the oil spectrum.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I've seen countless beekeepers who sell their own honey in the polder you ignorant clap.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is why I only buy the good stuff.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is just nonsense. You couldn't justify buying that even if you were rich. Full course meals at 5 star restaurants don't cost that much.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guess if you make over a million bucks a year a grand is frick it money, like you make that much while you're asleep.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in Oregon where every third person has a hive
    >implying I care about your flyover struggles

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based on this and yuro precedent this means all honey and i mean ALL honey in europe is fake and corn syrup
    sorry not sorry euros you set the rules not me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm euro and afaik anything but actual real bee vomit is required by law to be labeled as "honey product" instead of honey over here.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what, honey is literally like 99.9998% sugar syrup

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >there are people in this thread that aren't Dutch
    Grim

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wilders licks Israeli boot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        show me a political leader of a prosperous country in the west that doesn't

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just buy a case of raw honey every couple years, it never goes bad. I don't know how people can eat that refined shit you get in the bear container. It tastes nothing like honey.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ameripoors chimping out again

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This trickery is old news, though. I don't use a ton of honey, probably only a teaspoon at a time. I am still working on my 3 bottles of orange blossom, avocado honey and lychee honey for years. At the rate I use it, any price is fine for me.

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Slightly related this guy goes around killing invasive killer bees and sells their honey online if anyone is curious he also has a Youtube channel.
    https://www.youtube.com/@KillerBeeGuy
    https://killerbeeguy.com/store/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Save the bees!
      >but not those bees that are doing great, kill those ones >:(
      I hate environmentalism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they are everywhere because bee keepers are keeping them even though they aren't supposed to. their honey yield is way higher

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I bet native Americans wish he'd kill invasive fatties. 🙂

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just check the container. Does it have a best before date? Yes? Then it ain't honey.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I buy local honey from your mom's place

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >he believes the TV
    >he doesn't look at ingredient lists

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