Is it really overrated? Sure, japan exports a lot of media and therefore their food gets more exposure to westerners than say, lebanese cuisine. But the only japanese food I’ve had is sushi, ramen, and tofu. I live on the east coast though. Not a big japanese population.
Nah, that would be France. A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
>A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
It would be fairer to state that it is the only way to cook fine dining because its techniques have spread everywhere and are used for every cooking style in every country at every high-end restaurant. You would have to make a conscious effort to open any kind of high end restaurant and not include techniques that ultimately originate from French cooking.
>A lot of people >consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
Yeah. Those of us who can actually cook. We also know Belgians, Japanese and Italians
>Nah, that would be France. A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
True.
But how seriously can you take asian methods that depend on so much bullshit for cooking daily meals? The assholes just use starch to thicken sauces instead of nust doing a reduction.
Pies, soups, glazes, sauces, icings, asian assholes will just dump some rice or patatoe starch in there.
Can you imagine how much better prepacked food would be if none of it ever adopted Asian cooking methods?
And don't get me started on them adding tones of msg to shit.
Japanese is the most basic and bland cuisine in asia. It all tastes the same and the majority of it is either raw in sake/soy sauce or fried. the only positive about it is that the chefs are autistic about food and try to perfect food but if you pick up a japanese cookbook and you'll see nothing but repetition.
Hispanice is good sometimes, but it's mostly used by third world shitskins to hide the fact that they are using bad, often spoiled, ingredients, and people who don't really know how to cook. Not using Hispanices is a downright retarded criticism of a cuisine.
>third world shitskins to hide the fact that they are using bad, often spoiled, ingredients
https://knowledgenuts.com/Hispanices-werent-used-to-cover-the-taste-of-rotten-meat/
Japan really has some great food scams.
Small pieces of Fish on a rice ball $25
Steak that is all fat $200
A puffer that could kill you if the chef is having a bad day.
They don't tell you about the fish. They just serve it. Most of them don't like speaking to foreigners and would not bother to communicate that information. As for why it matters that the fish came out of japanese waters, it means you are eating something that was never frozen is extremely fresh.
The best Japanese food is either the street food they have like takoyaki and okonomiyaki, or the "Japanese" version of western dishes like japanese curry, hamburg steak or napolitan pasta. They're not fancy, but they're easy to make and taste fairly good for basic fare.
their spin on chinese dishes is also good. When it comes to the absolute traditional stuff I tend to agree, but my perception of washoku is skewed from having to cook it myself with imported goods (and most likely lackluster technique). Also a lot of dishes I tried (kombu tsukudani, nasu dengaku) are considered "old people food" by the japanese youth (at least according to the guys on /int/)
>the "Japanese" versions of western dishes like japanese curry, hamburg steak or napolitan pasta
Are literal shit. You're 100% an anglo to hold an opinion this abhorrent.
i watch anime like crazy, used to want to try pocky. but never had a desire to eat japanese anything in my life, not even Sarku. Actually I did have Beard Papa's. Those were alright.
>The Anti-Japanese sentiment on Culinaly feels very artificial
Someone needs to drop 2 nukes on Japan for what they did at Pearl Harbor. They basically 9/11'ed a military base, and this can't go unpunished!
>It's every day, why single out Japan?
Maybe we should start singling out China because they put lots of MSG in their food.
MSG is a Japanese invention.
>why single out Japan?
lol. There's endless British food threads, Scandi food threads, "Do Americans really?"...Japan barely gets a mention you coping weeb.
the reason you get "singled out" is because you say some retarded nip fetishization shit like
>omg I can't believe how good kewpie mayonnaise is! it's sooo much better than western mayonnaise! >guys check out my hatsumoto knife set made from Japanese steel folded over 10,000 times and my shokutatsu sharpening stone. so much better than victorinox and it only cost me a 30 year mortgage >the nihonjin diet is so balanced and smart and the cooking style is so elegant. chef sama spends 10 years learning how to cook the tamago and each meal is like fine art. >I hate fried chicken; I've been eating karaage chicken for every meal it's so oishii >guys!! don't bully Japan!!! you're being so zankoku na tenshi no you ni tbh ne
1 month ago
Anonymous
I can't believe I got memed into buying kewpie kek. It's fucking garbage.
1 month ago
Anonymous
no one says anything like that, if you say something like "hey this japanese dish tastes great" you get the ">thing japan" spammed at you. any positive comment about japan gets bombarded with that shit do yes it seems artificial
A lot of it spammed for bait by sharty naggers but its foolish to discount it all as artificial. Its not 2007 anymore Weeb and Otaku culture is not only mainstream but practically everywhere on the Internet with naggers pretending like Japan is some sort of White Wakanda 24/7.
>I still get made fun of on my most social media platforms for it
Just because something is mainstream doesn't mean its accepted by those outside of the subculture just look at punk and scene kids or even everyone hated them back in the day but they were still everywhere.
>raw fish/seacritters with rice >chicken/beef stock with noodles and an egg >chinese chopstick >soy sauce
What else do they have? Even american Black folks got more variety in their food. No wonder japs eat KFC for christmas
Nah, Japanese is inoffensive to the point of neutrality. Thai however doesn't have a single dish that doesn't leave you feeling disappointed you didn't get Chinese or Indian instead.
Japanese food is inteded to have a balanced flavor profile, but as a result often comes off very underpowering compared to someone like me whose tastebuds prefer and are more accustomed to Hispanice-heavier cuisines like Mexican and Indian food. They have some bangers but it's probably just hyped by Westerners because weebs. I prefer Korean when it comes to East Asian food. It has alot more Hispanicy food.
What do you mean it's not heavily Hispaniced? I've bought probably more than 4 or 5 different Hispanices just to make dishes from it, just last year alone. For Japanese, I've never used more than soy sauce, mirin, and rice wine as a "seasoning" (If you even want it to count as that) like 70% of the time. Sometimes sesame oil. Although I can't really complain, because I like the reusability of ingredients. It's alot more economical.
Mexican dishes don't use many Hispanice outside a few plates. For every mole and birria there's salsa verde, carnitas, carne asada, pozole rojo, chilaquiles, barbacoa, bisteck en salsa negra which require fewer than 5 Hispanices
One thing that is stupid about Japanese high end sushi is how they present their fish. Like why the fuck should I care if the fishes were caught and only caught in japanese sea by japanese fisherman from japanese fishing boat.
Well since you mentioned high-end, I'd like to know everything about the fish if I can, makes the experience a lot cooler than knowing it's just some farmed fish
>why is this specific speciality-aimed product better than a product aimed at the low-end mass market?
retard
you're also trying to assume that this kind of product doesn't exist in places like Mexico.
I'm sure there are fish all over the world that are worth it.
Japan imports from many countries.
Unfortunately, the timing, method, and post-capture processing are just not good enough.
I don't envy their cuisine, but I do envy the convenience. The fact you can go to basically any corner store and get good healthy proteins like Salmon in walking distance without having to prepare it yourself makes it infinitely more easy to not become a ham planet.
t. amerilard
any japanons able to chime in? My only experience with convenience store food is solely chips and drink,I could never trust one of those roller dogs here in the states
the reason why you think japanese food is overrated is because it's mostly fake in the west
japanese diasporas in the west were basically destroyed due to ww2
so there are not many dirty japanese restaurants run by japanese themselves
and you saw some shitty american documentaries about japanese food on youtube and now you are mad
you think you are talking about food but not really
it's basically politics
the only thing I can think of that is overrated in Japan is bonito flakes. They go through a laborious process and just end up smelling and tasting like heavily smoked sprats. I don’t think anything other than sushi is seen as some sort of life changing experience or high society meal, but Japanese comfort foods are the best in the world and relatively healthy. Katsudon, oden, and okonomiyaki are my favorites.
You guys are clowns. I actually visited Japan. The food is great there. The cuisine itself isn't all that complex or special but it's all very high quality and very inexpensive. And sushi is just raw fish but it's really fucking good when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before.
Japanese people are too polite to tell you to fuck off. They will tolerate you coming to their country, speaking none of the language, and demanding they serve you in their restaurants, bars, hotels, etc.
Japanese food is overrated. It's only good because japanese are autistic about being perfectionists and make good food in general but pick up a fucking cookbook and everything looks the same and underwhelming. good cooks but overrated food
I don't really get this point. What is japanese cuisine if not the food they serve you in japan? It is highly rated because the quality is super high. You can't make this decision by looking at cookbook. It is actually incredible if you are there. Simple stuff like egg dishes and sandwiches, traditional stuff like ramen, sushi and udon, street foods like takoyaki and okonomake and meat skewers. All of it is cheap and much better than you can get eating out in the USA (excluding outliers). I've been to a few countries in the world, not too many, but I've been to france, chile, portugal and a few others. Only Japan in Asia. And the quality blew me away. No other country i went to was similar.
And btw the invention of sushi is huge. Sushi is an amazing and delicious food. If that was the only thing they added to the world food landscape that still makes japanese cuisine world class.
because there's a difference between japanese food and japanese food made by someone who has been doing it for years. the food itself is average but someone who has been doing it for 10+ is going to taste better than someone who is just making it. You can get that same japanese chef and make him perfect BBQ but it isnt the representative of what BBQ actually is
because there's a difference between japanese food and japanese food made by someone who has been doing it for years. the food itself is average but someone who has been doing it for 10+ is going to taste better than someone who is just making it. You can get that same japanese chef and make him perfect BBQ but it isnt the representative of what BBQ actually is
jesus, you two. get a room and fuck each other already
. Japanese are autistic about food in general and try to perfect it. Japan has multiple michelin star restaurants from other cuisines not just japanese food. once again the food is average but the people who cook it can make it better than average. you're welcome
1 month ago
Anonymous
>michelin star restaurants
This meme again. Come the fuck on
>when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before.
This is mostly a western meme. Why it's a meme becomes apparent within five seconds of looking at the history of sushi and it's origin as a fermented product.
>when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before
That's only for shrimp, shellfish, and some fish that decompose quickly.
Except for cheap sushi restaurants and some areas, most sushi restaurants basically age their fish before cooking it.
A brief description of the procedure is as follows
>Fishermen catch the fish
The fish is killed with a single blow
Drain the blood from the fish in ice water
Remove the marrow with a wire
>Various preservation methods for transport
Fish are wrapped in special paper to protect them and placed in ice
Place the fish in a plastic bag and float in ice water
Freeze using the latest special freezing technology
Feeding oxygen to the fish in a case filled with seawater to keep them alive
>Processed by a chef
There are various methods depending on the fish, so if you are interested, please do your own research.
I wont be suprise that most of people who post things like OP are Mexican, Italian cuisine or Chinese cusine fans. Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset cannot enjoy 1st world food.
>Mexican, Italian cuisine or Chinese cusine fans
good stuff >Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset
lmao, thats embarrassing, i hope you don't act like this offline
>Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset cannot enjoy 1st world food.
Ironically it's third worlders who go nuts the most over jap shit. I constantly see videos of thirdies in sheer awe over things that we get in the west but they think only exist in japan.
You are wrong, ask any Chinese, malays, indian, mexican etc. If they are actually awe over jap food, you would be suprised.
Remember that people like tatsumasa murasame are all 1st worlders.
See these 3rd worlders?
>Mexican, Italian cuisine or Chinese cusine fans
good stuff >Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset
lmao, thats embarrassing, i hope you don't act like this offline
It is, most of their shit is just aped from china anyways. Most south asian food mogs anything japan can put out.
If we're talking pure numbers to normalfags then french/italian is probably the most overrated. Japanese food by far has the most annoying dickriders on Culinaly specifically
Basically on the same level as a random italian guy who has never been in a kitchen before talking about the "true" Italian way to cook something except with the angle of folding food 10000x and how it took 20 years for the chef to master the art of asiaticinomi
the thing that sets japan apart is autism. a jap will spend decades perfecting one dish, that's teh only dish they sell, and it's incredible to eat
i'll all about that shit
I was talking to this cute zoomette a month or so ago. She asked me if I could only keep one country's cuisine, what would I keep?
I concluded Italian because pizza and various pastas. But I also said French, even though I don't know half of what constitutes French cuisine, but that was mainly because most of the haute cuisiners obsess over French food.
She made a good argument for Thai.
If I had put in more effort, I probably could've got somewhere with her, but I started feeling uncomfortable about pursuing a relationship with a girl 10 years my junior (this is something I need to get over).
?
We talking about 60 year old boomers or something? The youth are absolutely enamored with japanese food, just look at the people soying out in the average youtube comments section
>Raw fish >Organ meats >White rice with raw egg on top >Fermented beans >Even foods that are supposed to be normal like fried chicken actually have chunks of cartilage and shit in it >Fried foods are submerged in broth to soften up
Japanese food is straight garbage
>rice miso and fish for breakfast >noodles for lunch >rice miso and fish/cutlet for dinner
kinda unbased tbh. no wonder they're shorter than their korean counterpart
The only thing that really counts as a meal in that picture are the soups. Everything else are just individual food items aesthetically placed on- or near eachother. I mean, i like it and would eat most of this but it's not really impressive in terms of skill, creativity or even culturally.
>he says while eating up shartistic drawing of someone littering goyplastic and and petrolium-based insulators
it's not even a very good painting at that, just meaningless nonsense to make low IQ people like you drool over
Why does Asian food always look so difficult to eat
If I'm hungry I just want something I can put into my mouth and eat, not pick apart like I'm dissecting a frog to take a bite
These are fine dining stuffs, youre suposed to spend your time when coming to this kind of restaurant.
For fast food you can have the sobas, takoyaki, or you can have some home pre-made dish like grilled fish, curry rice, pork/beef chop, pork soup with veggies if you are in a somewhat traditional family restaurant.
These are not dishes made for your American mind; as a matter of fact, your opinion literally doesn't matter. お寿司, おそば, ラーメン, おすき焼き, hell, even the sweet もち; these dishes are made for Japanese people, as well as those westerners willing to fully appreciate it.
Indeed, I won't. Without growing up in Japan, living there, learning Japanese as my native language and so on, I will never actually be considered truly Japanese.
And I'm fine with that.
I'm fully content with simply being an honored guest who respects and appreciates every aspect of this culture. In a way, 関西 will always be a home away from home for me.
We live in an age when all the information in the world is in your pocket and you still can't be bothered to spend ten seconds to see what actually goes into preparing the fish.
I think the thing that sets Japanese food apart from the other nations mentioned ITT is that Japanese food has the largest number of foreign defenders. It's always japanophiles who buy into the "muh sushi master who trained for 40 years in the mountains" tomfoolery that'll get up in arms about how only philistines would think japan isn't namba wan. Granted there's a language barrier when it comes to Japs defending their home turf, but japanophiles are regardless still up their own ass in a wholly unique way.
I wonder how much of the Japan worship comes from the fact that hiragana is the most aesthetic character set on the planet? かにはおいしいね. It actually looks great.
I kinda like Japanese food, but I have always found it annoying that people who do like it always claim it's the greatest food in the world. I worked with a guy that was Japanese and he invited everyone on his team to his house for that thing where you cook the food as you eat it or some shit...I can't stand that shit, and everyone there was like "OOOH" and "AAAHH" "OH WOW!" But I could tell on their faces that everyone was going to McDonald's right after, or anywhere, but that no one was digging that shit.
You should try not being a sedentary blob of adipose tissue then. >socialized healthcare
The healthcare in Spain specifically leaves a lot to be desired.
>You should try not being a sedentary blob of adipose tissue then
But I'm a cab driver. It's literally impossible for me to live an active life. I just eat every other day.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well in that case you probably know what's best for you. I'm sure being a cab driver is tough but posting on Culinaly from your taxi sounds kinda comfy.
eh, i like sushi tastes good.
I guess I like smoked salmon too. I just like fish. I will eat fish now God, I hate israelites so much, i hope i don't leave this world without doing what I want to do to my enemies
A red dot?
You shut your mouth about Singapore you fucking piece of shit
Majulah porra
Is it really overrated? Sure, japan exports a lot of media and therefore their food gets more exposure to westerners than say, lebanese cuisine. But the only japanese food I’ve had is sushi, ramen, and tofu. I live on the east coast though. Not a big japanese population.
Me Chinese.
Me no dumb.
Me go up.
Daddy's bum
Daddy go ppppppffoooooppppttt
*stinks*
That's how I get home so soon.
>japanese thing
😐
>non japanese thing
:0
Nah, that would be France. A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
Daddy go ppppppffoooooppppttt
*stinks*
French is really good, it's just not as good as French people think it is. Still one of the best but not the best
Yes that's what overrated means.
We're discussing 'most overrated' smoothbrain
>A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
It would be fairer to state that it is the only way to cook fine dining because its techniques have spread everywhere and are used for every cooking style in every country at every high-end restaurant. You would have to make a conscious effort to open any kind of high end restaurant and not include techniques that ultimately originate from French cooking.
>originate from French cooking.
Many don't though, they took techniques from elsewhere and formalised them.
>A lot of people
>consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
Yeah. Those of us who can actually cook. We also know Belgians, Japanese and Italians
when it comes to produce.
>Nah, that would be France. A lot of people consider French cuisine the be-all end-all of fine dining, and think French technique is the only correct way to cook.
True.
But how seriously can you take asian methods that depend on so much bullshit for cooking daily meals? The assholes just use starch to thicken sauces instead of nust doing a reduction.
Pies, soups, glazes, sauces, icings, asian assholes will just dump some rice or patatoe starch in there.
Can you imagine how much better prepacked food would be if none of it ever adopted Asian cooking methods?
And don't get me started on them adding tones of msg to shit.
You are simply ignorant regarding Asian cooking methods.
Japan has the most Michelin star restaurants apart from France
Japanese is the most basic and bland cuisine in asia. It all tastes the same and the majority of it is either raw in sake/soy sauce or fried. the only positive about it is that the chefs are autistic about food and try to perfect food but if you pick up a japanese cookbook and you'll see nothing but repetition.
>Muh Hispanices
nothing tops salt, butter and vinegar
Japanese food tastes the same. At least french food uses different ingredients. cope
Hispanice is good sometimes, but it's mostly used by third world shitskins to hide the fact that they are using bad, often spoiled, ingredients, and people who don't really know how to cook. Not using Hispanices is a downright retarded criticism of a cuisine.
>Spain
>Portugal
>USA
>South Korea
>shitskins using spoiled ingredients
outrageous cope from a delusional weeaboo
>third world shitskins to hide the fact that they are using bad, often spoiled, ingredients
https://knowledgenuts.com/Hispanices-werent-used-to-cover-the-taste-of-rotten-meat/
>jappepo season dey chicken wif da sake/soy sauce
Hispanicenaggers are the blown out whores of the culinary world
Only in Japanland is it considered a delicacy to eat uncooked fish. I mean, it's like those people never even learned how to make fire.
>Only in Japanland is it considered a delicacy to eat uncooked fish.
this is false
what is ceviche
Japan really has some great food scams.
Small pieces of Fish on a rice ball $25
Steak that is all fat $200
A puffer that could kill you if the chef is having a bad day.
They don't tell you about the fish. They just serve it. Most of them don't like speaking to foreigners and would not bother to communicate that information. As for why it matters that the fish came out of japanese waters, it means you are eating something that was never frozen is extremely fresh.
>not italians
Shit opinion
that's not an italian flag
why the fuck do they charge more than every other cuisine
The best Japanese food is either the street food they have like takoyaki and okonomiyaki, or the "Japanese" version of western dishes like japanese curry, hamburg steak or napolitan pasta. They're not fancy, but they're easy to make and taste fairly good for basic fare.
their spin on chinese dishes is also good. When it comes to the absolute traditional stuff I tend to agree, but my perception of washoku is skewed from having to cook it myself with imported goods (and most likely lackluster technique). Also a lot of dishes I tried (kombu tsukudani, nasu dengaku) are considered "old people food" by the japanese youth (at least according to the guys on /int/)
>the "Japanese" versions of western dishes like japanese curry, hamburg steak or napolitan pasta
Are literal shit. You're 100% an anglo to hold an opinion this abhorrent.
unironically mogged hard by all of its neighbors
Excuse me? Japan has hands down the most complex culinary culture in the entire world. Culinaly was even originally created just to discuss it.
>the most complex culinaly cultule in the entile wold. Culinaly was even oliginally cleated just to discuss it
I'm not Japanese. That said, please see pic rel.
>'m not Japanese
Just a weeb, got it.
even worse
Bet you only cry racism when it's japan.
God I hate weeabos.
I could spend 20 years learning how to perfectly draw a circle freehand, but it wouldn't make my art the best in the world.
It was not the Japanese who promoted Japanese food, but Weeb and the Chinese Koreans.
i watch anime like crazy, used to want to try pocky. but never had a desire to eat japanese anything in my life, not even Sarku. Actually I did have Beard Papa's. Those were alright.
someone gave me a rice ball. it was the most bland tasting rice i ever had. i felt bad i spit it up in front of them.
The Anti-Japanese sentiment on Culinaly feels very artificial
>The Anti-Japanese sentiment on Culinaly feels very artificial
Someone needs to drop 2 nukes on Japan for what they did at Pearl Harbor. They basically 9/11'ed a military base, and this can't go unpunished!
>I don't like it so its artificial
It's every day, why single out Japan?
>It's every day, why single out Japan?
Maybe we should start singling out China because they put lots of MSG in their food.
MSG is a Japanese invention.
>why single out Japan?
lol. There's endless British food threads, Scandi food threads, "Do Americans really?"...Japan barely gets a mention you coping weeb.
See what I mean? If you don't hate on japan you just get called a weeb, stop your black and white thinking
>See what I mean?
No I don't, why don't you cry some more?
You're the only crying here
This mfer said you're the only crying here
Oh my bad, I forgot a word. So you gonna keep crying about a random country or what
Calm down, Sailor Moon
Projecting much?
>no u
Figures
Like you haven't been doing the same thing? Lmao, keep going on about this country you are supposed to hate so much or something
You two need to just fuck and get it over with.
>NOOO SUTOPPU! NIPPON WO BURRY SHINAI DE!! YAMERO SUTOPPU!!! *crosses hands in an X pattern*
stupid wapanese homosexual get raped
You know a lot about Japan, do you like it or something?
Ambivalent. I like Japanese food but I don't feel compelled to defend its honor online, either.
What do you mean singled out? I've seen a ton of shitposting about a lot of cuisine. Like there's a meme copypasta for each of the Asian cuisines
If you mentioned anything that might be slightly positive about japan, you automatically get someone spamming the "thing,japan" meme
the reason you get "singled out" is because you say some retarded nip fetishization shit like
>omg I can't believe how good kewpie mayonnaise is! it's sooo much better than western mayonnaise!
>guys check out my hatsumoto knife set made from Japanese steel folded over 10,000 times and my shokutatsu sharpening stone. so much better than victorinox and it only cost me a 30 year mortgage
>the nihonjin diet is so balanced and smart and the cooking style is so elegant. chef sama spends 10 years learning how to cook the tamago and each meal is like fine art.
>I hate fried chicken; I've been eating karaage chicken for every meal it's so oishii
>guys!! don't bully Japan!!! you're being so zankoku na tenshi no you ni tbh ne
I can't believe I got memed into buying kewpie kek. It's fucking garbage.
no one says anything like that, if you say something like "hey this japanese dish tastes great" you get the ">thing japan" spammed at you. any positive comment about japan gets bombarded with that shit do yes it seems artificial
A lot of it spammed for bait by sharty naggers but its foolish to discount it all as artificial. Its not 2007 anymore Weeb and Otaku culture is not only mainstream but practically everywhere on the Internet with naggers pretending like Japan is some sort of White Wakanda 24/7.
I still get made fun of on my most social media platforms for it
>I still get made fun of on my most social media platforms for it
Just because something is mainstream doesn't mean its accepted by those outside of the subculture just look at punk and scene kids or even everyone hated them back in the day but they were still everywhere.
>white wakanda
damn it i hate that i have to share this website with nagger youth now couldnt you guys have stayed on triller or some shit
weebs are annoying and deserve ridicule
No they don’t, Japan is one of the best countries in the world and people are being shamed into hating it by homosexuals like yourself
Who else you know with as thick a roster as Japanese cuisine (without naming America)?
Japan = bland
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that has ever eaten jap food in this thread
miso and wasabi are genuinely great ingredients, besides that yeah it's a meme
Do you tell your mom her cooking is "a meme" too?
no and i have no idea what you're implying with that response?
>raw fish/seacritters with rice
>chicken/beef stock with noodles and an egg
>chinese chopstick
>soy sauce
What else do they have? Even american Black folks got more variety in their food. No wonder japs eat KFC for christmas
Wrong flag, Thai is the most overrated asian cuisine.
It's better than Japanese
Nah, Japanese is inoffensive to the point of neutrality. Thai however doesn't have a single dish that doesn't leave you feeling disappointed you didn't get Chinese or Indian instead.
Plain = offensive. "this cutlet is so bland I wish I wasted my money on something else"
>average daily salt consumption measured in fucking grams
>bland
I don't think you know what that word means
bland means Japanese food
Yeah thanks for proving my point, you don't know what "bland" means
look it up.
Is there any food that is underrated that all of Culinaly can agree on
No Japanese food is underrated
Japanese food is bland
Middle eastern food other than lebanese. Also African.
Japanese food is inteded to have a balanced flavor profile, but as a result often comes off very underpowering compared to someone like me whose tastebuds prefer and are more accustomed to Hispanice-heavier cuisines like Mexican and Indian food. They have some bangers but it's probably just hyped by Westerners because weebs. I prefer Korean when it comes to East Asian food. It has alot more Hispanicy food.
>mexican
>heavily Hispaniced
nope
What do you mean it's not heavily Hispaniced? I've bought probably more than 4 or 5 different Hispanices just to make dishes from it, just last year alone. For Japanese, I've never used more than soy sauce, mirin, and rice wine as a "seasoning" (If you even want it to count as that) like 70% of the time. Sometimes sesame oil. Although I can't really complain, because I like the reusability of ingredients. It's alot more economical.
Mexican dishes don't use many Hispanice outside a few plates. For every mole and birria there's salsa verde, carnitas, carne asada, pozole rojo, chilaquiles, barbacoa, bisteck en salsa negra which require fewer than 5 Hispanices
One thing that is stupid about Japanese high end sushi is how they present their fish. Like why the fuck should I care if the fishes were caught and only caught in japanese sea by japanese fisherman from japanese fishing boat.
Well since you mentioned high-end, I'd like to know everything about the fish if I can, makes the experience a lot cooler than knowing it's just some farmed fish
They over explain why fish from japanese sea is 100x better than fish from mexico. Or talk about fishes not native to japan is disrespected.
>why is this specific speciality-aimed product better than a product aimed at the low-end mass market?
retard
you're also trying to assume that this kind of product doesn't exist in places like Mexico.
I'm sure there are fish all over the world that are worth it.
Japan imports from many countries.
Unfortunately, the timing, method, and post-capture processing are just not good enough.
What are some of the most memorable japanese dishes?
I don't envy their cuisine, but I do envy the convenience. The fact you can go to basically any corner store and get good healthy proteins like Salmon in walking distance without having to prepare it yourself makes it infinitely more easy to not become a ham planet.
t. amerilard
any japanons able to chime in? My only experience with convenience store food is solely chips and drink,I could never trust one of those roller dogs here in the states
the reason why you think japanese food is overrated is because it's mostly fake in the west
japanese diasporas in the west were basically destroyed due to ww2
so there are not many dirty japanese restaurants run by japanese themselves
and you saw some shitty american documentaries about japanese food on youtube and now you are mad
you think you are talking about food but not really
it's basically politics
huh
Most people in Culinaly think they can replicate the chef's cooking after just a few tries.
and within the context of home cooking for yourself, your partner or family it's 100% true
the only thing I can think of that is overrated in Japan is bonito flakes. They go through a laborious process and just end up smelling and tasting like heavily smoked sprats. I don’t think anything other than sushi is seen as some sort of life changing experience or high society meal, but Japanese comfort foods are the best in the world and relatively healthy. Katsudon, oden, and okonomiyaki are my favorites.
>the only thing I can think of that is overrated in Japan is bonito flakes
you forgot to list mochi
their sandwiches, curry and pasta is shit and people who rate is is overrated.
Overrated lmao, sure. You mutts can't even prepare a salad without infecting it with your muttaids. Get the fuck off this board
make me
Why does France's flag look like that?
Overrated but still Kino
You guys are clowns. I actually visited Japan. The food is great there. The cuisine itself isn't all that complex or special but it's all very high quality and very inexpensive. And sushi is just raw fish but it's really fucking good when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before.
Japanese people are too polite to tell you to fuck off. They will tolerate you coming to their country, speaking none of the language, and demanding they serve you in their restaurants, bars, hotels, etc.
Japanese food is overrated. It's only good because japanese are autistic about being perfectionists and make good food in general but pick up a fucking cookbook and everything looks the same and underwhelming. good cooks but overrated food
I don't really get this point. What is japanese cuisine if not the food they serve you in japan? It is highly rated because the quality is super high. You can't make this decision by looking at cookbook. It is actually incredible if you are there. Simple stuff like egg dishes and sandwiches, traditional stuff like ramen, sushi and udon, street foods like takoyaki and okonomake and meat skewers. All of it is cheap and much better than you can get eating out in the USA (excluding outliers). I've been to a few countries in the world, not too many, but I've been to france, chile, portugal and a few others. Only Japan in Asia. And the quality blew me away. No other country i went to was similar.
And btw the invention of sushi is huge. Sushi is an amazing and delicious food. If that was the only thing they added to the world food landscape that still makes japanese cuisine world class.
because there's a difference between japanese food and japanese food made by someone who has been doing it for years. the food itself is average but someone who has been doing it for 10+ is going to taste better than someone who is just making it. You can get that same japanese chef and make him perfect BBQ but it isnt the representative of what BBQ actually is
So basically, what you are saying is that some cooks are better than others. Thank you for that insightful commentary.
jesus, you two. get a room and fuck each other already
. Japanese are autistic about food in general and try to perfect it. Japan has multiple michelin star restaurants from other cuisines not just japanese food. once again the food is average but the people who cook it can make it better than average. you're welcome
>michelin star restaurants
This meme again. Come the fuck on
>when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before.
This is mostly a western meme. Why it's a meme becomes apparent within five seconds of looking at the history of sushi and it's origin as a fermented product.
>when it came out of the ocean 12 hours before
That's only for shrimp, shellfish, and some fish that decompose quickly.
Except for cheap sushi restaurants and some areas, most sushi restaurants basically age their fish before cooking it.
A brief description of the procedure is as follows
>Fishermen catch the fish
The fish is killed with a single blow
Drain the blood from the fish in ice water
Remove the marrow with a wire
>Various preservation methods for transport
Fish are wrapped in special paper to protect them and placed in ice
Place the fish in a plastic bag and float in ice water
Freeze using the latest special freezing technology
Feeding oxygen to the fish in a case filled with seawater to keep them alive
>Processed by a chef
There are various methods depending on the fish, so if you are interested, please do your own research.
I wont be suprise that most of people who post things like OP are Mexican, Italian cuisine or Chinese cusine fans. Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset cannot enjoy 1st world food.
Korean food is good though
elaborate on what makes stinky cabbage and luncheon meat good?
>elaborate on what makes stinky natto and ketchup on spaghetti good?
>Mexican, Italian cuisine or Chinese cusine fans
good stuff
>Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset
lmao, thats embarrassing, i hope you don't act like this offline
>Most of those with 3rd worlder mindset cannot enjoy 1st world food.
Ironically it's third worlders who go nuts the most over jap shit. I constantly see videos of thirdies in sheer awe over things that we get in the west but they think only exist in japan.
>Japanese Joke Video
You are wrong, ask any Chinese, malays, indian, mexican etc. If they are actually awe over jap food, you would be suprised.
Remember that people like tatsumasa murasame are all 1st worlders.
See these 3rd worlders?
Lol So true
SEAfags are the biggest weeaboos though
They divide their time between being massive weebs and being butthurt that they aren't as loved by the world as Japan
Sure randos will say they like the food, that doesn't mean their food isn't inferior. Again most jap food isn't even original.
>imagine giving a fuck about cuisine on a fast food board
I don't think it's that overrated, just way worse than their other cultural output, like naruto and taimanin asagi
french and italian are most overrated
If we're talking pure numbers to normalfags then french/italian is probably the most overrated. Japanese food by far has the most annoying dickriders on Culinaly specifically
Basically on the same level as a random italian guy who has never been in a kitchen before talking about the "true" Italian way to cook something except with the angle of folding food 10000x and how it took 20 years for the chef to master the art of asiaticinomi
>thing japan
>:(
>thing not japan
:O
When did Mexico redesign their flag?
Mexican is anything but overrated. If anything it's underrated
the thing that sets japan apart is autism. a jap will spend decades perfecting one dish, that's teh only dish they sell, and it's incredible to eat
i'll all about that shit
We Japanese take the word autism as a compliment.
It is very interesting to hear your excuses for your laziness.
I was talking to this cute zoomette a month or so ago. She asked me if I could only keep one country's cuisine, what would I keep?
I concluded Italian because pizza and various pastas. But I also said French, even though I don't know half of what constitutes French cuisine, but that was mainly because most of the haute cuisiners obsess over French food.
She made a good argument for Thai.
If I had put in more effort, I probably could've got somewhere with her, but I started feeling uncomfortable about pursuing a relationship with a girl 10 years my junior (this is something I need to get over).
It is, most of their shit is just aped from china anyways. Most south asian food mogs anything japan can put out.
South Asian food is all overHispaniced dogshit that’ll give you diarrhea
>*has the most overrated cuisine out of any nation*
Nah, that's Italian cuisine.
I've found that most western people are disgusted, anxious, or turned off by the mention of Japanese food, so it doesn't seem overrated to me.
This seems closer to the truth.
?
We talking about 60 year old boomers or something? The youth are absolutely enamored with japanese food, just look at the people soying out in the average youtube comments section
>Raw fish
>Organ meats
>White rice with raw egg on top
>Fermented beans
>Even foods that are supposed to be normal like fried chicken actually have chunks of cartilage and shit in it
>Fried foods are submerged in broth to soften up
Japanese food is straight garbage
>rice miso and fish for breakfast
>noodles for lunch
>rice miso and fish/cutlet for dinner
kinda unbased tbh. no wonder they're shorter than their korean counterpart
that sounds comfy as fuck. maybe lay down the aspartame, Juan
There are anons who are eagerly trolling, are they going to reprint this thread to generate revenue?
The only people who hate Japan are chinks and brownoids
tempura fucking sucks
The only thing that really counts as a meal in that picture are the soups. Everything else are just individual food items aesthetically placed on- or near eachother. I mean, i like it and would eat most of this but it's not really impressive in terms of skill, creativity or even culturally.
Do you know how everything is cooked?
Wow the topics on here have gotten so dull it feels like I’m talking to bots
Blessings to the Nippon and their influence on our culture and culinary culture
I bless OP is just being a troll
Otherwise I’d gut people to get this tumour of a false world with false topics off our consciousness
ywnbj
>he says while eating up shartistic drawing of someone littering goyplastic and and petrolium-based insulators
it's not even a very good painting at that, just meaningless nonsense to make low IQ people like you drool over
you are not helping your case
>steamed eggs in teapot
immediate beheading
Why does Asian food always look so difficult to eat
If I'm hungry I just want something I can put into my mouth and eat, not pick apart like I'm dissecting a frog to take a bite
These are fine dining stuffs, youre suposed to spend your time when coming to this kind of restaurant.
For fast food you can have the sobas, takoyaki, or you can have some home pre-made dish like grilled fish, curry rice, pork/beef chop, pork soup with veggies if you are in a somewhat traditional family restaurant.
See, that's the beauty of it.
These are not dishes made for your American mind; as a matter of fact, your opinion literally doesn't matter. お寿司, おそば, ラーメン, おすき焼き, hell, even the sweet もち; these dishes are made for Japanese people, as well as those westerners willing to fully appreciate it.
Not you.
Anon is literally this webm
Do you understand what the word "literally" means?
Yes, I doxxed you and I know you're that actor
Give up the act
You will never be japanese
Indeed, I won't. Without growing up in Japan, living there, learning Japanese as my native language and so on, I will never actually be considered truly Japanese.
And I'm fine with that.
I'm fully content with simply being an honored guest who respects and appreciates every aspect of this culture. In a way, 関西 will always be a home away from home for me.
Asian food is already cut up into bites so you can eat it with their eating pencils, what's easier to eat than that?
Cry about it, asiatic.
How do you get a crowd so dense you crush over 300 people, killing over 150? Are they just retarded?
Good on this guy for thinking in 3 dimensions instead of 2.
That's not France.
We shoulda dumped our whole arsenal on Tokyo, then the entire island sinks into the pacific, get rid of the trash
Thanks for proving why Americans are the fucking scum of the Earth and need to be nuked several times over, god I hate you savages.
How the fuck is sashimi 'fine dining'.
nagger, a slice of raw fish is an ingredient, not a fucking dish.
What the fuck am I paying the chef to do it not cook the fucking food?
because an old japanese man spent 62 years learning how to plate that raw fish now pay up white pig
We live in an age when all the information in the world is in your pocket and you still can't be bothered to spend ten seconds to see what actually goes into preparing the fish.
I think the thing that sets Japanese food apart from the other nations mentioned ITT is that Japanese food has the largest number of foreign defenders. It's always japanophiles who buy into the "muh sushi master who trained for 40 years in the mountains" tomfoolery that'll get up in arms about how only philistines would think japan isn't namba wan. Granted there's a language barrier when it comes to Japs defending their home turf, but japanophiles are regardless still up their own ass in a wholly unique way.
best food is Gulf Coast, followed by Southern, then British.
I wonder how much of the Japan worship comes from the fact that hiragana is the most aesthetic character set on the planet? かにはおいしいね. It actually looks great.
I kinda like Japanese food, but I have always found it annoying that people who do like it always claim it's the greatest food in the world. I worked with a guy that was Japanese and he invited everyone on his team to his house for that thing where you cook the food as you eat it or some shit...I can't stand that shit, and everyone there was like "OOOH" and "AAAHH" "OH WOW!" But I could tell on their faces that everyone was going to McDonald's right after, or anywhere, but that no one was digging that shit.
it's exotic, but simple enough for a white man's brain, so they can claim being "cultured"
thai, on the other hand.. kek
*has the best cuisine out of any nation*
I prefer not getting a stroke or CHF in my 40s.
>highest lifespan in Europe
>stroke or CHF in my 40s
Bubba...
That's because of socialized healthcare and walkable cities. Similar to Italy, and France too, but that food is NOT good for you.
You should try not being a sedentary blob of adipose tissue then.
>socialized healthcare
The healthcare in Spain specifically leaves a lot to be desired.
>You should try not being a sedentary blob of adipose tissue then
But I'm a cab driver. It's literally impossible for me to live an active life. I just eat every other day.
Well in that case you probably know what's best for you. I'm sure being a cab driver is tough but posting on Culinaly from your taxi sounds kinda comfy.
>Amerimutts obsess over sushi/only scratch the surface of Japanese food
>WTF IT'S SO OVERRATED
You did it to yourselves cunts
Amerisharts can’t eat anything that doesn’t have corn syrup in it
eh, i like sushi tastes good.
I guess I like smoked salmon too. I just like fish. I will eat fish now God, I hate israelites so much, i hope i don't leave this world without doing what I want to do to my enemies
yes it has more to do with quality of ingredients and delicate cooking methods than it does with composition or flavor profile.