How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber? I've seen the videos and I hate to think about the way they thrash and poke their snouts out of the cages, gasping for air.
How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
They should sell pork that has a QR code that takes you to a video of the pork in the gas chamber so you can make sure it was killed
>so you can make sure it was killed
I think it's fair to assume that, when you're looking at the pig's meat cut into pieces in a butcher case, the pig has been killed.
it's possible to die without being killed
Livestock that dies of "natural causes" vs. slaughter is illegal to sell. Same goes for (diseased) animals which are slaughtered just before they die of "natural causes".
interdesting
All grocery store meat is halal meaning they brutally slaughter the animal squeezing and all and let it die slowly in excruciating pain while a pedo mufti says Allah Akbar a few times
>gas chamber for pigs
THATS NOT KOSHER
Pork is not but the method is. It is called “CO2 stunning” and is sold as a way to “peacefully” render animals unconscious before the kill shot so they never see it coming. In actuality this results in the animal spending its last conscious moments terrified, confused, unable to breathe, thrashing and gasping for air. If you buy your meat from the grocery store you can bet it was “stunned” like this.
i don't eat that much meat honestly. I just think it smells bad.
I do drink a shit ton of titty juice though
I love you, we're like diamonds in the rough
what's wrong with you?
Why don't they just smother them with literally any non-toxic gas other than CO2? Nitrogen will smother any mammal without it feeling the sensation of suffocation.
Big nitrogen already owns crops, now you want to give them livestock too?
Don't forget that big nitrogen is trying to return the dinosaurs to the top of the food chain.
The US meat market is a satanic institution that thrives on suffering. It is literally demonic.
>literally
This. Go vegan, stop eating meat.
have a nice day
so?
I can't tell if this is bait or if some schizoid form /x/ got lost in Culinaly and just decided to roll with it
it's true, they harvest the suffering. also the negative energy attaches to the meat and karmically influences people who consume it (they are party/consenting to the system) thereby perpetuating the sick cycle
Don't all animals suffer when they get eaten by another?
I’m not a vegan but what kind of a fucking moron thinks this is a good defence of the meat industry?
Literally Satan himself is out there in his overalls and straw hat using magic evil beams to grow corn and potatoes, is that right schizo?
Each pig that screams in terror as it's gassed, each cow beaten and abused, each baby chick ground up alive, is a sacrifice to satanic evil.
Stop eating factory farmed meats and start going to church. Read the King James Bible.
get help
god told me to eat them so I eat them
its satanic for me not to give the gifts given unto me by the lord
>Why don't they just smother them with literally any non-toxic gas other than CO2?
CO2 cost almost nothing.
Using expensive non-toxic gas will raise the price for the consumer without adding value to the meat.
It is effective, CO2 is more heavy than air. The pig are placed in a small elevator that descends into the CO2 chamber.
>It is effective, CO2 is more heavy than air. The pig are placed in a small elevator that descends into the CO2 chamber.
Sounds like something the nazis would have done to the israelites in their death camps.
do those cattle farms use wooden doors for their gas chambers too?
What’s wrong with wooden doors being used in gas chambers?
holy fuck, this thread is full of “I don’t actually know a thing but I’m going to speak with authority and bumble my way through it”
CO2 costs ~50x MORE per unit than nitrogen, assuming CO2 canisters vs nitrogen generators, and the density of air is almost exactly the same as nitrogen because air is 78% nitrogen….no, it’s not the SAME density, but extremely close, and with proper circulation makes the density irrelevant. CO2 death is a violent struggle bc the brainstem has CO2 sensing cells, and is the brain’s first line of defense in respiration (i.e. your brain senses CO2 elevation in the blood long before it senses oxygen deprevation.) Your reptilian brain is absolutely screaming for air while you’re taking your last miserable breaths. Nitrogen deprivation is a slow, comfortable way to die as there is no brain stimulus for air hunger. It simply and slowly drops your total O2 concentration, your heart stops, you die. The sole reason CO2 is used instead of nitrogen in the slaughterhouse is the speed at which it kills the animal. The increased cost per unit for CO2 is outweighed by the speed of the production line.
t. pulmonologist and medical gas expert
>CO2 canisters
whenever a question like this comes up you can always assume because of cost effectiveness. if carbon recapture was cheap in large yield we'd be doing a ton of it rn
CO2 causes brain death faster, there is very little brain activity after unconsciousness
Inert gasses will put them to sleep without stress but the brain will remain active considerably longer after unconsciousness before the animal dies
t. had the same thought a while ago
Here they don't even shoot them or use one of those nail guns, they immediately grab them hang them upside down and cut their throat after they are knocked out by the gas. They do millions of them each year like that.
I wish small farms were still a common thing, instead of a curio for hipsters to buy overpriced "humanely sourced" meat.
Back in the old days, they used to feed pigs one last meal of bread soaked in moonshine and sugar. Knocked them right out, never knew what hit 'em.
The vast majority of times, the CO2 will take them out in one or two breaths, before they realise what's happening. These videos are taken from farms that either fucked up the concentration or didn't lower them into it fast enough.
Nitrogen is lighter than air so you can't quickly kill them by lowering them into a gas pit. CO2 actively harms the brain so it's very fast and there's less chance of them popping up fully aware compared to a noble gas that merely deprived the brain of O2 for a bit.
Why are you spending even a single second wondering how a pig died? Who cares? It could have been raped to death, that’s not changing how tasty bacon is.
You need a hobby or friends if you think about dumb shit first world problems.
Yes it literally does change how well your bacon tastes you dumb retard. Look up the effects of adrenalin and stress on meat quality. The quicker and cleaner the kill, the better the meat
That's an interesting point you bring up but I actually just don't care in the slightest.
It's not Halal, as it were, either.
You can buy from a ranch that uses a bullet to the brain instead.
Raise the pig yourself, take it to the slaughter yourself or slaughter it yourself.
buy meat from local farmers and hunters.
poor pig dude
Funny, I don't see any wooden doors
>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
the meat won't have gas streaks in it.
simple as.
seems like a very inefficient way to kill a pig. I call bullshit. also man up.
Has it ever occurred to you the price difference and consumer health hazards between that and a captive bolt?
Kill them yourself.
If you're too much of a coward for that, stop eating meat.
Do you realize how impractical having pigs are for most people?
>Do you realize how impractical having pigs are for most people?
So raise a cow or bull if you are muslim or israeli.
A bull is raising your wife as we speak
>It's impractical to raise a large animal for slaughter for people in urban enviroments
>sO rAiSe CaTtLe, israelite!
My brother in christ, you are 95% of the way to having a major breakthrough.
Oh fuck off that retard ruined any point he had the moment he started killing random people instead of industrial giants or anyone that mattered
>pork
Yuck!
It's hard to know what to believe
People say that the animals are suffering, others say that the examples you see are due to poor practises at a slaughter house
How can I trust that?
Lets assume that it is poor practises, how do I know what is the industry standard? How do I know which slaughter houses are compliant?
When I watch industry disaster videos it seems that it's common for managers and owners to be completely incompetent and cut corners for profit, if it's a pig suffering for a few seconds more why would they care?
They refuse to let people film the slaughter houses
I don't like the propaganda on both sides
hey now cool it with the anti-semetic remarks
Is gassing really an efficient way to kill animals? Seems like a bitch to setup and maintain while the animals also trash around like mad before they finally die after a minute or more.
Imagine simply adding carbon dioxide in a sealed room with no added oxygen. Wouldn't they get drowsy and doze off until they die of asphyxiation? I guess it depends on how many pigs you gotta kill per hour.
i have the same question. there's no way that it is easier to round up pigs and gas them instead of just shooting them in the head. maybe they can even modernize it by using computer vision to automatically shoot at pig heads
Eh I can see firearm use being a bitch. Gotta hit the correct spot or waste ammo while the animal suffers a ton too. Lots of potential for something to go wrong.
The butcher bullet gun thing that goes into the forehead seems like the closest thing but it might be a pain to use 500 times a day.
Yeah honestly, think about it. Seems like it would be completely unrealistic to gas a large number of pigs in a limited amount of time. Imagine someone places an order for something like 6 million of them? Seems impossible an unlikely.
Piggies are adorable and very smort, but piggies gotta die to make the bacon
What about pigless bacon grown from protein and fat?
that's not proper meat you fuckwit. Or bacon.
>proper
Doesn't need to be "proper" (whatever the fuck that means) if it's good.
>Doesn't need to be "proper"
for you
>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
Gassing the animal must fuck up the meat, no?
How common is this really though? Seems like a remarkably inefficient way to kill something on an industrial level.
It's efficient because you can stun a bunch of pigs at once. Put them in a cage, lower it into a pit of CO2 for 90 seconds until they're all unconscious or dead, then cut their throats.
terror makes it taste better
They should mark this meat with some kind of tag so I can make sure I'm only buying this.
Factory farming is inherently inhumane and killing an animal to eat i is inherently cruel, but as long as the processors aren't going full Joker mode and torturing the animals I really don't care. If I did care I'd buy from non-Muslim, non-Asian small scale producers and pay $30/lb for chicken but since I don't care I buy the cruel stuff for $1/lb at the store.
i disagree
don't care didn't ask plus your cis
>How can I make absolutely SURE that my pork didn't come from pigs who were suffocated in a gas chamber?
Don't eat pork.