How did potatoes become so integral to Irish cuisine, when potatoes are originally from Peru?

How did potatoes become so integral to Irish cuisine, when potatoes are originally from Peru? How did they become so dependent on a foreign substance that they starved over the potato famine. What did they eat before potatoes?

And why a re potatoes associated with Ireland when they're not even Irish in origin? Certain whiskeys and beers yes, but potatoes no.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    England was taking all their choice crops and livestock feudalism style, leaving them to survive on little more than the subsistence potato crop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They were initially regarded with suspicion and were often considered suitable only for animal feed. However, due to their hardiness, high nutritional value, and ability to grow in poor soil, potatoes gradually gained popularity across Europe, including in Ireland.

      In Ireland, potatoes became a staple crop because they were well-suited to the country's climate and soil conditions. They provided a reliable and plentiful source of food for the growing population, particularly for the rural poor. Potatoes were easy to cultivate, high-yielding, and provided essential nutrients, making them an ideal food for a population facing poverty and food insecurity.

      Before the widespread adoption of potatoes, the Irish diet was more varied but often lacked a reliable and abundant source of food. Staples included grains such as oats and barley, as well as dairy products, vegetables, and some meat, though the latter was often a luxury reserved for wealthier individuals.

      These, also the big famine AKA the Great Hunger was actually more of an invented disaster because the British landowners who owned most of the acres of arable soil in Ireland shipped the produce overseas even though the blight was killing off the reserves Irish farmers typically kept to feed themselves (Ireland was actually producing surpluses during the famine, it was just all exported out of country for profit):

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Potatoes are the best carb heavy side dish. Much better nutrients than grains. They also taste better and can be used in many more ways.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were initially regarded with suspicion and were often considered suitable only for animal feed. However, due to their hardiness, high nutritional value, and ability to grow in poor soil, potatoes gradually gained popularity across Europe, including in Ireland.

    In Ireland, potatoes became a staple crop because they were well-suited to the country's climate and soil conditions. They provided a reliable and plentiful source of food for the growing population, particularly for the rural poor. Potatoes were easy to cultivate, high-yielding, and provided essential nutrients, making them an ideal food for a population facing poverty and food insecurity.

    Before the widespread adoption of potatoes, the Irish diet was more varied but often lacked a reliable and abundant source of food. Staples included grains such as oats and barley, as well as dairy products, vegetables, and some meat, though the latter was often a luxury reserved for wealthier individuals.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much
      The irish were a bit unique in that they went all in on the potatoes, and that bit them in the ass when the blight hit. Don't really know why they did that - maybe potatoes were especially high yielding in ireland, or the irish just really destitute. Other areas with very poor populations like in eastern europe are also associated with potatoes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Other areas with very poor populations like in eastern europe are also associated with potatoes.
        Also Central or Northern European countries. Potatoes have nothing to do with income.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Central or Northern European countries
          Not to the same degree.
          >Potatoes have nothing to do with income
          They do in that you need to afford growing or buying food that isn't potatoes. That's what the irish that died in the famine couldn't, and most of the rest of europe could.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more of a growth thing I believe. It's hardy enough to survive in places with bad weather like in Scandinavia.
        I don't think Ireland is known for it's great weather either although it's not particularly cold either.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a question of relative yields. Potatoes grow in ireland and most of central/northern/eastern europe, but so do various grains, and the irish did grow those too, albeit for export. The question for a subsistence farmer is, can you afford to diversify by growing grain and not potatoes when the potato has higher yield. Subsistence farmers in most of europe didn't go in so heavy on the potatoes as the irish poor did.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more of a case that we were put in the position of being reliant on potatoes due to economic embargoes of the import of certain products that weren't abundant in Ireland unlike it's economically advantaged neighbours and having manufacturers export what would vary the diets of the poorest who eventually emigrated, essentially extracting wealth from peasants, workers and middle class consumers alike by inflation and taxing industry, which was a reaction from England in it's struggle with the rebellion in favour of home rule in the mid to late 19th century.

        We were essentially a breadbasket and a source of wealth extraction which resulted in the famine due to negligence.

        https://i.imgur.com/AlFcDc2.jpeg

        Just read some of the rubbish posted here.

        "England stole their food" , etc. etc. That NEVER happened!

        The Potato blight (a gift from the USA) affected most of Northern Europe and everybody suffered.

        It's trendy to blame the English (especially Plastic Paddies in the USA) but the English suffered too. Ireland was just TOO reliant on spuds, so it hit them hard, we did give them aid but like I said, everybody suffered.

        England did not suffer half as much and neither did their population shrink. The blame is mostly placed on government negligence after the fact, shirking responsibilities as custodians of an empire.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most important to mention was that lower quality potato seeds and were preferentially exported to Ireland because English workers moved from potatoes to bread as a source of energy. This is key to why the Irish famine was not an act of god, but an intentional victimisation for political and economic reasons.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >England did not suffer half as much and neither did their population shrink.
          It's the absolute state of scholarship among the Irish-American diaspora that they spend their time denying the suffering of others.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not denying anything. Just correcting the idea that England isn't culpable or deserving of criticism during the event because "they suffered too", only not as catastrophically.

            The state of Culinaly homeschooling and twitch debatelord logic is evident with you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody's going to account much for the suffering of an empire that tried to tax Indians for getting salt, a vital nutrient, from ocean water, a free natural resource (as well as a safe and legal repository for car batteries).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For as long as there have been c**ts in the world, there have been the Brits.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    brittain took literally all the other food of the island for their gay wars. once the blight hit the english gays still took all the other food

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Yet another genocidal British war crime perpetrated by their foreign/European fake royal family and certain motivated "investors".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't genocide. Genocide implies a concerted effort to kill a people; the English political class just didn't give a shit about the Irish one way or the other.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >stealing all their food wasn't a concerted effort
          ?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not to mention forcing the real Irish out of the relatively lush (profitable) regions into wastelands with the shittiest soil.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just read some of the rubbish posted here.

    "England stole their food" , etc. etc. That NEVER happened!

    The Potato blight (a gift from the USA) affected most of Northern Europe and everybody suffered.

    It's trendy to blame the English (especially Plastic Paddies in the USA) but the English suffered too. Ireland was just TOO reliant on spuds, so it hit them hard, we did give them aid but like I said, everybody suffered.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Pip pip cheerio we dindu nuffin innit?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much. Don't believe anything they say until "England for the English" means kicking out the so-called "Mountbattens".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Like I said, the Irish put all their eggs in one basket and suffered more as a result.

        The Irish are not the brightest of people, so this is not surprising but blaming others is just natural.

        Americans who claim they are Irish (Plastic Paddies) usually due to a great, great, grandmother who once visited Dublin, are the worst.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >blimey, the troubles for no reason at all!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The troubles were nothing to do with spuds, it's a bit more complicated than that.

            you get what you fricking deserve nigel. enjoy sharia

            Disregarded

            https://i.imgur.com/el7BYZ5.jpeg

            >oi, perfidious eire made us be comically hypocritical! we had no choice but to let the Irish starve while we appropriated the product of their labor for ourseves!

            >Phone post from an unknown internet site.
            Must be true!!!
            Also disregarded

            The Irish lead to their own problems by relying one food source, they were never that bright and they still aren't now.

            Even the Romans thought them not worth conquering, same as the Scots. they had nothing to offer and nothing to take.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              na se chontae. homosexual

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >na se chontae
                I don't speak dead languages like Latin, Esperanto or Irish.

                That's clearly wikipedia you moron. And "the irish" were under occupation and didn't get a choice on what happened to the locally grown food.

                One could claim that, had the subsistence farmers diversified their food sources more, they would have fared better. However their extreme poverty didn't allow for that without starving even under regular conditions. And that poverty was in part caused by the policies of the british occupants, who would also have had a duty to prevent a lethal famine irrespective of the reason their subjects were destitute. "They're too dumb to not starve" is not an argument.

                >That's clearly wikipedia
                I was right to disregard.

                >wikipedia, citing a publicly available letter by the man himself, is untrustworthy and disregarded

                >the oats being forcably exported under military escort don't exist, the Irish only grew potatoes

                teaboos are truly embarassing.
                no wonder you're being conquered by the 3rd world.

                >More Wikipedia references
                Yawn!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Disregarding wikipedia because it's wikipedia is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Disregarding wikipedia because it's wikipedia is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
                Yes. Pretty much.
                If you believe everything on this platform, then bigger fool you!
                I have no time for Gen Z rubbish.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Wikipedia isn't a source, teacher said!
                You're not writing for a school assignment, stop embarrassing yourself.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's clearly wikipedia you moron. And "the irish" were under occupation and didn't get a choice on what happened to the locally grown food.

              One could claim that, had the subsistence farmers diversified their food sources more, they would have fared better. However their extreme poverty didn't allow for that without starving even under regular conditions. And that poverty was in part caused by the policies of the british occupants, who would also have had a duty to prevent a lethal famine irrespective of the reason their subjects were destitute. "They're too dumb to not starve" is not an argument.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >wikipedia, citing a publicly available letter by the man himself, is untrustworthy and disregarded

              >the oats being forcably exported under military escort don't exist, the Irish only grew potatoes

              teaboos are truly embarassing.
              no wonder you're being conquered by the 3rd world.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you get what you fricking deserve nigel. enjoy sharia

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >oi, perfidious eire made us be comically hypocritical! we had no choice but to let the Irish starve while we appropriated the product of their labor for ourseves!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weird how also England was involved in famines in bengal and India but also THOSE were just bad luck too, according to 90% of English I’ve ever interacted with. You know what they say-same innit, different choosdae

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Plastic Paddies
          Wow, I wonder why immigration waves caused by Bongoloid atrocities might care about this issue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like I said, the Irish put all their eggs in one basket and suffered more as a result.

      The Irish are not the brightest of people, so this is not surprising but blaming others is just natural.

      Americans who claim they are Irish (Plastic Paddies) usually due to a great, great, grandmother who once visited Dublin, are the worst.

      The troubles were nothing to do with spuds, it's a bit more complicated than that.

      [...]
      Disregarded

      [...]
      >Phone post from an unknown internet site.
      Must be true!!!
      Also disregarded

      The Irish lead to their own problems by relying one food source, they were never that bright and they still aren't now.

      Even the Romans thought them not worth conquering, same as the Scots. they had nothing to offer and nothing to take.

      >na se chontae
      I don't speak dead languages like Latin, Esperanto or Irish.

      [...]
      >That's clearly wikipedia
      I was right to disregard.

      [...]
      >More Wikipedia references
      Yawn!

      Perfidious albion strikes again!

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what's cool is that tomatoes are another foodstuff from the columbian exchange.
    there were no tomatoes in italian cooking before they were brought back from america.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wow that's heckin awesome!!! upvoted :))

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just doing my part
        edit: thanks for the updoots

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Checked (quad dubs). Don't forget, Euros also introduced planking, and in return learned the Harlem Shake. That's why we celebrate Thanksgiving every month in perfect racial harmony.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The land with the most humans in it has the most human diseases
      Is there a point to mentioning this other than lazy racism?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. You'll notice they also conveniently left out malaria and syphilis coming the other way

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >live next to the ocean
    >Somehow starve
    Surely the fishing pole was invented

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didn't you know everyone on Culinaly is from boston and really cares about this stuff

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact you don’t know this is striking. Ireland has a lot of stoney soil—which is poor for growing most crops. Potatoes however are quite fine with growing in such soil. Making it an ideal crop in Ireland

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does contemporary Ireland use English when they have their own language & culture, and they've made it abundantly clear that they are different from England? Everybody speaks English, the signs are in English, and I wouldn't even doubt it if official government documents are in English.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Much has been said, but it should also be mentioned that most Irish were tenant farmers. They rented a plot of land with which they grew food to feed themselves. Potatoes required the smallest amount of land to feed one person, and so when thet became available the landlords(mostly English) gradually reduced the size of the plots they were renting until the only possible crop the poor tenant farmers could sustain themselves with was the potato. There was simply not enough space on these plots to grow anything else and still get the necessary calories to avoid starvation. Generally they worked for their landlord producing cash crops and then tended their own plot to feed themselves.

    One of the things the English changed after that was that the minimum plot sizes were increased so that such a monocrop failure wouldn't be inevitable.

    There were five key factors that caused the Famine or exacerbated it
    >potato blight
    >plots too small to pivot to wheat or another crop for next harvest
    >The English abandoning their early attempts to manage the famine with soup kitchens
    >The English refusing to stop exporting food from Ireland
    >The English changing their laws in response to the famine(with genuinely good intentions) inadvertently caused Irish landlords to gain a method to reenact the highland clearances and use the new laws to evict tenant farmers and leave them to die.

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