How do you feel about raw milk?

I went over to my boddy's house and I was talking to his wife, a newly minted dietitian, about meal plan ideas. She asked if I would consider switching from whole milk for planning purposes, and I quipped "only to switch to raw milk" and she got instantly militant about "NO RAW MILK!" and bacteria and eyeball death and gut destruction and how she saw the data and decided that raw milk is 'le bad' etc. I let her vent - I don't care about raw milk one way or the other and I figure if ten thousand years of Europeans drank raw milk without dying en masse all the way to my grandfathers' time in the 40s, it can't be the Creamy White Devil it's made out to be. What say you?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eyeball death

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eyeball death
      she was going off so hard about bacteria and shit that all I remember was something about things getting into your eyes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You sound the exact kind of homosexual who loves drinking creamy white stuff

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go be a israelite somewhere else

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up, Muhammed Al-Habibi

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he in ha mood

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go suck dick somewhere else

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your grandparents had immunity to the bacteria of raw milk, because their mothers had immunity the bacteria - you have no such immunity and are thus at risk of sickness and shitting

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the same thing with eating beef. A steak isn't much of a risk even if you eat it raw. Ground beef made from a bunch of different cows mixed together means it only takes one being sick or contaminated to spoil the whole batch. Getting raw milk from a single cow that's kept clean and healthy is fine. Mixing it from a bunch of different cows can be risky.

    It's not so much that animal products are inherently dangerous, it's the processing methods that don't keep things clean. Wild animal products are more likely to contain parasites though and those are always a bit riskier.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as you boil it there is no problem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do farmers who sell raw milk boil theirs, and wouldn't that be considered pasteurized at that point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Di8bf9J.jpeg

        I used to live in a small village as a kid and we always boiled our milk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People boiled their milk historically anon
        It makes it last longer
        They only drank it straight when it was freshly milked

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You lie like a israelite.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why have you made 3 active threads on Culinaly about raw milk?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Inbred ashkenazi schizophrenic paranoid about a milk thread

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How does it feel to have israelites living in your head rent free?
            Every cattle-rearing civilization boiled their milk because they wouldn't have finished those buckets of milk within a day.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They would often make cheese or yogurt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. It works with anything. People always go on about how dangerous raw chicken is, but I have it all the time with no problems. You just cook it first.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >feel
    leave.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There’s a Flannery O’Connor story where a guy get horribly ill drinking raw milk. People will complain about Indian food being unsanitary and then guzzle raw milk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, so many people do this. I hear and see this with people i meet constantly. Big problem in society.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you know why pasteurization was mandated? Because factory farming was putting cows into unsanitary, inhumane/torturous conditions that fostered the spread of bacteria. And even if only one cow's milk was dangerous, it was mixed en masse with the milk of hundreds if not thousands of other cows. So whats the solution? Just boil it to kill the bacteria, then you dont have to worry about the pus from the cows infected udders or cross-contamination with feces anymore.
    Your chances of getting sick from raw milk today are extremely low because the farmers are selling the product to granola hippies and have every incentive to keep their cows and their milk healthy & clean and mix their milk in small batches.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trusting farm wagies
      ngmi

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably the only intelligent thread in this post

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      quality, anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because the farmers are selling the product to granola hippies
      You might be surprised. I've been to small farms like you describe, where every single part of the farm and milking operation is visible and the owners are perfectly happy to give you an hour long tour to explain the extreme lengths they go to ensure animal health and prevent milk contamination. But then, I've also been to larger farms where it seems like they just started selling raw milk after learning they could charge a bit extra for it, and the hygiene seems more doubtful.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's great, but not as great as raw water. Straight from the Ganges. Good morning sirs

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I reckon it's one of those things that require you build the right kind of gut biome to compensate for potential contaminants. If you're a city slicker what never had raw milk and suddenly you start suckling on a cow titty, you may get sick. I wonder, does making raw milk into cheese help city slickers? I had a TON of raw milk cheese when I visited family in Mexico and didn't get sick despite only drinking hyper processed American dairy my entire life. I did drink a glass of milk with my concha, but I don't remember if it was pasteurized or not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If you're a city slicker what never had raw milk and suddenly you start suckling on a cow titty, you may get sick.

      I dunno, I drink a few pints of pasteurized milk a week but when I go to visit my parents in the countryside every few months they always get me some raw milk from the farmer down the road. I've never noticed a difference in my health from the switch. It tastes great though.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was a kid I drank raw milk every summer for years , spending the vacacion at my granpa's house. The farm and stable was literally next door. Never been sick from it. If it kills you it's deserved from being so fricking weak.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People here seem to be under the impression that pasteurization was invented for fun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      techniques and technology continue to improve and what makes sense or is best can change or even appear to move backwards depending

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s a nice way of saying nothing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          things happen and sometimes they don't happen and people try things and sometimes they don't try things depending

          You're both moronic. Sanitation techniques and standards have improved and made raw milk less risky than it was in the past. Is this also too hard? Should I write in crayon for you?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes please.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        things happen and sometimes they don't happen and people try things and sometimes they don't try things depending

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I buy it from time to time because it comes in a glass bottle. Usually, I get regular. Tell her that there's a guy on a heavy dose of immunosuppressants ( 3 GRAMS per day, not milligrams) because lupus who drinks raw milk from time to time and is just fine.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get the meme around it. The amount of supposed extra calcium and protein you might get you can achieve with more pasteurized milk or other items. I do buy raw milk from the nearby farmers sometimes, but boiling it is part of the fun. It definitely tastes better than store bought, but it has to be consumed in 1-2 days max. You get a nice cream from it to add to coffee and such.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some people say they have trouble digesting pasteurized milk but not raw milk because raw milk contains live bacteria and enzymes that aid in digestion. That's why raw milk turns into yogurt but pasteurized milk just rots.

      I've seen various other arguments that pasteurizing milk makes it less healthy but I'm not sure how much that really matters.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imagine if they one day learn of lactase pills
        they would feel pretty silly then having been drinking bacteria milk

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pills shouldn't be the answer to everything

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kefir is though
            I had friends whose parents were lactose intolerant, but they could consume milk without issues as long as they cut a quarter of it with milk kefir

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That makes sense. Kefir, yogurt, buttermilk, etc. as long as it's not pasteurized contains bacteria that helps break down lactose and it's been shown they survive going through the stomach.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why not eat yogurt instead then?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've had it many times and had no problems despite a history of many gut and immune issues. I'll just leave this quote I found here
    >"Doctor Sutherland says: 'Efficient pasteurization will enable us to drink with impunity the milk of diseased cows, but it will do nothing to make cows healthier. Indeed, if pasteurization be compulsory, there will be less incentive to produce clean or T.T. milk"

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro went to his boddy's house

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't trust raw milk unless I personally knew the farmer and bought it directly from him the same day it was produced. So much can go wrong during transport. Imagine some Mexican driver making 12 cents per mile hauling milk accidentally switches the refrigeration off in the truck for an hour and your raw milk becomes poison and you'd never know.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Αnonymous

      >your raw milk becomes poison and you'd never know.
      I think you'd know from the smell before you even tasted it, but then again, my dad insists on consuming moldy curdled liquid creamer, insisting it's fresh, when one whiff of it makes me puke.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm not some pinko commie about to force you do drink something else, but all the science says that pasteurization is safer. raw milk was only useful when processed in the past, like when it was included in baked goods or fermented.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the israelites tell me not to do something I try to do it. So I drink raw milk

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Local Amish sell raw milk. Bought some once, tasted like grassy cow burps and made me gag. Threw the rest out.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are correct, but modern society is not made for strong white European men but the lowest common denominator, think of a weak inbred indian or arab woman. Plenty of places in Europe have raw milk but it's from dairies with stringent hygiene rules, all the "raw milk" data comes from raw milk produced by JBS feedlot looking shitholes where the milk is going to be boiled, powdered and reconstituted anyway so of course it's not fit to drink raw.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well if you get your raw milk from a good farm it's no problem, but one thing ten thousand years of Europeans did not have was factory farming with 500 cows squeezed into 500 sqft rampant with diseases and the only thing stopping all the cows from bursting with puss being a daily shot of antibiotics, so yeah I would be careful with raw milk, do your research on what farm it comes from, also most people who have drunk raw milk through out history lived a bare minimum of a mile from the cows who made it not two states over

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A friend of mine switched to raw milk years ago and became a homosexual. You seem to already be one so go for it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason to cook your milk is for a banging Milo or hot choc

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    safer than sucking on an aids dick

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