Idk anymore. Is the only real healthy food beef ? Or even raw beef

Idk anymore
Is the only real healthy food beef ? Or even raw beef
I've been on the emlimation diet and every time I add back dairy, veggies, and fruits, nuts, legumes, grains or sugars I feel sick
Fish is iffy, mercury and pollution
Chicken and pork is supar
Look at this shit 11 servings of FRICKING BREAD!!! Wake the frick up sheeple

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too much protein can put strain on your kidneys, and they don't recover. It's true, my cousin did a paleo-type diet where he ate like 85% meat and animal fat, then the other 15% was nutrient-dense fruits and nuts. After 3 years, his doctor said he had acute renal dysfunction and needed to change his diet.
    Just something to keep in mind.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can't eat shit because you stopped eating shit and now you no longer have the gut bacteria to digest shit
    Congratulations, you gamed yourself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's right, it's

      https://i.imgur.com/wGf6JvD.jpg

      Idk anymore
      Is the only real healthy food beef ? Or even raw beef
      I've been on the emlimation diet and every time I add back dairy, veggies, and fruits, nuts, legumes, grains or sugars I feel sick
      Fish is iffy, mercury and pollution
      Chicken and pork is supar
      Look at this shit 11 servings of FRICKING BREAD!!! Wake the frick up sheeple

      fault. "oooh, I don't want to eat this makes me feel sick! yuck" swallow and shut it

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    6-11 means you could have 2 pieces of whole grain bread with breakfast lunch and dinner and fall within the guidelines. That's not an insane amount.

    Anyway, you have to slowly add foods back into your diet and let your body readjust. If you only eat one thing for a while then suddenly eat a lot of something else your body won't be ready for it. If you literally feel sick with everything except beef there's something else going on, it doesn't mean literally every other food is bad.

    What happens when you eat other foods? Just an upset stomach?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    try all stuff and then
    just eat what you feel like bro
    traditional dishes are good,

    my meals usually have carbohydrates in form of bread or noodles or potato mixed and then often a lot of protein and fat too. like meat or cheese or eggs. i try to round it well with something green from time to time or like vegetables like carrots or cabbage or similar stuff.
    I prefer saturated fats like coconut oil or animal fat or butter over unsaturated fats.
    Sometimes I eat fruits if I feel like it like once or twice a year.
    I also like high cacao chocolates and sometimes I eat gummi bear.
    I mainly eat pork as meat because its cheaper than beef and it tastes good too. but when I eat beef and chicken too some time.
    Fish most rarely.

    so if one day i feel like spinach looks nice I eat 3 pounds of spinach with eggs. If I want meat, I eat more meat.
    I eat my stuff mostly cooked. but i don't shy away from raw minced meat f.e.
    eggs always cooked because raw egg white is evil.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People have different biologies and food preferences.
    I tried carnivore and felt mostly normal, besides having watery shits and hot flashes. Others have told me that they feel sickly unless they eat carnivore, and I know another friend that is allergic to beef and chicken, along with lots of other stuff.

    Experiment with your diet and find what is right for you. If you really can't eat pretty normal stuff like veggies, dairy, druit, grains, etc. then you might have a pretty big disorder. You might also just not be giving your body and gut bacteria a fair shot at adapting to dietary changes.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is the only real healthy food beef?
    Pretty much. Everyone else in this thread is addicted to carbohydrates and can't imagine life without them.
    I miss bread too sometimes. That normally happens if I've been working and haven't bothered to eat for somewhere near 24 hours.
    Keep on the diet if it makes you feel healthy. I still like to eat eggs and dairy.
    Adding vinegar helps liven food up. Make a pan sauce with a little. I'm going to try making carnivore mayo with egg yolk, vinegar, water and melted butter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone else in this thread is addicted to carbohydrates and can't imagine life without them.
      frick off
      I wrote this

      try all stuff and then
      just eat what you feel like bro
      traditional dishes are good,

      my meals usually have carbohydrates in form of bread or noodles or potato mixed and then often a lot of protein and fat too. like meat or cheese or eggs. i try to round it well with something green from time to time or like vegetables like carrots or cabbage or similar stuff.
      I prefer saturated fats like coconut oil or animal fat or butter over unsaturated fats.
      Sometimes I eat fruits if I feel like it like once or twice a year.
      I also like high cacao chocolates and sometimes I eat gummi bear.
      I mainly eat pork as meat because its cheaper than beef and it tastes good too. but when I eat beef and chicken too some time.
      Fish most rarely.

      so if one day i feel like spinach looks nice I eat 3 pounds of spinach with eggs. If I want meat, I eat more meat.
      I eat my stuff mostly cooked. but i don't shy away from raw minced meat f.e.
      eggs always cooked because raw egg white is evil.

      and I was raw meat carnivore for a year frick off "addicted to carbohydrates".
      you are addicted to air homosexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone else in this thread is addicted to carbohydrates and can't imagine life without them.
      >I miss bread too sometimes.
      Bread isn't the only form of carbs. Modern refined carbs consumed in huge quantities are definitely bad for you. I've never really seen any proof that the carbs in milk or fruit or honey or vegetables were bad for you though. That argument always ends up coming from people who only recently realized how much refined carbs are in everything they eat and they start demonizing all carbs.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should be eating meat and fruit; that's it. Fruit makes you feel bad because you've probably been on some moronic keto shit that's fricked up your digestion. All fruit is not equal - you should aim to eat mostly tropical fruits.

    Fructose metabolism is adaptive. Start by adding small amounts of juice and work your way up as your body adjusts. Fruit should be the majority of your caloric intake with just enough meat to satisfy your protein needs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of fruits ? specifically
      What are the 3 most healthiest and nutrient dense ones ?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He said tropical fruits, but I'll say eat the fruits that naturally grow in your area. In my case, that's apples, pears, peaches and gourds. They are among the healthiest. I'd say don't worry about which fruit you're eating. Bananas are the highest sugar fruit so avoid those if you have bad carb spikes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So basically only eat half & half raw beef / cooked beef and apples, peaches, pears, and blueberries
          Sounds based

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Look at this shit 11 servings of FRICKING BREAD!!
    >OMG, my israeli keto shills told me that's bad!!!

    Yeah, that's what the longest living people in the world ate the most of. Sorry you fell for an internet meme.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >disingenuous WW2 snapshot
      shalome

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we evolved to eat bread about as much as we evolved to eat masses of meat, we didn't, eat your fruit and veg idiots

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we evolved to eat masses of meat
      we literally did
      we are only what we are because of meat, our entire body plan changed to make us better at acquiring meat
      this idea of having readily available produce at all times is ridiculous, your big juicy sweet fruits and vegetables aren't something that exist in nature

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >our entire body plan changed to make us better at acquiring meat
        This doesn't make sense. That person isn't talking about fish, they're talking about birds and large mammals like cows, pigs and sheep. It used to be absolutely unheard of to eat these things, never mind daily, and the thought of a human trying to catch a bird or cow for itself is hilarious. The human body is not endowed with the ability to acquire meat aside from fish, and yes fruits and vegetables did always exist, and they used to be much more abundant before 90% of the earth's trees and greenery were cut down to build buildings

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the hell are you talking about dumbfrick?
          Our shoulders and hands literally evolved to throw rocks and spears at large ruminant animals. And where the frick are you getting the idea a human would hunt by itself? We are pack hunters frickwit.
          >hurr durr a wolf couldn't hunt anytime by itself
          Fruit and vegetables obviously didn't exist anywhere near to the extend they do today even adjusted to human population. There weren't endless acres of apple trees waiting to be picked. There would be one in a field with a large amount of apples for one month a year and then nothing the rest of the time.
          You need to get past this moronic box where you think human history ends 10,000 years ago and anything before agriculture didn't exist.
          Have a look at what fruits and vegetables looked like before selective breeding.
          You have to be seriously dumb to think humans 200,000 years ago would get any serious amount of nutrition from wild berries that were only around for a couple of months a year.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That guy is moronic. Berries might have been their primary diet when the berries were ripe but hominids with a varied diet were much more successful than strict herbavores. Our ability to communicate and sweat immediately gave us advantages. Tool use gave us an even bigger advantage. Plus isotope composition analysis has proven that homosexual Sapiens have pretty much always been omnivores

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >throw rocks and spears at large ruminant animals.
            LMAO imagine some ketotard trying to lift up a rock big and heavy enough to kill a cow and throw it at it from a distance only to fall short and slip on his fat ass and the cow just looks bewildered and runs away. And even if that rock did hit the cow, it wouldn't kill it.
            >And where the frick are you getting the idea a human would hunt by itself? We are pack hunters frickwit.
            Oh really? Here's a fact dumbass: NO animal's diet revolves around something it can't get alone, even if some are pack hunters. Example: Lions pack hunt to take down zebras, but a single lionness can take one down easily. Humans are designed to be primarily FRUIT eaters. Any meat we got in the past was FISH, and red meat was extremely rare to come by.
            >rest of the post
            Sub 20 IQ reddit-tier. Please go back to r/keto.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Holy shit your info is at least 50 years out of date. You're gonna need to cite some sources

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Any meat we got in the past was FISH, and red meat was extremely rare to come by
              fish consumption is recent. most of our evolutionary history for 2 millions years was ruminant meat

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Primates did evolve from frugivores but most hominids weren't primarily frugivores and homosexual Sapiens definitely weren't. Our intestines would be miniscule if we were supposed to be frugivores and we certainly wouldn't have the need to develop a highly acidic stomach

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          everything about our upright bipedalism, the shape of our feet, the structure of our shoulders (we're the only apes that can throw overhanded), our ability to plan, coordinate, and think abstractly
          this is all a result of adopting a meat based lifestyle, all these changes were to make us better hunters
          everything has a cost and this brain of ours took the lions share of resources in our evolutionary path. You don't invest the calories into something that isn't paying for itself and you don't cultivate and intelligence like we have by picking dandelions and berries
          it was created by eating meat with the sole purpose of acquiring more meat

          a human catching a cow is no more ridiculous than a lone coyote catching a cow. That's why we operate in packs just like they do
          and just like they do it's a persistence hunt, we will chase our prey for miles and harass it until it collapses from exhaustion

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lmao in fact the hunting style that humans and canines both developed were so similar we started doing it cooperatively with each other lol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wait until some moron tries to tell you canines started cooperating with humans to get access to our vegetables.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and just like they do it's a persistence hunt, we will chase our prey for miles and harass it until it collapses from exhaustion
            >the "persistence hunting" meme
            Humans' ability to walk great distances does not translate to "persistence hunting". We are nomadic and are supposed to be constantly traversing land. Not to mention that most animals humans would be hunting are much faster and more enduring than humans and we would be the ones tiring easily. If we were lucky we would catch an old, sick and lame animal that tires easily, but since humans aren't carnivores we see those animals as "disgusting" and "diseased" rather than prey for the picking like actual carnivores do.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >We are nomadic and are supposed to be constantly traversing land
              hmm, I wonder what we were following? must've been those herds of sweet potatoes as they migrated their way across the countryside in search of fresh pastures

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        everything the other poster said plus we're opportunistic scavengers not carnivores, meat made up a small part of our diet historically
        >idea of having readily available produce at all times
        things do have seasons
        >your big juicy sweet fruits and vegetables
        didn't say anything about them being big and juicy, and I don't advocate for eating only the most sugar filled fruit and veg, just eating mangoes and potatoes is probably not great
        I don't want to argue too much on the grounds of nature though, we didn't have vitamin supplements either, I'm more just arguing that masses of meat is not normal or some kind of back to nature diet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't eaten a fruit in like ten years and I'm fine. What kind of adult man eats fruit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An adult man that isn't insecure. An adult man that knows fruits provide healthy carbs. An adult man that knows fruits can increase the absorption of some vitamins and minerals. An adult man that can adult a man to adult man the man.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          insecure about what
          why do people just throw words out for no reason

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bread is good for you and tastes yummy with butter or cream cheese
    Stop being gays about your diet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some bread's alright
      some bread is poison

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what purpose does fat serve as a macronutrient?

    protein
    >only useful macro
    >needed for building muscle

    carbs
    >gives immediate energy
    >allows you to exert yourself much more during exercise, which means more calories burned overall, and more muscle built

    fats
    >????

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do they not teach basic nutrition anymore? It regulates all sorts of shit like vitamin intake, hormones and is essential for cellular health

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's micronutrients tho, not macros

        This is like questioning if air or water is more important in an attempt to skip the other forever.

        and btw. fat is nice because of fat solvable vitamins

        micros not macros

        yes everyone needs fats to survive but you only need a very small amount to meet the micronutrients needs
        what purpose does it serve to be more than 5% of your daily intake in calories?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know bro I don't eat according to soyence calculations of percentages of macro nutrients.
          But what I know is everything tends to taste better with a little fat.
          That's why people love cheese in and on everything and pork belly (bacon), that is why people love gravy and avocado, that's why people fry stuff.

          Just eat pork belly(bacon), and tell me how it is a shit macro nutrient the second you taste that soft and gentle taste of the pork fat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is like questioning if air or water is more important in an attempt to skip the other forever.

      and btw. fat is nice because of fat solvable vitamins

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Real conditions of the human body:
      >Insulin resistance (fat poisoning - RESISTING insulin)
      >Protein poisoning
      To me it's obvious fat and protein are detrimental to the human body, or else the body wouldn't react so badly to these things in huge quantities
      >inb4 the body reacts to sugar badly
      It doesn't if you don't eat fatty food. Fat consumption creates insulin RESISTANCE.
      What's essential to the human body:
      >Blood SUGAR

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wow, everything you're saying is the opposite of the truth
        fat is required for hormone synthesis and vitamin absorption
        it's carbohydrates that serve no actual purpose in the body. That's why they give such quick bursts of energy, your body doesn't need them so it can spend them right away on atp instead of maintaining biological functions like proteins and lipids need to

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          carbs are very useful, much more than fats to the bidy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            stop eating fats, see how long it takes before you start to get sores on your skin

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              stop eating carbs and see how well you can do your workouts and exercise

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's carbohydrates that serve no actual purpose in the body.
          our body literally stores carbs in our muscles for energy. people on keto often say they struggle with workouts due to a lack of carbs.

          if you ate most of your meat raw you'd still be getting plenty of carbs. apparently the inuit consume a lot more carbs than anyone realized because they eat so much of their meat raw, and they consume more than enough to not go into ketosis.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why isn't fat resistance a disease that impairs the body's ability to function while resistance to carbohydrates is?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i eat food that tastes good.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in prehistory we evolved to basically only eat meat and that's why we have loads of big sharp conical teeth for tearing raw meat like other carnivores oh wait no we have four small canines

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sharp teeth are for killing prey not for tearing raw meat. we created sharp pointy sticks you moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they're for both, the large piercing canines are for killing obviously, but the rest are also jagged, and also we have basically the same teeth as we did before we started using pointy sticks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually we have smaller teeth since we started using sharp rocks to cut up meat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            basically the same, not exactly the same, you can look at at a homosexual erectus skull and it's not like a carnivores
            our jaws have gotten smaller too, yet we're still cursed with wisdom teeth

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Like 35 percent of humans now don't have any wisdom teeth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I heard about some people not having them but that's a big percent, cool

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty wild shit. Genetic mutation and evolution in action.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it doesn't make that much sense to me I'll have to read about it, are we selecting for people that don't have wisdom teeth? they can frick people's mouths up but enough to reduce your chance of breeding that much?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean it could be the product of just more people in general surviving in the past with reduced or minimal wisdom teeth as our jaws shank. Dental issues are a b***h. I'm sure the number of people in history that died from impacted wisdom teeth isn't small

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh I was thinking it was a much more recent increase, that would make sense though, mine would probably have killed me in the 18th century

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I consumed a lot of meat and milk growing up. My wisdom teeth came in with no issue and I'm 6'1. The curse is lack of nutrition causing improper jaw development.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your post offends a lot of meat eating birds.
      Sure humans do not have big canines but what humans have a very big and very scary brains and very scary hands with very scary thumbs.
      It enables humans to build pointy sticks and other stuff to hunt or trap all other creatures for our nutrient needs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        which birds? because the ones that rip chunks out of animals tends to have sharp beaks
        as for brains we probably need to pick the time period we're talking about because the big scary brains seem more like they came from an increase in meat consumption rather than the precursor to it
        also this all depends on we mean when we talk about a mainly meat diet, nobody here is saying humans only ate meat or only are plants, originally I think this was about whether a diet that is overwhelmingly meat or something like the lion diet is a back to nature deal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My point is some creatures have large canines others have sharp beaks and claws, yet others again have poison fangs.
          Well the human creature has brain which enables it to use pointy sticks and sharp rocks or to crack open skulls.

          It doesn't matter if it was a precursor or not.
          I mean it is like asking if a lion developed sharp teeth by eating meat or did have sharp teeth before eating meat.
          I don't know whats the point of this speculation.

          Facts are at some point humans were able to hunt and trap other animals for nutritional use, because of big brains hand superior hands.
          The additional food source obviously offered an advantage and made brain go brrrrr, so we developed better methods for aquiring even more meat.
          > mainly meat diet,
          What does "mainly meat diet" mean. I don't know. I tried keto and carnivore diets but I found doing better adding back more carbs and vegetables.

          I think most natural diet is that which serves our nutritional needs best, so if I want to eat spinach I do that and if I want to eat 2 pounds of beef I just do that too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >sharp beaks and claws
            we don't really have any of that though, and the things we're most comparable to are mammals so the further we get from that the more different we might expect carnivorous animals to be
            >like asking if a lion developed sharp teeth by eating meat or did have sharp teeth before eating meat
            kind of but since we're talking about diets and evolving it's relevant that there's an evolved feature of humans that is (probably) directly related to an increase in meat consumption, it's a less direct relationship than getting sharper teeth to eat meat better, eating meat gave us bigger brains that meant we could do more including hunt better
            I guess somebody should have defined what mainly meat means earlier because idk

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know what the original point was.
              I think it was if eating meat is natural to humans.

              Maybe the categorization of creatures into carnivores omnivores and herbivores maybe is faulty and artificial.

              I would simplify it:
              The hard biological fact is that human can use meat as a food source, because human can digest it, and it is beneficial for humans to do just that, so it is natural for us to do just that.

              So my conclusion is that is natural for humans to eat meat, just like it is natural for humans to tame plants to get more beneficial and digestible stuff out of them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                theres an asymmetry. you can live just fine eating no plants but eating no animal products poses nutritional risks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My point is getting away from "only eating this and that" because of intellectual constructs.

                I think it is better to view it this way:
                Appetite and taste tells you what you need and you eat accordingly.

                >you can live just fine eating no plants but eating no animal products poses nutritional risks
                I can't judge that conclusively. Maybe if you eat your own shit on a plant diet like rabbits do you can live off it.

                I agree however that meat tends to be more nutritious than plants, but I want to mention also that for me it is easier to get fat with starch than to get fat on meat only.
                I don't view fat as necessarily bad, liver turns excess carbohydrates into fat and fat is nice to have in winter. Look f.e. at bears.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Look f.e. at bears.
                Bears typically want to get fat on salmon. If the salmon are abundant enough, they only eat the fattiest parts. Bears will get fat on berries if they have to, but those bears were pushed away from the salmon by other bears.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I didn't know that.

                I did carnivore for a year and it was nice. But I think some plant foods are also nice, so I switched back to omnivore or regular cooked food.

                I think that unfortunately not everyone can afford to eat solely meat or mainly meat.
                You gotta do what your budget allows, so just like those berries bear, if you can't get fat on salmon fat you do the next best thing which is to get fat on something else.

                Starches are much cheaper per calorie.
                So I think it is okay to get fat on starches if your budget is limited or if you just want to eat them from time to time.
                But I do agree that meat and other animal products have special importance for human nutrition.
                I eat around 2-6 pounds of meat per week, according to my appetite.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/01/grizzly-bear-california-carnivore-meat-eating/677070/

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should only eat the tasty wheat goo in the matrix

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >emlimation diet
    this is a proven way to allow your body to stop producing the enzymes to digest milk, and thus, a self-fulfilling prophecy to state you're intolerant.

    Take pre and probiotics on the regular as you try to become normal, and eat sensible portions at each meal, and leave the food groups alone. You should continue to eat all 4 food groups as you were taught, and whatever # servings of grains is fine. A serving is actually quite small.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The idea that you need to eat lots of protein for your body to "rebuild itself" seems ridiculous to me. Raw milk is around 5% fat, and a dairy cow produces around 28L per day. That means a dairy cow puts out 1.4kg of fat per day through its udders. All dairy cows eat is fricking plants. Are you telling me those plants contains all that fat? Living organisms are VERY good at breaking down the things they eat and synthesizing the things they need. You don't need to eat protein for your body to have access to more than enough of it. Don't take fitness advice from gearheads.

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