Is carnivore diet a fricking psy op ? They say that vegetables and fruits are unhealthy and only eat 100% meat/beef

Is carnivore diet a fricking psy op ?
They say that vegetables and fruits are unhealthy and only eat 100% meat/beef
What the actual frick ???????????????

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a fad, not a psyop. Eet ze bugz is a psyop.

    It's also stupid, primarily because most people won't eat organ meat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this,

      https://i.imgur.com/twrGtRn.jpg

      Is carnivore diet a fricking psy op ?
      They say that vegetables and fruits are unhealthy and only eat 100% meat/beef
      What the actual frick ???????????????

      vegetables are primarily healthy for the polyphenals and flavnoids and other balancing chemcials. not their raw nutritional content.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >polyphenals and flavnoids and other balancing chemcials
        Total junk science. There has never been any scientific proof that polyphenols are a necessary or beneficial part of the average person's diet.
        There are non-replicable studies that suggest correlations between specific polyphenol consumption, but then you might as well shell out your cash for alternative medicine, because the supplement industry loves to sell this type of shit.

        We eat too much meat and we should all aim to eat less to almost none (once a week max).

        We eat too little meat, actually.
        Hong Kong has one of the highest meat consumption rates in the world, and also holds the record for highest longevity.
        There is an entire "paradox" named after this, the "French paradox", because French people don't suffer from cardio-vascular disease, despite eating a lot of meat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >m-muh science
          moron.
          >studies
          double moron
          I see carnivores eat plants, simple as. white papers just explain why.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not the guy you're replying to, but are you seriously anti-science? that is pretty sad if you are, tbh. do you understand that the process of science is underpinned by the same type of scepticism that is present in your post? Are you opposed to people citing sources that refer to scientific studies? Are you against the idea of using science as a means of authority/control? Do you believe that there is a community of scientists working for some nefarious overlords with the implicit purpose of controlling the masses for some financial reason? I'm genuinely curious if you have a response to this, or if you have even thought deeply about this topic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >We eat too little meat, actually.
          >Hong Kong has one of the highest meat consumption rates in the world, and also holds the record for highest longevity.
          >There is an entire "paradox" named after this, the "French paradox", because French people don't suffer from cardio-vascular disease, despite eating a lot of meat.
          I don't like these cherry picked cases which are not statistically significant. I could mention Sardinia and Okinawa which share the record for male longevity; their centenaries both have diets that are pretty poor in meat. The health aspect is also not the only factor to consider when we talk about meat consumption.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > I could mention Sardinia and Okinawa which share the record for male longevity; their centenaries both have diets that are pretty poor in meat.
            Yes, because you don't know the full history of it.

            Okinawan diets were heavy on meat (if you include fish) before WW2 and after post-WW2 recovery period.
            They were observed during the post-WW2 recovery period, when all of their fisheries had already been destroyed and their livestock plundered.
            The region has suffered from demographic-wide starvation and had to rely almost exclusively on sweet potatoes to fill their caloric needs.

            It's much more likely that they lived long lives due to decreased caloric intake, which seems to be consistent with animal tests and the stereotypical small and slim stature of the average asian person.

            There are other problems with Okinawans, such as the census for confirmation of these people's ages is being largely confined by anecdotes.
            That's because their only way to validate their ages was destroyed during the wars.
            Read more of it up here: https://www.demographic-research.org/volumes/vol25/7/25-7.pdf

            Yeah. As much as self-proclaimed carnivores like to pretend this isn't the case, meat is naturally expensive in terms of energy expenditure and humans' natural diet consists of mostly fruits, vegetables, and mushrooms with some meat.
            There are exceptions like the Inuit, but the average person in a hunter-gatherer society got between 50 and 70 percent of their nutrition from plants.
            The only reason we can afford to eat massive amounts of meat now is because the government props up the meat industry in order to benefit those who grow corn and profit from the animal feed. Even if you go back just to the 1950s, you'd only eat a large amount of meat on special occasions (this is why Thanksgiving turkey and Christmas ham or turkey used to be a big deal).

            >meat is naturally expensive in terms of energy expenditure
            That's not true. The amount of energy that the average lion, for example, expends during a hunt is surprisingly low, up until they sprint for a few seconds.
            Most of it is just walking and stalking.
            >the average person in a hunter-gatherer society got between 50 and 70 percent of their nutrition from plants.
            Any sources for that? How would you even get so many calories, pre-agriculture?
            >Even if you go back just to the 1950s, you'd only eat a large amount of meat on special occasions
            Yeah, because we live in extremely populated environements, whereas in nature, you would be travelling around to find ruminants that are easy to hunt and catch with groups of people, ideally your family and another family.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >if you include fish
              no, I don't. Btw my point wasn't that
              >but muh *very specific population in a very specific span of time* had great longevity AND they consumed a lot/ not a lot of meat!
              but to show how these cherry picked cases are hardly statistically significant as they include a lot of confounding factors

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not the OP, but the info on hunter gatherer diets has been discussed in academic journal before

              >Hayden (3) stated that hunter-gatherers such as the !Kung might live in conditions close to the “ideal” hunting and gathering environment. What do the !Kung eat? Animal foods are estimated to contribute 33% and plant foods 67% of their daily energy intakes (1). Fifty percent (by wt) of their plant-based diet comes from the mongongo nut, which is available throughout the year in massive quantities (1). Similarly, the hunter-gatherer Hazda of Tanzania consume “the bulk of their diet” as wild plants, although they live in an area with an exceptional abundance of game animals and refer to themselves as hunters
              >Australian aborigines in some locales are known to have relied seasonally on seeds of native millet (2) or a few wild fruit and seed species (20) to satisfy daily energy demands. Some hunter-gatherer societies in Papua New Guinea relied heavily on starch from wild sago palms as an important source of energy (21), whereas most hunter-gatherer societies in California depended heavily on acorn foods from wild oaks (22).

              >Although agriculture is relatively recent, most hunter-gatherer societies appear to have enthusiastically embraced it. For example, since well before the time of Columbus, tropical rain forests of South America have been inhabited not by hunter-gatherers but by hunter-gatherer-agriculturalists, small societies practicing shifting cultivation whose main crop was likely a single starchy carbohydrate. Contemporary ethnographers working in Amazonia noted that even when smoke racks are filled with game, if the carbohydrate staple becomes exhausted, the inhabitants say they have no food.

              https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(23)07053-3/fulltext

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >on hunter gatherer diets has been discussed in academic journal before
                those are single examples of modern hunter gatherers, though
                there are tribes that eat mud cookies, does that mean human digestive tracts evolved to eat mud?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >asking for source
              >making a million billion claims without posting a single source the whole thread

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                science is a israeli psyop unless it supports my point in which case i'm so fricking right that even they have to bend the knee and admit the truth

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no but seriously it's the only way you should think about it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >NO SCOYENTIFIC PROOFS!!!
          modern science is a demonic ritual and on top of that mechanistic understanding of human nutrition is poor at best. there's this weird fixation carnitards have with trying to get people to prove via mechanical explanation why plants are good for you when its just obvious. Our ancestors ate plants and considered them healthy. it was a common ancient Greek belief that eating meat was an unhealthy indulgence and mostly preserved for feasts. Going back 2,500 years we have records of people's perception that people who ate less meat tended to be healthier. This was back before plant based goyslop existed though which is significantly worse than anything that comes out of nature without much human modification. the primary benefit of carnivory is it excludes said goyslop
          >muh antinutrients/POISON
          are vastly fricking overstated as a problem. some of these antinutrients can result in allergic or inflammatory reactions in people sensitive to them similar to lactose, shellfish and even red meat itself. if you're allergic to something your ancestors probably didn't eat it and you probably lack some of the proper adaptations to properly digest it. they hinder nutrient absorption but this is only a problem if you're a vegan and not getting any high bioavailability nutrients from animal sources.

          carnivore diet is ironically a modern consumptive masculinity/weak male fetish. I eat meat but I know stronger and wiser men than I who don't. I don't know any non-gay/non-moronic vegans though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >there's this weird fixation carnitards have with trying to get people to prove via mechanical explanation why plants are good for you when its just obvious.
            It's not obvious, at all. Broccoli, kale, spinach, all taste disgusting when consumed raw.
            Many vegetables are barely even edible or have defensive mechanisms, like ginger, onion, garlic, etc.
            You have to cook the shit out of them and cover them in fats for it to be enjoyable.

            The "obvious" thing would be to eat what's both tasty and natural, but people have this moronic mindset where something tasting bad means it must be good for you.
            Biologically speaking, if a food tastes bad for you, then it means that your body hasn't adapted to eating it. Plain and simple. That's why you'll never enjoy the taste of your lawn, while ruminants can graze on it for as long as they like without barfing it back up.

            >carnivore diet is ironically a modern consumptive masculinity/weak male fetish.
            I agree, people shouldn't be carnivore, and eating meat exclusively is not natural. Nor is it masculine to eat a lot of meat, since women should be eating a lot of meat, too.

            >if you include fish
            no, I don't. Btw my point wasn't that
            >but muh *very specific population in a very specific span of time* had great longevity AND they consumed a lot/ not a lot of meat!
            but to show how these cherry picked cases are hardly statistically significant as they include a lot of confounding factors

            Well, your "data" is infinitely cherrypicked because it wasn't even based on proper census data and it was during a time of starvation.
            Wheras "my" data is literally as recent, modern and applicable as it gets.

            [...]

            Many carnivore influencers live and die by the agenda that you should eat carnivore to get big and strong.
            Bodybuilding, in many ways, is antithetical to healthy living.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Well, your "data" is infinitely cherrypicked because it wasn't even based on proper census data and it was during a time of starvation.
              >Wheras "my" data is literally as recent, modern and applicable as it gets.
              You are ignoring the Sardinian case. Also no matter the size of the population, if you are just correlating longevity with meat consumption your analysis is piss

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You are ignoring the Sardinian case.
                I haven't looked into Sardinians, so I can't confirm it, nor deny it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              icky icky broccoli kale and spinach!!! icky to me so they are bad for you!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. A balanced diet is clearly better and makes more sense. Humans have always eaten a variety of things. Not just meat. It's just some moronic broscience crap for dipshits who want to be "manly" like "cavemen"(who didn't exclusively eat meat anyway)

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All diets are inherently scams

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I think you could just as well follow a Medieval humorist diet and the health effects wouldn't be all that different from the latest fad diet.

      Healthy eating is really mainly about portion control.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >is ____ (meme) diet real?
    >does _____ (meme) diet work?
    >is moronic nonsense posted by morons on ____ meme diet worthy of reading?
    Meme diets are memes because the common denominated between literally ALL of them is that they exist as a gatekeeper that stops gigantic fat fricks from shoveling literal garbage down their throat 24/7
    >WHOA
    >____ (MEME) DIET TOTALLY WORKS
    >(was actually forced into not drinking 5 gallons of soda and couldn’t consume 440% of their recommended calories because they couldn’t eat the 4lbs of ultra processed garbage they can easily buy off the shelf)
    Turns out if you just cook using whole, minimally processed foods, you won’t turn into a gigantic, type-2 diabetic whale.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just cook using whole, minimally processed food
      that's also a meme (which doesn't inherently mean it's wrong)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is CICO real?
      does CICO qprk?
      >what is CICO
      think

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >whole, minimally processed foods
      Thats at the heart of many meme diets, they just go round-about way of say don't eat processed shit and seed oils.
      Its not hard.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Those plates look very nice. Anyone know where i can get something like that?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/twrGtRn.jpg

      Is carnivore diet a fricking psy op ?
      They say that vegetables and fruits are unhealthy and only eat 100% meat/beef
      What the actual frick ???????????????

      Bump from a different anon. Where can one get plates like these?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        those are Bonna brand plates from the "Mesopotamia" collection

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          wow thanks. How did you find this out? Or are you just familiar with all kinds of dinnerware?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            google lens

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              frick ai is taking over for real

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore only exists because grown adults are too embarrassed to just say they think vegetables are yucky.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this seems like one of those 'diets' made up by big beef industry to sell more shit since beef consumption has been down since the pandemic

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they want us to eat more beef those Black folk should lower the fricking price. shit is nearly $10/lb here for GROUND BEEF

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This
        >We need more sales
        >We could make it more accessible
        >But naaaah
        My paycheck isn't matching inflation ffs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The posterboy for the carnivore diet, "Doctor" Shawn baker actually does sell meat. He lost his license. Also hes diabetic and his test is in the toilet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Person speaking the truth is punished by the establishment
        Reminds me of the lawyers who got disbarred for talking about how the banking system is corrupt and unconstitutional

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Its weird how you got "innocent man being persecuted" from that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Person speaking the truth
          it's not really speaking the truth when you're clearly taking testosterone or steroids and stuff like that and saying it's because of all the meat you eat

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a completely moronic way to eat. That said, if I could have steak for every meal I would, hands down

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its the most natural way, though carnitards don't eat eyeballs, brains and snouts, ears and testicles along with other wobbly bits while chomping on bones. Nor is it game or some fatty mammoth, its some grown meat of dubious quality.

      Meat is what sustained us for 300000 years and elevated us into what we are but replicating is not very easy in modern society if you really want to go full caveman and reap the benefits.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It works short-term to help reset your gut biome. You eat until satiety, and rediscover what satiety really feels like. If you can stick with it for a week or two it can help fix your carb cravings and help you understand what your body really needs. Try it out for a few days, it won't hurt you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It works short-term to help reset your gut biome.
      Explain the whole "reset gut biome" thing and what does eating only meat have to do with that

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's wrong on that. Effectively, your gut biome is made up of billions of little microbes, and different species feed on different things. People who have eaten fast food and other junk foods for years will have killed off most of the microbes that feed on healthy foods, and promoted just those feeding on material in trash foods. It's why people can get stomach problems if they go abroad and eat different foods, even if they've avoided local water, because their gut biome isn't used to it and can't handle it.

        There's no way to "reset" your gut biome. You need to eat a wide and varied range of food to keep a healthy gut biome, and in some cases the last holdouts of dying species can return if you move to a "universal" diet, but otherwise you're fricked.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There's no way to "reset" your gut biome.
          Hard everclear drinking binge with no food for 3 days then go all in on fermented foods and probiotics to gutmaxx

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you eat vegetables? Name a single vitamin or nutrient in vegetables you can't get in meat, and don't start with vitamin C-it is present in all raw meat and the spleen especially. The real psy op is cooking food-cooking should be reserved only for plants, since they are mostly inedible otherwise. Starchy veg and grains should only be eaten out of necessity, as famine food, otherwise it is slave food. Broccoli and other brassica, and all alliums (onions etc.), and chillies, and many other plants, are absolutely poisonous, and if you eat them you are mentally ill.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn you're gayer than OP

      Which is saying something as he commented 3 times on how gay he is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Broccoli and other brassica, and all alliums (onions etc.), and chillies, and many other plants, are absolutely poisonous, and if you eat them you are mentally ill.
      white peepo be sayin brocolli is spicy HAHA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Name a single vitamin or nutrient in vegetables you can't get in meat
      Try fiber.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      5 year old me explaining to my mom why she shouldn't feed me vegetables:

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I rarely eat veg anymore. I feel like shit and now I have gout.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop spamming this garbage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Stop seething tunnel rat, the goyim know

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We'll see if it's a psyop if Jack Scalfani lives or dies

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's heavily funded by the cattle ranching industry, seriously. They have a huge lobbyist fund which includes a social media program. Their new trend is arguing that dietary cholesterol and blood pressure are not important

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It never made any sense
      Suddenly out of nowhere vegetables are toxic and you shouldn't eat them and only eat 100% BEEF
      What the frick ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Suddenly out of nowhere vegetables are toxic and you shouldn't eat them and only eat 100% BEEF
        People from all around the world only ever ate vegetables as a last resort.
        It's absolute slave food or post-war food for when you either can't afford or no longer breed livestock, anymore.

        No human in nature would prefer artificial seed sludge (which is what bread is, unless you point me to the nearest bakery run by a non-human) over meat.
        Humans are obligate carnivores.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >blood pressure are not important
      I've actually been reading up on that, and we probably do freak out WAY too much about BP, and the way we measure it is kinda shit. Not saying that 0 BP and 200+BP isn't bad as frick, any extreme is bad for you and indicative of death/dying, just that we are freaking out about minor changes in numbers that are a pain in the ass to measure properly and are affected by FAR too many things, including nervousness. Plus it's not like the average tard monitors their BP enough to know what is/isn't normal for them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        At least in my country, doctors typically won't tell you the result and don't tell you to monitor at home without some specific purpose for exactly that reason. If you're not sick you shouldn't care.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its getting pushed by pol needing to make everything super manly and autistic. its a shit diet for morons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There is nothing "manly" about the carnivore diet.
      Both men and women should be eating almost exclusively animal products, with the occasional fruit for hydration and vitamin C.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn't it make more sense to be an omnivore and eat whatever you need?
    I don't really see what is so hard about this, unless you are genetically defective and can't eat food.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People finally found a way to be as annoying as vegans but in the other direction. It's a meme for people who never grew up and still don't like to eat their veggies, so now they pretend to be ultra healthy manly men and they claim that vegetables are bad for you, much like how vegans pretend to be morally superior to everyone and claim that meat is bad for you.
    We're omnivores, we have teeth that work for meat and for plants, our guts easily digest both, and we suffer from malnutrition if we only eat one or the other. Vegans have to take pills to get the nutrients they're missing from meat, "carnivores" have got to be getting scurvy but it's a relatively new fad, so I don't know if there are cases of that yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Idk what to believe anymore so much misinfo going on
      I've been on the keto/carnivore diet on and off for about 6-7 months now and I feel like fricking shit
      Tired all the time
      No sugary drinks, grains, no carby veggies, not alot of fruits
      I would kill for a decent salad right now
      Thr sight of steak or meat makes me want to fricking gag right now
      I've had it every frickin day for like 7 months
      Eggs, beef, steak, chicken
      Frick I think I should cut back a lot from them and reintroduce veggies and fruits into my diet again

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is weird to me. In the military, the general rule of thumb is this: If you know you are going to be very physically active, eat a bunch of carbs. Otherwise, eat meats and vegetables, and don't go crazy with carbs, but it's cool to eat shit like oats and drink orange juice for breakfast.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's what sane people do. The internet and meme diets turn people into morons.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why would the military know anything about optimal civilian nutrition? Doesn't make any sense.

          Might be a troll but frick it, when did people even come up with these insane diets like vegan, keto or this, just have an balanced and healthy food intake, you don't have to think too hard about it.
          Also,
          >carnivore diet
          what.

          >just have an balanced and healthy food intake
          Just because you can eat something, doesn't mean that you should.
          People have historically only eaten vegetables to avoid starvation. It's absolute peasant food, and why so many religions literally revolve around meat restriction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >People have historically only eaten vegetables to avoid starvation. It's absolute peasant food
            absolute moron take
            though, if you're doing carnivore the problem gonna fix itself in due time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would the military know anything about optimal civilian nutrition? Doesn't make any sense.
            civilians and military personnel belong to the same species and share the same biology you utter moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            people have historically eaten vegetables because they taste good. the earliest known recipes that were for food being prepared for the wealthiest people contain vegetables.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thing is even carnivores eat carbs. A predator will eat the intestines of their herbivore prey which has a lot of plant matter and shit being digested. Carnivores in the wild also eat fruits and certain veggies like humans do. The issue with the paleo or "carnivore diet" is really that its different from what an actual carnivore, including prehistoric nomadic people would have eaten. Modern meat is basically just the muscle fiber, cooked, so has a lot of less range of nutrition than raw, uncleaned intestines and other organs + random plant shit, dirt, bark, fruit that paleo-carnivore man ate.

        This is weird to me. In the military, the general rule of thumb is this: If you know you are going to be very physically active, eat a bunch of carbs. Otherwise, eat meats and vegetables, and don't go crazy with carbs, but it's cool to eat shit like oats and drink orange juice for breakfast.

        You don't need a lot of carbs tho for physical activity unless you're like a genetic freak, pro athlete or something training hours a day. A big bowl of oats and a tall glass of orange juice could have like 400 calories which is like how much 2+ hours of exercise would burn above just baseline energy usage. The typically modern bad diet could be taking in like 300-400g carbs a day which is way overkill.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they already managed in early 2000s with the gay bacon on everything meme

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vegans are morally superior.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no they're not, they're morons trying to feel good about themselves through individual restraint and moralistic self-flagellation instead of understanding that system-level regulation is what's needed. they're the laziest of all, ironically.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nope. Why do orangutans have bigger canines than us but only eat fruit? I agree that we are omnivores but that argument for it has always been stupid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Humans are definitely carnivores

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, human's digestion is basically carnivore digestion. We can't digest grass and shit like herbivores. Just light veggies and fruits that a lot of undisputed carnivores eat too, like lions, wolves, and alligators do eat some fruits and veggies too.

          People finally found a way to be as annoying as vegans but in the other direction. It's a meme for people who never grew up and still don't like to eat their veggies, so now they pretend to be ultra healthy manly men and they claim that vegetables are bad for you, much like how vegans pretend to be morally superior to everyone and claim that meat is bad for you.
          We're omnivores, we have teeth that work for meat and for plants, our guts easily digest both, and we suffer from malnutrition if we only eat one or the other. Vegans have to take pills to get the nutrients they're missing from meat, "carnivores" have got to be getting scurvy but it's a relatively new fad, so I don't know if there are cases of that yet.

          From raw meat you can get every vitamin, its the cooking process that destroys certain vitamins that can cause deficiencies you don't eat veggies + cooked meat. But if you ate raw meat you could survive. Obviously that's not healthy because of parasites and shit I'm just talking form a nutritional perspective you can survive on pure raw meat. You can also survive purely on plants, but so can a cat for example, its just not as healthy.

          Humans are basically carnivores biologically, its just that agriculture is so OP humans eat a lot of grains and starches and shit because they are so plentiful and the only way to feed mass populations, not because our biologic is particularly adapted to them. And in the last 10,000 agrarian societies would just massively out populate any hunter/nomadic meat eaters group, even if its not as healthy on an individual level.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a stealth JaCulinaly thread?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      More like a stealth Stro/ke/ thread. In my pants. With a hole in my pocket.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he keeps reducing the frequency with which he posts his numbers because they're not getting better and he is basically on the verge of stroke 4 (or 5 if you count his mini stroke he didnt go to the hospital for).
      he can't even soyface anymore. I don't know whats worse being further crippled by yet another stroke and continuing to live on or just dying.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why does his family let him do this to himself?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I assume they're just as moronic as he is.
          Either that or they're waiting to cash a fat life insurance.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I assume they're just as moronic as he is.
          Either that or they're waiting to cash a fat life insurance.

          Jack hasn't had an actual job with benefits since Clinton was in office. He just is and always has been a glutton. The last thing he needs is any diet with a lot of salt, his strokes were caused by his high blood pressure that he refuses to take medication to manage despite a family history of it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is zero (0) peer reviewed scientific evidence that demonstrates salt intake leads to stroke.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not just beef its all meat and eggs and any dairy product that isn't milk like butter, cream, sour cream and cottage cheese. Not sure why it became a thing but I'm trying it right now. It's pretty filling, most days I only eat once or twice. You don't drown your food in butter like people meme. Most days I drop a third pound of sausage and some steak or chicken thigh, let that fry up.
    Then I'll drop a slice of butter in the pan and use that and the grease from the meat to fry 3 or 4 eggs. Sprinkle or slice some cheese on top of the eggs and gtg. Very hearty and filling. Had some chips today for the first time in a week. I couldn't believe how salty they tasted, after just a couple of them I wanted to stop and usually I eat a whole bag no problem.
    Of course it's not a long term sustainable diet but for short periods of time it's one of the easiest diets to stick to I never felt hungry or like I was missing out because the food I could eat was delicious.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and any dairy product that isn't milk like butter, cream, sour cream and cottage cheese.
      The cognitive dissonance on display is insane. You know all of that shit is made out of milk, right?
      If milk isn't acceptable, why are milk based products acceptable?
      Herpaderp!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You aren't as smart as you think you are.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You aren't as smart as you think you are.
          And here it comes. The personal insults, and the accusations. Not to mention the wild claims about diets that have no basis in reality, and when I ask this anon for peer reviewed studies to back up his claims, he will accuse me of being a israelite, and will tell me that I should burn myself alive in an oven.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That sure is a wild story you have concocted there in your head buddy. Sorry I didn't engage in your little game of semantics to make you feel better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Milk is an animal product so milk is fine if you want to drink it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I personally avoid milk because it's too easy to down a ton of calories without even thinking about it.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    One week in trying this for shits and giggles and I don't really notice anything apart from feeling more satiated after meals. I'm skipping lunch because I'm still full from breakfast.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It works for me because I didn't really eat veggies much anyways. Not because I think they are yucky I'm just supremely lazy and they take more work to make them taste good. It's a whole lot easier to just throw some meat in a pan and crack a few eggs and be done with it, no thought or effort required. Also gives a much better feeling of fullness than a bunch of bread and other shit gave me. I still love carbs way too much to give up and I don't even think it's a good idea for the long term. Just going to do it for a couple of weeks then do a 3-5 day fast and then start adding potatoes or rice and shit to my meals every other day.
      Cut all drinkable calories and sugar as much as possible though.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Vegetables don't have to be hard. Here's a few easy ones I like, as a fellow lazy frick:
        Oven-roasted asparagus with olive oil and black pepper.
        Drain some canned corn or peas, season and add a bit of butter, simmer on med-high to reduce the liquid.
        Toss some hashbrown, hash or patty, into the pan while you're making sausages and eggs. Classic diner breakfast.
        Put random shit like baby spinach or garlic in omelettes and scrambled eggs.
        Pre-slice an onion or pepper to toss onto sandwiches.

        You feel better and more full after meals because you're not eating entire bags of Lays in a single sitting and not drinking 20 gallons of Diet Pepsi every day. That's only going to be fixed by carnivorism for a short period of time before you'll start feeling like shit because you're not eating enough plants.
        Stop the cycle. Eat a balanced fricking breakfast instead of relying on meme diets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That's only going to be fixed by carnivorism for a short period of time before you'll start feeling like shit because you're not eating enough plants.
          I have never in my entire life heard of a human craving for plants.
          At most, they craved for very carb-heavy foods, but I've never heard of a human say "Oh my God, I am feeling so shit right now for not eating uhhhhh... spinach and asparagus? dunno"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I stayed at someone's house when they went on vacation. They left a bunch of food for me. It was mostly meat and starchy foods. After a few days of that I had a dream of eating a salad and kept craving it.

            I guess you might say that craving only happened because I was eating the starchy foods. I don't really know. But I do crave vegetables sometimes if I've gone a while without eating them. Supposedly the fiber is good for your gut flora. And it helps move everything through your system.

            A lot of the vegetables you'll find in the store are overgrown which makes them more tough and bitter. Like there's a big difference in the taste and texture between the dark green big outer stalks of celery and the light green small inner ones. A vegetable can go from tasty and delicious to inedible depending on when it's harvested.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Salads are mostly made out of fruits, e.g. cucumber, tomato, corn, avocado...
              To top it off, most people who eat salads usually do so by adding fat.
              Usually any dairy product or seed oil. Most people don't like fat-less salads, unless they add plenty of citrus juice, which is another fruit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ...and fruits come from plants too. The original point was that nobody craves plants, and it was incorrect.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I love these threads because this type of diet appeals to complete morons. Its funny seeing what they have to say.
            perfect example here
            >me and all my friends don't like icky veggies therefore nobody in the world likes or craves them.
            lmao

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                your intellect is astounding. pack it up boys, the science is settled

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't need to be intelligent to understand what's good for you and what's bad for you.
                When you drink rotten milk, you spit it out because it's disgusting.
                When a baby eats a vegetable, it spits it out because it's disgusting.

                The difference between you and a baby is that you've been forced to eat so many vegetables that you've become accustomed to them. Humans adapt to shitty food in times of food scarcity, which is exactly why throughout all of human civilization, high grain and vegetable consumption was considered impoverishment, because everyone has a natural desire to eat meat.
                A baby has not yet been accustomed to what cultures want you to eat. A baby deserves the best kind of food there is, which is only found in animal products.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That's only going to be fixed by carnivorism for a short period of time before you'll start feeling like shit because you're not eating enough plants.
                I have never in my entire life heard of a human craving for plants.
                At most, they craved for very carb-heavy foods, but I've never heard of a human say "Oh my God, I am feeling so shit right now for not eating uhhhhh... spinach and asparagus? dunno"

                >Suddenly out of nowhere vegetables are toxic and you shouldn't eat them and only eat 100% BEEF
                People from all around the world only ever ate vegetables as a last resort.
                It's absolute slave food or post-war food for when you either can't afford or no longer breed livestock, anymore.

                No human in nature would prefer artificial seed sludge (which is what bread is, unless you point me to the nearest bakery run by a non-human) over meat.
                Humans are obligate carnivores.

                >This fricker here says don't eat veggies ever again
                Makes sense.
                Wild vegetables are absolutely disgusting, we literally had to breed them to be palatable, and even then, if you fed a baby modern vegetables, the baby would barf it right out because its natural instincts are telling it to.
                Babies, however, will naturally crave meat, especially meat very high in fat.
                As a very little child, I always had a craving for raw ground beef and didn't care if it was cooked or not, so I would always sneak some into my mouth and get scolded by my parents.

                People who are trying to prop up vegetable as healthy foods are not arguing for a natural diet, they think that our natural diet is inferior and that we need to "hack our bodies" to live healthily.

                Lol you're gonna get colon cancer and die

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Diet is one of the least significant contributors to colon cancer.
                Any research that relates cancer to dietary habits is to be taken with a grain of salt.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                try feeding a baby your blue rare steak and see how that goes you dumb little queer

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >try feeding a baby your blue rare steak and see how that goes you dumb little queer
                This based anon thinks queers have babies like those filthy breeders

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                These particular queers are in denial, in the closet, and definitely having kids with a woman they hate just to play through the larp

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Babies absolutely love raw meat, especially liver.
                They also love raw eggs.
                Parents who are cooking with their children often have to prevent said children from eating the raw ingredients.
                I remember often trying to eat raw ground beef when I was a toddler. The taste was pretty neutral, but I kept wanting more.

                Here's a super secret diet that works for big majority of people - everything in moderation.
                Thank me later.

                There is no need to eat vegetables in moderation.
                Almost all vegetables are nutritionally worthless.

                >When a baby eats a vegetable, it spits it out because it's disgusting.
                babies seem to like sweet potatoes and carrots

                The sweet potato is the first ever genetically modified vegetable on the planet.
                Wild carrots taste very bitter compared to commonly eaten GMO'd carrots.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ate raw meat as a baby
                Bro you don't need carnivore diet you need the fricking wormpill

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Babies absolutely love raw meat, especially liver.
                You e never fed a baby have you

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Babies absolutely love raw meat, especially liver.
                You e never fed a baby have you

                >ate raw meat as a baby
                Bro you don't need carnivore diet you need the fricking wormpill

                This is such a huge armchair microbiologist post. You are not an expert in this field and are just giving blatant conjecture.
                All I am saying is that, if you want to eat the foods of your ancestors, you should not be eating what people ate thousands of years ago.

                [...]
                Yes, that's because humans didn't have to "invent" food before the dawn of civilization. We just ate what was natural to us.
                You'll find that the only reason people started moving towards agriculture is because we lived in larger and larger groups that made hunting alone less sustainable.
                The very fact that you call it invention already tells you that it's unnatural.

                I don't claim that I derive many of the mentioned beliefs from sciences.
                When I drink rotten milk, I spit it out, because it's disgusting, and therfore my body knows it's bad for me. That is not scientific.

                >you know most people dont think vegetables are icky right?
                Most children hate vegetables.
                Raw vegetables are disgusting, so are water-boiled vegetables.
                You usually use a dressing or stir fry them in fat to make them palatable.

                >then youre going on and on about how we had to selective breed plants to make them taste better when we did the same thing with animals.
                Almost all wild mammals can be eaten raw.
                >theres a reason we mostly eat beef pork lamb and chicken
                The only reason we bred them is because some animals are easier to keep around.
                For example, chickens have a strict pecking order which creates a social element that animal husbandry takes advantage of.
                >and not some nasty shit like monkey meat
                You are brainlessly calling monkey meat "nasty shit", when it's seen as a delicacy in many parts of the world.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_meat
                The reason that we don't eat monkey meat in western countries has nothing to do with its taste.

                >"I am an American who only eats GMO slop and has never tended his own garden, icky gross vegetables yuck! More beef stuffed with antibiotics and corn for me! My food eats good food!"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not American, and most Americans are eating garbage diets, regardless of vegetable consumption.
                America is a big country, too, so I assume that their beef quality isn't all the same.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                obsessed moron bringing up america out of nowhere. the guy youre talking about has been replying to the thread at all euro times

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                "Vegetables are nutritionally worthless" is a hilarious thing. Vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, polyphenols, prebiotics, probiotics, omega 3, omega 6, healthful shit like sulforaphane.. the list goes on man. Just because carrots, radishes, sprouts, leeks and shit arent 20% protein doesn't mean it lacks nutrition.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Parents who are cooking with their children often have to prevent said children from eating the raw ingredients.
                Lmao that's such bullshit. Babies put everything in their mouths. From their toys to the bugs and rocks outside. What's your point?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >When a baby eats a vegetable, it spits it out because it's disgusting.
                babies seem to like sweet potatoes and carrots

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This only happens if you let them eat sugar all the time as kids. If you restrict sugar they'll enjoy vegetables.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Please for spaghetti monsters sake, cook your meat properly. Food poisoning isn't worth trying to impress people on the internet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >for spaghetti monsters sake

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is right though, rawgays basically risk salmonella all the time.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros..... I'm worried JaCulinaly isn't going to survive the carnivore diet

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He keeps posting his blood pressure daily which is shocking. He probably could have avoided several strokes if he just took that medication he was prescribed but he insists he doesn't need it.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The latest actual psyop is "too much protein is bad, eat less than 40mg." Mongols were onto something.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the amount the fda thinks an adult male needs for protein is insane

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      literally nobody says this

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        people say that shit all the time, except obviously not milligrams

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes they do, haven't you seen all those things of "you will die and not live past 80 because eating 50g+ of protein per day will shorten your lifespan, look at all these poor asians who live to 100!"

        An average grown man should have 60-80g of protein per day if he intends to keep his muscle mass, 120g if he intends to grow his muscles and do serious physical exertion.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, I got up to 225lb bench and 16.5 inch arms eating around 60g a day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DyHOUq1.png

      the amount the fda thinks an adult male needs for protein is insane

      people say that shit all the time, except obviously not milligrams

      >"I am sedentary and work a desk job, I need a pound of meat at every meal"
      When was the last time you actually felt hungry? I ask Americans this a lot because many cannot recall the last time they weren't stuffed to the gills and it is scary

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol a few weeks ago i read in the carnivore subreddit a 5'4 woman(i dont remember how much she weight but i think normal) or something like that claiming eating 4 pounds or more of meat a day. These people have absolutely lost their mind

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of this shit is just adults that don't want to concede that they just don't like vegetables because it sounds juvenile. So instead they have to come up with this theory about how vegetables are poison or something

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >adults that don't want to concede that they just don't like vegetables because it sounds juvenile
            lol but this guy is openly admitting it

            You don't need to be intelligent to understand what's good for you and what's bad for you.
            When you drink rotten milk, you spit it out because it's disgusting.
            When a baby eats a vegetable, it spits it out because it's disgusting.

            The difference between you and a baby is that you've been forced to eat so many vegetables that you've become accustomed to them. Humans adapt to shitty food in times of food scarcity, which is exactly why throughout all of human civilization, high grain and vegetable consumption was considered impoverishment, because everyone has a natural desire to eat meat.
            A baby has not yet been accustomed to what cultures want you to eat. A baby deserves the best kind of food there is, which is only found in animal products.

            >it's disgusting.

            Why would the military know anything about optimal civilian nutrition? Doesn't make any sense.
            [...]
            >just have an balanced and healthy food intake
            Just because you can eat something, doesn't mean that you should.
            People have historically only eaten vegetables to avoid starvation. It's absolute peasant food, and why so many religions literally revolve around meat restriction.

            >It's absolute peasant food

            >That's only going to be fixed by carnivorism for a short period of time before you'll start feeling like shit because you're not eating enough plants.
            I have never in my entire life heard of a human craving for plants.
            At most, they craved for very carb-heavy foods, but I've never heard of a human say "Oh my God, I am feeling so shit right now for not eating uhhhhh... spinach and asparagus? dunno"

            >never in my entire life heard of a human craving for plants.

            >This fricker here says don't eat veggies ever again
            Makes sense.
            Wild vegetables are absolutely disgusting, we literally had to breed them to be palatable, and even then, if you fed a baby modern vegetables, the baby would barf it right out because its natural instincts are telling it to.
            Babies, however, will naturally crave meat, especially meat very high in fat.
            As a very little child, I always had a craving for raw ground beef and didn't care if it was cooked or not, so I would always sneak some into my mouth and get scolded by my parents.

            People who are trying to prop up vegetable as healthy foods are not arguing for a natural diet, they think that our natural diet is inferior and that we need to "hack our bodies" to live healthily.

            >vegetables are absolutely disgusting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon you're not an 11th century mongol expending upwards of 1500 calories/day, you work a desk job

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >anon you're not an 11th century mongol expending upwards of 1500 calories/day
        A mongol warrior would probably need 3,000 calories on busy days to maintain their bodymass. Much less, if they're sedentary.
        1,500 is the recommended amount for the average man, and even then, that's on the lower side.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Desk job desk job desk job. You should only eat slave slop like noodles. I am israeli btw.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore is plausible, but hardly necessary for health. It's pretty neurotic.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For some people it's medically necessary in the same way "keto" can be used to treat epilepsy, but as a general rule it's a meme/scam.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"keto" can be used to treat epilepsy
      A lot of childhood epilepsy is caused by parasites. Chronic intestinal worm infection can cause worm cestodes to migrate to the brain and cause seizures.
      Keto/carnivore cuts off their supply of glucose and they starve.
      Most parasite meds cannot cross the blood-brain barrier, so it's either starve the parasite, or risky surgery.
      Carnivore is a good start to treat the chronic, systemic parasite infections that afflict most users of this degenerate, worm-riddled website.
      Not a meme. A good start. A wake up call.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eating only cooked muscle tissue is the meme. Just some trendy fad for slaves, the raw primal diet is the real deal.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    normally this meme sucks but that's pretty spot on

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    replace your processed carbs or at the very least heavily decrease them in favor of veggies and replace your sweets with fruit. its that easy. dairy isnt that good for you cause its processed but its certainly not as bad as processed carbs. Do keep in mind this is a general rule of thumb if you are a navy seal its obviously different than what randy from it needs

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Might be a troll but frick it, when did people even come up with these insane diets like vegan, keto or this, just have an balanced and healthy food intake, you don't have to think too hard about it.
    Also,
    >carnivore diet
    what.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >balanced and healthy food intake
      Buzz words for sheep.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        really desperate for attention today huh?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I want to make a lot of money but I'm a lazy frick
      >Hmm, people are fat but want to lose weight
      >Know that they should eat less calories but are too fat and lazy to do it
      >I'll sell them a book that says that there's an easy trick to losing weight that just so happens to involve eating less calories than you normally do
      >The book sells millions of copies
      That's pretty much the origin of every fad diet.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    im on it now. only eat beef and drink water.

    lost weight and cured my auto immune condition of 14 years in 3 months.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      do you eat beef liver, or just the muscle meats?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nutrition science is the most insane thing ever. These frickers seem like they contradict each other and themselves every other year. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s how cholesterol was bad and red meat was dangerous. Now apparently cholesterol is fine provided it comes from animal products and it's vegetables and seed oils that are bad. This fricker here says don't eat veggies ever again, only animal products. Has a list of references at the end, which is helpful.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      who am I supposed to believe?
      also don't think I can go full carnivore, I love rice, beans, potatoes, and bread too much.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        100% of nutrition science comes from tainted sources, outside of the basic chemistry stuff. Too many lobbies involved to sell their shit, be it eggs, sugar, meat, dairy, veggies, etc. All the corps are competing to get their shit sold in volumes, and that means tainting the science to manipulate the news morons who are science-illiterate. All the fad diets want to sell you shit, like planners, guides, etc. just like "self-help" gurus.

        Absolutely NONE of these frickers have skin in the game. Especially not for (You). Best thing is for you to explore your body's needs, and curate your own diet as required. Experiment with fasting and other food diets to see what works/doesn't work for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >This fricker here says don't eat veggies ever again
      Makes sense.
      Wild vegetables are absolutely disgusting, we literally had to breed them to be palatable, and even then, if you fed a baby modern vegetables, the baby would barf it right out because its natural instincts are telling it to.
      Babies, however, will naturally crave meat, especially meat very high in fat.
      As a very little child, I always had a craving for raw ground beef and didn't care if it was cooked or not, so I would always sneak some into my mouth and get scolded by my parents.

      People who are trying to prop up vegetable as healthy foods are not arguing for a natural diet, they think that our natural diet is inferior and that we need to "hack our bodies" to live healthily.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. As a baby I would eat some raw pork loin or ribeye steak and would get scolded by my parents. It was my favorite cravings. It ultimately came out good for me. I have immaculate biomarkers and physique.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yep. Babies and toddlers absolutely crave for nutrition-dense food, and there is nothing more nutritious than animal foods, since obviously, animals are the ones eating plants.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Plants eat animals too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lol lmao babies primary crave fruit (natural human food) and dairy (substitute for breast milk). no baby craves meat. they like chicken nuggets because it's salty and breaded

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I really enjoy that Chad occasionally takes time away from banging super models to post on random boards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >These frickers seem like they contradict each other and themselves every other year.
      Yeah, because you read sensationalized reports on nutrition science which exaggerate the evidence into a definite connection instead of reading the actual studies which almost always say there is a *possible* connection between X ingredient and Y health effect, not that X invariably causes Y.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I eat whatever I want and I like some vegetables and fruits.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    god damn i would send this back so fast. the meat isnt even rare its just uncooked. likely the salamander wasnt up all the way or they put it in a cold spot. terrible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      decent bait but pretty stale, i doubt anybody's falling for this one

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fat fingers and arm
    average ketogay
    i'm a low carb person but i don't do this dumb shit

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    See what happened to Kings or the T Rex for eating only meat.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have chronic health issues
    >eating most plants makes my body hurt in various ways
    >eating meat makes me have nightmares of animals screaming sometimes
    how to breatharian

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no babies like vegetables
    T. supercharged keto brain anon, 2024

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >eat carbs
    >constant heartburn
    >eat little or no carbs
    >no more heartburn
    It's a very easy choice for me to make. The standard american diet is the biggest meme diet of them all and it turns out that you really are susceptible to propaganda.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you get heartburn equally from fruit and bread? I notice I'm more likely to get heartburn from drier carbs like bread unlike fruit or oatmeal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I feel it really strongly with baked goods. Cookies are the worst for it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only happens to me with bread.
      I can chug down noodles and potatoes just fine.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a super secret diet that works for big majority of people - everything in moderation.
    Thank me later.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore diet works for the select few people who have serious sensitivity problems to different foods when they want a short period of no inflammation. In the longer term it's quite stressful on someone's gut bacteria and someone can potentally become overly reactive to any plant foods. Ideally a healthy person would be able to be fine while eating like a strong and able bodied working person hundreds of years ago. Like an ancient mediterranean man living in a coastal city having some bread, some fish or dried meat, some wine, some figs, stews made of whatever happens to be on hand, and so on. And having a lot of energy to do all his work every week

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Like an ancient mediterranean man living in a coastal city having some bread, some fish or dried meat, some wine, some figs, stews made of whatever happens to be on hand, and so on.
      Going back thousands of years ago won't reveal anything relevant for your diet.
      Humans didn't eat bread hundreds of thousands of years ago.
      Nor were they stupid enough to drink poisons like alcohol.
      Your ancestors in truth barely ate any carbs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And yet any of the great writers of ancient cities or farming towns who we still read today ate some bread, barley, oats, or rice. The more that's researchrd about gut bacteria every year the more compelling links are found between the healthy gut bacteria of the moms part of the population (since babies directly inherit their flora from their mothers) and the healthy brain development of their children due to the influence gut flora has on all other systems. Messing around radically with the inheritence modern humans have in the expanse of diverse bacteria populations throughout the human digestive tract I don't think is worth the risks

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is such a huge armchair microbiologist post. You are not an expert in this field and are just giving blatant conjecture.
          All I am saying is that, if you want to eat the foods of your ancestors, you should not be eating what people ate thousands of years ago.

          bread and alcohol are two of the earliest human food inventions of all time. should have gone for an easier target like fruit rollups. no way ancient egyptians have those

          Yes, that's because humans didn't have to "invent" food before the dawn of civilization. We just ate what was natural to us.
          You'll find that the only reason people started moving towards agriculture is because we lived in larger and larger groups that made hunting alone less sustainable.
          The very fact that you call it invention already tells you that it's unnatural.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you want to eat the foods of your ancestors, you should not be eating what people ate thousands of years ago.
            There have been genetic changes in people from thousands of years ago though. If your ancestors were farmers thousands of years ago there's probably a good chance you have genes to produce more amylase in your saliva to help digest starchy food. If your ancestors thousands of years ago relied heavily on dairy then you can probably digest lactose into adulthood because you have genes for lactase persistence. Hunter-gatherers were making bread from wild grains and tubers thousands of years before people began farming. Genetic changes don't have to be massive or take a long time, but changes from thousands of years ago can be relevant to you today.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Hunter-gatherers were making bread from wild grains and tubers thousands of years before people began farming.
              I question how much of it made up their daily caloric intake if they started making bread before the advent of agriculture.

              Are you from the mediterranean?
              Do you think that inuits and siberians ought to eat a carnivore diet, because that's essentially all their ancestors ate (+ seasonal berries)?

              And I'm saying you're way too vague about what the word ancestors is even referring to or even why we should care about the 100k years ago ancestors versus our immediate 1000-5000 years ago ancestors. To be blunt I really don't care about any ancestors who weren't able to read and write to some degree and didn't have any written myths yet. I don't see any reason to follow any connections to the low stakes wandering tribes versus the habits of the ones who decided to start building and writing

              Because we are talking about diets that no longer occur in nature, but in societies.
              Larger human communities exert sub-optimal conditions in many ways, such as being a more significant vector of disease and competing for more area for food, which leads us to agriculture to curb caloric deficits.
              Grain and tubers are starvation food, meaning any human being is going to eat meat over a carb source, if possible.

              One recorded population on Earth that ate many sweet potatoes were the Okinawans post-WW2.
              Okinawans had a very meat-heavy diet (particularly, pork and fish), but when their Japanese overlords took their animals away and the US destroyed their fishing facilities, they resorted to sweet potatoes as their main source of caloric intake to avoid mass-starvation.
              That's why I am calling it a "starvation diet", because the only reason people eat a lot of grains is because they just didn't have access to meats.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But now you're just conflating a forced deficit of animal protein and nutrition as a reason to not eat a medium sized potato as part of a meal. And no one argued against the role the nutrient dense animal foods hold for development when the argument is where the rough approximate balance sits with proportions of different food. I'm not claiming to know everything either but stating where I think the better risks to take are after what I've read and seen, including from people who suffered in the integrity of their flora after following carnivore for half a year to a year. It's not possible to get much more ordered research with it, but all the stories of crippling sensitivities to plant foods raises some alarms, it's something even several of the biggest advocates have admitted to and they just take it as paying the cost and something to endure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When you say that people are "suffering in the integrity of their flora", you're just referring to food sensitivity, right?
                I wouldn't treat this as a good thing or a bad thing. Obviously it will make it harder to eat a diet that you are forced to eat, like when you suddenly can't afford meat, anymore, or if you're forced to eat out with someone at a place that serves vegetables with every meal.
                It will also make it harder to switch back if you just want to eat a normal diet. But it's not a disadvantage for the diet in and of itself.

                I have eaten German cafeteria food my entire childhood, and we've had so much food diversity.
                I've also had to deal with life-long bloating, constipation, acne and brain fog, which subsided after I stopped eating cruciferous vegetables and seed oils, entirely, and I made my own meals.

                I am not even opposed to people eating food for fun or because they can digest it well. I eat plenty of potatoes and noodles myself.
                But I'm always very skeptical when someone tells me that vegetables were a large part of our natural diet before the advent of agriculture, or that vegetables in general are "healthy".
                We've had people go on "fruit diets" when consumption of fruits in general was presented as the key to a healthy lifestyle, and it seems that everyone learned by then that large consumption of fruits is not healthy, at all.
                Now it's vegetables that are taking the toll of what can't be considered a healthy food.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you're just referring to food sensitivity
                No not just stomach aches or cramps or noticeable digestion sensations, but also immune responses and inflammation levels. Like the worsening of a seborrheic dermatitis condition whenever someone eats a certain food even when it's only one bite. That one isn't a big deal but then there's other things like flare ups of joint pain conditions and potential effects of inflammation on overall mood day-to-day. I don't know where the exact line is drawn but there's often a combination of some kind of physical issue with the actual flesh walls of the digestive tract and some kind of struggle in the bacteria and yeast interactions going on, often the two are closely affecting each other. Unga bunga cavemen presumably ate whatever was available and edible when they could and I doubt eating a handful of edible mushroom or plants left them moody and crippled, they would have had on average fairly adaptable strength in their digestion to keep up their energy for survival. Food-triggered immune reactions signals weakness (when talking about fairly simple and normal homecooked food, not processed junk food or fast food)

                From what I read I don't care that much about fibrous vegetables specifically or fruits that much in terms of priority, outside of what they contribute to taste variety and texture. More like, a handful of these fibrous foods shouldn't be stabbing out someone's energy ideally. But starches I think is necessary for upkeep and the ideal amount may vary from person to person, but talking about their regular presence in general

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            And I'm saying you're way too vague about what the word ancestors is even referring to or even why we should care about the 100k years ago ancestors versus our immediate 1000-5000 years ago ancestors. To be blunt I really don't care about any ancestors who weren't able to read and write to some degree and didn't have any written myths yet. I don't see any reason to follow any connections to the low stakes wandering tribes versus the habits of the ones who decided to start building and writing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is such a huge armchair microbiologist post.
            Bro this is exactly what you have been doing this whole thread. Every claim you have made has been an absolute.
            Youre the biggest fricking moron here

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I don't claim that I derive many of the mentioned beliefs from sciences.
              When I drink rotten milk, I spit it out, because it's disgusting, and therfore my body knows it's bad for me. That is not scientific.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you know most people dont think vegetables are icky right? and its not some acquired taste like you claim.
                then youre going on and on about how we had to selective breed plants to make them taste better when we did the same thing with animals. theres a reason we mostly eat beef pork lamb and chicken and not some nasty shit like monkey meat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you know most people dont think vegetables are icky right?
                Most children hate vegetables.
                Raw vegetables are disgusting, so are water-boiled vegetables.
                You usually use a dressing or stir fry them in fat to make them palatable.

                >then youre going on and on about how we had to selective breed plants to make them taste better when we did the same thing with animals.
                Almost all wild mammals can be eaten raw.
                >theres a reason we mostly eat beef pork lamb and chicken
                The only reason we bred them is because some animals are easier to keep around.
                For example, chickens have a strict pecking order which creates a social element that animal husbandry takes advantage of.
                >and not some nasty shit like monkey meat
                You are brainlessly calling monkey meat "nasty shit", when it's seen as a delicacy in many parts of the world.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_meat
                The reason that we don't eat monkey meat in western countries has nothing to do with its taste.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and you are brainlessly making the claim that most kids hate vegetables

                >Almost all wild mammals can be eaten raw.
                you can eat raw plants too, not sure why you even bothered making this point
                also do you know what boar taint is? if you dont cut off a pigs balls the meat will taste like shit, so according to you that means it must be bad for you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >You'll find that the only reason people started moving towards agriculture is because we lived in larger and larger groups that made hunting alone less sustainable.
            This is an outdated narrative and not at all accurate to the anthropological evidence. Agriculture emerged at different points in different cultures and it didn't always or even usually correlate with increase in population.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >or even usually correlate with increase in population.
              Nope, look at the first ancestral cities in the world, and you'll see the importance of agriculture in population growth.
              Agriculturalism was what made us sedentary, in the first place. Pastorialism was a more nomadic pursuit that wouldn't have led to large cities as we know in the fertile crescent.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said, this is based on outdated knowledge - this was our understanding until we found anthropological evidence of sedentary cultures with larger populations which relied on hunting and didn't practice agriculture and nomadic peoples who continued to live in smaller groups and did practice agriculture.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bread and alcohol are two of the earliest human food inventions of all time. should have gone for an easier target like fruit rollups. no way ancient egyptians have those

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        animals drink alcohol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Black person you were born sometime before the 50's

        your "ancestors" definitely grew up watching civilization grow next to the cigar-fields and corn-bourbon patch

        quit kvetching like a sun-burnt israelite - just because we are genetically superior and aren't forced to live off human blood and kosher product you non-kitchen having usurious-vermin

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          dont reply to me, moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            eat shit and live for another 2 weeks before you are permanently shutdown by the community that turned its back on you because of your distasteful conniving and disgraceful attempt to spread mesirah
            you're so smart you allowed yourself to be insulted and offended by someone so low and slovenly like me huh bich nga

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >carnivore diet
    >a steak every single time
    I hate you moronic fricks so much.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's part of what makes me think this diet is just some high level marketing scheme. The fetishization of beef, especially expensive cuts as opposed to cheaper sources of meat for supposed carnivores. How come they never talk about pork or chicken but always steak?

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Even the super-organic, super-grassfed ones that pinky-swear on it?

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We eat too much meat and we should all aim to eat less to almost none (once a week max).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah. As much as self-proclaimed carnivores like to pretend this isn't the case, meat is naturally expensive in terms of energy expenditure and humans' natural diet consists of mostly fruits, vegetables, and mushrooms with some meat.
      There are exceptions like the Inuit, but the average person in a hunter-gatherer society got between 50 and 70 percent of their nutrition from plants.
      The only reason we can afford to eat massive amounts of meat now is because the government props up the meat industry in order to benefit those who grow corn and profit from the animal feed. Even if you go back just to the 1950s, you'd only eat a large amount of meat on special occasions (this is why Thanksgiving turkey and Christmas ham or turkey used to be a big deal).

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is carnivore diet a fricking psy op ?
    Yes, big meat is feeling threatened by the vegetarianchads

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Paleo is the only diet that makes sense for humans.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. the only rule i follow is eating whole food. Anything I eat had to come to the grocery store in it's whole form as a single ingredient. Fruits, veggies, meats, oils, flour, sugar, oils. No 25 ingredient processed "food" that's mostly not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. the only rule i follow is eating whole food. Anything I eat had to come to the grocery store in it's whole form as a single ingredient. Fruits, veggies, meats, oils, flour, sugar, oils. No 25 ingredient processed "food" that's mostly not.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't believe that there are morons here actually shilling for big meat
    >carnivore diet
    The American brain truly is fried from all that propaganda

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >big meat
      yeah that's what I call my DICK

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Keto diet and carnivore diet are the dumbest fricking thing. These people are absolutely fricking moronic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Humans are carnivores

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cute wife, OP

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's literally raw. what da frick.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    its the type of fat, pork and chicken have high omega-6 content so some people avoid em

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I ate a whole head of broccoli today and haven't been able to stop farting and sharting all day long. Straight up shart poops. I think eating like 90% meat should fix this since ii'm eating too many veggies

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore diet makes sense to me. Meat is good for you, it's tasty, and it's filling. Most of the stuff at the grocery store is empty calories and I believe that even the fruits and vegetables at the grocery store are lacking in nutrition because where's the incentive? We all know they genetically modify fruits and vegetables for size, appearance, and likely for taste as well since these variables will sell more product, but will they see increased sales if there's more vitamins/minerals in them? I think not.

    Meat is just one of those things they can't cheat (as much). Eat more meat, it's all you can do to be healthy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We all know they genetically modify fruits and vegetables for size, appearance, and likely for taste as well since these variables will sell more product, but will they see increased sales if there's more vitamins/minerals in them?
      Pretty much all the meat you buy has been bred for the same things. More nutritious foods do have potential customers though. It's just that most people want food to be as cheap as possible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thiis guy thinks he is smart but its laughable how moronic he is

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone who says you should only eat a singe food group is moronic but meat is the most sustainable and realistic

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a psyop. It's just white Americans being moronic and acting like cultureless savages with one dumb pop culture trend after another, because they don't have any traditional dietary habits tried and tested by their ancestors for generations, and instead get all their food culture from corporations and ~~*experts*~~.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You guys mind rating my stek?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      6.7/10

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Going on two weeks of 95% carnivore. Have lost almost 20lbs total. Feel pretty great, the first week was rough getting rid of the sugar cravings and had a lot of midday tiredness. But eventually it went away and I have no desire for it anymore. Made a fat omelet today with some spicy italian sausage, some peppers and some smoked cheddar. Put a bit of cholula on top. It was heaven. Combining it with OMAD and having one filling meal makes it so I barely have to think about food most of the day and I'm never feeling hunger pangs. I think I might actually be able to stick to a diet for once.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i tried it for two weeks, i felt really low energy the whole time, i think i was vitamin c deficient because i was craving oranges and other fruit
    on the other hand, it wasn't as expensive as i thought it might be

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just eat less fatty

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivores are mostly right, but sugar and carbohydrates are not that bad either.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's the true human diet.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn! I accidentally chose the right show with the left foot! That have to be A PSYYYYYYYY OOOOOOPERAAATION(TOO).

    look around if going out. There are psyops around every corner. Not homosexual Op's meal got "PS op'ed".

    Cyber ninjas (maybe flat earthler) from fake outer space now Spyop'd meat.
    The psyoped the deer, beef, pig even before getting grinded to a bunch of shit. They were in theses animals brain, the frick? It's a huge Psy Op.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like a complete bullshit meme for people who think they're going to be alpha wolves or something.
    Like Black person, you could've been a BBQ guy or a "hunt your own meat" guy but you choose to do this reddit tiktok twitter shit

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