The common white button/bella are very neutral, so however you seasoned them that is how they will taste. If you dont, then they taste like nothing. Yo ucan try the uncommon ones when they are in season, but even those need seasoning too to really taste like something.
> they taste like nothing
This is untrue if they are cooked correctly. You should be cooking them like meat, not like vegetables, i.e. searing them off on higher heat with a small amount of butter. You wanna let one side get golden brown with crisp edges before flipping them. If you do it this way, you dont have to add any seasoning at all (besides the salted butter). Many people salt and stir their shrooms and it results in a subpar shroom.
You're not really supposed to eat them raw. I think I heard that mushroom expert Paul Stamets who has a hat made of mushrooms talk about how you should always cook them because they can cause super canceraids if you eat them raw. I'll try to find the relevant information.
i remember that nerd spazzing out about not eating portabella mushrooms and when rogan sasked what thats about he got tight lipped and said hes not at liberty to discuss it. fucking weirdo
Apparently he was referencing the Mushroom Mafia. I'm not even making this up. Stamets was subtly hinting that the people who control the multi-billion dollar mushroom industry would harm him if he publicly suggested that the most widely consumed mushrooms might cause cancer.
Ok, found the relevant info from a article on a site called fixyourgut.com. I'm annoyed that "portobello" is spelled incorrectly every single time
Dear readers, do you enjoy a good conspiracy theory? Well, have I got a good one for you! I have been getting a lot of e-mails about episode #1035 of the Joe Rogan Experience with Paul Stamets. Stamets, a celebrated mushroom expert, warned Joe Rogan about eating raw portabella mushrooms, then suddenly went silent. Here is the excerpt from the podcast:
Paul Stamets: Portabellas have a problem. All mushrooms should be cooked, and portabellas, in particular, should be cooked at high temperatures.
Joe Rogan: Why?
PS: There is an unfortunate group of compounds called agaritines. Agaritines, are hydrazines that are heat unstable, so the good news is, you should cook them, and if you cook them well, then those mushrooms are not a problem. If you don’t cook them well, then these hydrazines are potentially problematic. Now, nature’s a numbers game: so, there are beneficial compounds, that, in some balance, may outweigh the negative effects of the hydrazines, the garatines in these mushrooms, but that jury is still out so to speak.
JR: What are the negative effects of this?
PS: This is an explosive area of conversation, and that puts my life in danger, so I reserve the right not to answer your question.
JR: Woah! I didn’t expect that. It puts your life in danger talking about portabella mushrooms?
PS: [Silence]
was wxactly what i was remembering. i gotta find a yt rabbit hole on the mushroom mafia
Thanks! I totally forgot about that.
page 2 search term mushroom ketchup has the whole deal.
it's a hassle to clean all the dirt off.
not really, usually it just wipes right off. the 5 minutes it takes is well worth it.
Most of the time you can wash off mushrooms just fine, as long as you dry them off after.
>Michael Myers >American folklore
He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore. UFOs or Bigfoot or the Mothman or Skinwalkers is American folklore. And your orange rug, glass plate pasta with cum sauce looks like something straight out of mid 70s Americana.
>He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore.
As a fellow Ameritard, I can say assuredly that you have a deeply flawed understanding of just how subverted our culture is by films and TV.
It's not like Foxfire or anything, but you can't deny that when speaking of contemporary Amerlard culture, when the subject of Halloween,(the holiday,) comes up, Jason voorhees, Micheal Myers, and Freddy Kreuger aren't all vintage mainstays now.
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Anonymous
Pop culture icons generally aren't folklore. Americans don't actually believe that iconic horror movie villians are real life phenomena. That is absurd. No one claims to have seen Michael Myers, Freddy, or Jason in reality outside of films. We have a ton of interesting fear based folklore that isn't related to forty or thirty year old horror movies.
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>We have a ton of interesting fear based folklore that isn't related to forty or thirty year old horror movies.
I agree. you must be an GenXer, because I don't see any new community based folklore coming out like "the Hook" or even bigfoot shit.
Do you think people really believe that the HoopSnake is a real thing?
If we do get a collapse, it will be interesting what kind of Golden Bough-esque folklore comes of it.
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I'm a late 80s millennial. GenXers definitely scared the shit out of my generation by telling us scary folktales they heard as kids. And variations of the hook story persisted well into the 90s all over the country and even into Canada and Mexico. I'm sure the version I heard as a kid is slightly different than the one you grew up with. I think the closest thing we have to those older folktales are the ones spread and perpetuated online like Slenderman and that sort of dumb meme folklore. But they don't have the sort of visceral and almost plausible nature that pre-internet folktales have. The internet and the ability to instantly search for the "truth" killed the kind of folklore we grew up with. Sorry for essay posting, but that dumb Euro on his stupid 1970s orange rug claiming Michael Myers is American folklore bothered the fuck out of me.
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Anonymous
>I'm sure the version I heard as a kid is slightly different than the one you grew up with.
Might not be.. >But they don't have the sort of visceral and almost plausible nature that pre-internet folktales have.
Nothing heightens the senses like a scary story around a campfire in the dark woods miles away from "Civilization"
Problem is...Civilization comes in pockets these days. >Sorry for essay posting, but that dumb Euro on his stupid 1970s orange rug claiming Michael Myers is American folklore bothered the fuck out of me.
No worries, fren. I hope we ALL win soon.
Looking at the other recipes from that page, I suspect it is indeed soy sauce, since there's no mention of salt in the recipe (Mushroom Ketchup specifically mentions salt, and the Pontac Ketchup uses preserved anchovies).
Though if I were to make Leamington Sauce, I'd go for a more heavily salted soy sauce, and a strong (high alcohol) port. The sauce isn't cooked, and garlic is known to contain botulinum spores. You need the salt and alcohol to stop your sauce from becoming Lockjaw Potion.
>Dubba checked
One thing I love about Culinaly...The threads stay up for DAYS.
I promise I'll look into it and post moar pics.
I almost made a whole request thread, (I mean from the book,) this summer, but time just slipped away. >You need the salt and alcohol to stop your sauce from becoming Lockjaw Potion.
Zozzle..I wouldn't doubt there are some VERY dubious recipes for cleaning solutions in there too.
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Anonymous
>Nothing heightens the senses like a scary story around a campfire in the dark woods miles away from "Civilization
While that is true, the last hurrah for American folk horror was the serial killer/child kidnapper hysteria of the 80s and 90s which was firmly based in heavily populated areas. It wasn't without reason, but the hysteria became so prevalent that kids just weren't allowed to play alone outdoors without supervision. The consequences of that sort of parental attitude has been disastrous for the American child.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Facts.
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Anonymous
>I wouldn't doubt there are some VERY dubious recipes for cleaning solutions in there too.
Well now I'm curious.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well, now I'm a shitty promise breaker.
Today went kinda sideways, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
My apologies.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No worries anon. If this thread gets archived, you could always make a vintage recipe one, those tend to get a bit of attention.
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Anonymous
Not trying to be a dick, BTW--I really hope you are right...but I don't see it.
That Pontac Ketchup recipe sounds like a peppery version of cheat wooster sauce.
Also >Leamington Sauce >1/2 pint of soy
I assume that's soy sauce, right?
>I assume that's soy sauce, right?
I would too, but that book is from 1890..something, I'll have to check it tomorrow.
Will post when I find out.
breddy sure you are right though. It's been around before Jesus.
Looking at the other recipes from that page, I suspect it is indeed soy sauce, since there's no mention of salt in the recipe (Mushroom Ketchup specifically mentions salt, and the Pontac Ketchup uses preserved anchovies).
Though if I were to make Leamington Sauce, I'd go for a more heavily salted soy sauce, and a strong (high alcohol) port. The sauce isn't cooked, and garlic is known to contain botulinum spores. You need the salt and alcohol to stop your sauce from becoming Lockjaw Potion.
Ok, found the relevant info from a article on a site called fixyourgut.com. I'm annoyed that "portobello" is spelled incorrectly every single time
Dear readers, do you enjoy a good conspiracy theory? Well, have I got a good one for you! I have been getting a lot of e-mails about episode #1035 of the Joe Rogan Experience with Paul Stamets. Stamets, a celebrated mushroom expert, warned Joe Rogan about eating raw portabella mushrooms, then suddenly went silent. Here is the excerpt from the podcast:
Paul Stamets: Portabellas have a problem. All mushrooms should be cooked, and portabellas, in particular, should be cooked at high temperatures.
Joe Rogan: Why?
PS: There is an unfortunate group of compounds called agaritines. Agaritines, are hydrazines that are heat unstable, so the good news is, you should cook them, and if you cook them well, then those mushrooms are not a problem. If you don’t cook them well, then these hydrazines are potentially problematic. Now, nature’s a numbers game: so, there are beneficial compounds, that, in some balance, may outweigh the negative effects of the hydrazines, the garatines in these mushrooms, but that jury is still out so to speak.
JR: What are the negative effects of this?
PS: This is an explosive area of conversation, and that puts my life in danger, so I reserve the right not to answer your question.
JR: Woah! I didn’t expect that. It puts your life in danger talking about portabella mushrooms?
White caps / button shrooms taste like shit.
I thought I hated mushrooms for the longest time because I didn't know that forest / shitake / etc tasted very different.
i love mushrooms but i'll never forage for my own. i write my mom every time i eat mushrooms just in case some wacky million in one chance happens where i die. she'll check up on me every hour or so after
I've been cooking white button mushrooms a lot lately. I basically just throw them in a pan with olive oil and shuffle them around every few minutes until they're well golden, then finish with a little salt, pepper, and ground sage, and sometimes lemon juice or white wine. They don't seem to ever burn. Very easy to cook.
That looks disgusting. Is that jarred alfredo sauce? It looks like you took this photo in 1976. >that glass plate >the unvacuumed 70s orange Halloween rug >sitting nearly cross-legged on the floor >hairy white man leg
I hope Michael Myers gets you
>Is that jarred alfredo sauce?
It's pasta fried with forest moshrooms (pic rel), onions, garlic hot red pepper powder, soy sauce, and honey topped with sour cream based garlic sauce. >Michael Myers
American folklore is kind of cringe ;_;
>Michael Myers >American folklore
He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore. UFOs or Bigfoot or the Mothman or Skinwalkers is American folklore. And your orange rug, glass plate pasta with cum sauce looks like something straight out of mid 70s Americana.
>He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore.
Stop teasing the thirdie. Every American driving student knows Michael Myers. To be fair it is a pretty cringe prank.
been a vegetarian for many years and mushrooms treated right beat almost every meat substitute. used king trumpets as a pulled mushroom filling and oysters in noodle stir fries, shrooms are amazing
Mushrooms sautéed in butter is absolute God tier food. Throw that in an omelet or on a steak.
My ancestors were mushroom farmers/foragers in Lithuania. I'm the first generation to not pick shrooms. Feels bad man.
I bought dried porcini mushrooms. They smell awful, and they taste a bit weird too. Just a really strong not super pleasant odor. Also, they have some grit in them. I should have washed them before immersing in boiling water.
how the fuck do I get all the dirt out of dried mushrooms? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIRT?
I guess I should get normal dried mushrooms from the farmers market.
>how the fuck do I get all the dirt out of dried mushrooms? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIRT?
They probably didn't clean them well enough before drying. It sometimes happens.
Clean the dried mushrooms well with a stiff-bristled brush before soaking, soak them in cold water (don't boil them), then rinse them again after soaking.
the recipe for risotto said to use the porcini soaking liquid for the risotto - i did - i strained it and put a paper towel on the stainer for good measure but it's still slightly gritty, not overwhemingly so, but not what I wanted
do you really just have to throw out the soaking liquid, or would well-washing the mushrooms THEN adding them to boiling water be better so I can use the water, or is that water going to be fucked with grit too?
Oh but I eat mushrooms almost everyday anon. My favorite has to be ostrich mushrooms, then beech mushrooms and Portobello(if only they werent so damn expensive). Oh and there's always Shiitake of course and its godly Umami stock.
I wish we had more variety though. I'm very curious about Laetiporus, you ever had some?
Am I a tastelet? Mushrooms have a good texture but eating them uncooked they almost taste like nothing. Slightly woody but thats about it.
The common white button/bella are very neutral, so however you seasoned them that is how they will taste. If you dont, then they taste like nothing. Yo ucan try the uncommon ones when they are in season, but even those need seasoning too to really taste like something.
> they taste like nothing
This is untrue if they are cooked correctly. You should be cooking them like meat, not like vegetables, i.e. searing them off on higher heat with a small amount of butter. You wanna let one side get golden brown with crisp edges before flipping them. If you do it this way, you dont have to add any seasoning at all (besides the salted butter). Many people salt and stir their shrooms and it results in a subpar shroom.
You're not really supposed to eat them raw. I think I heard that mushroom expert Paul Stamets who has a hat made of mushrooms talk about how you should always cook them because they can cause super canceraids if you eat them raw. I'll try to find the relevant information.
i remember that nerd spazzing out about not eating portabella mushrooms and when rogan sasked what thats about he got tight lipped and said hes not at liberty to discuss it. fucking weirdo
Apparently he was referencing the Mushroom Mafia. I'm not even making this up. Stamets was subtly hinting that the people who control the multi-billion dollar mushroom industry would harm him if he publicly suggested that the most widely consumed mushrooms might cause cancer.
yeah this
was wxactly what i was remembering. i gotta find a yt rabbit hole on the mushroom mafia
>good texture
Hard disagree. Mushrooms taste fine but their texture is godawful. Like they're the complete inverse of how you've described them.
don’t eat them raw retard
They go bad too fast, and I refuse to not buy on bulk
Try pickling them. Pickled mushrooms are really good, and gravy made with/from pickled mushrooms is really just a whole new level.
time to go full ketchup, anons.
It really is absurdly good.
YES! Please make mushroom ketchup. I've always wanted to but I'm a lazy drunk.
I have already made several batches...
kinda shitty, Culinaly doesn't have archives.
https://archived.moe/ck/
Thanks! I totally forgot about that.
page 2 search term mushroom ketchup has the whole deal.
not really, usually it just wipes right off. the 5 minutes it takes is well worth it.
Most of the time you can wash off mushrooms just fine, as long as you dry them off after.
>He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore.
As a fellow Ameritard, I can say assuredly that you have a deeply flawed understanding of just how subverted our culture is by films and TV.
It's not like Foxfire or anything, but you can't deny that when speaking of contemporary Amerlard culture, when the subject of Halloween,(the holiday,) comes up, Jason voorhees, Micheal Myers, and Freddy Kreuger aren't all vintage mainstays now.
Pop culture icons generally aren't folklore. Americans don't actually believe that iconic horror movie villians are real life phenomena. That is absurd. No one claims to have seen Michael Myers, Freddy, or Jason in reality outside of films. We have a ton of interesting fear based folklore that isn't related to forty or thirty year old horror movies.
>We have a ton of interesting fear based folklore that isn't related to forty or thirty year old horror movies.
I agree. you must be an GenXer, because I don't see any new community based folklore coming out like "the Hook" or even bigfoot shit.
Do you think people really believe that the HoopSnake is a real thing?
If we do get a collapse, it will be interesting what kind of Golden Bough-esque folklore comes of it.
I'm a late 80s millennial. GenXers definitely scared the shit out of my generation by telling us scary folktales they heard as kids. And variations of the hook story persisted well into the 90s all over the country and even into Canada and Mexico. I'm sure the version I heard as a kid is slightly different than the one you grew up with. I think the closest thing we have to those older folktales are the ones spread and perpetuated online like Slenderman and that sort of dumb meme folklore. But they don't have the sort of visceral and almost plausible nature that pre-internet folktales have. The internet and the ability to instantly search for the "truth" killed the kind of folklore we grew up with. Sorry for essay posting, but that dumb Euro on his stupid 1970s orange rug claiming Michael Myers is American folklore bothered the fuck out of me.
>I'm sure the version I heard as a kid is slightly different than the one you grew up with.
Might not be..
>But they don't have the sort of visceral and almost plausible nature that pre-internet folktales have.
Nothing heightens the senses like a scary story around a campfire in the dark woods miles away from "Civilization"
Problem is...Civilization comes in pockets these days.
>Sorry for essay posting, but that dumb Euro on his stupid 1970s orange rug claiming Michael Myers is American folklore bothered the fuck out of me.
No worries, fren. I hope we ALL win soon.
>Dubba checked
One thing I love about Culinaly...The threads stay up for DAYS.
I promise I'll look into it and post moar pics.
I almost made a whole request thread, (I mean from the book,) this summer, but time just slipped away.
>You need the salt and alcohol to stop your sauce from becoming Lockjaw Potion.
Zozzle..I wouldn't doubt there are some VERY dubious recipes for cleaning solutions in there too.
>Nothing heightens the senses like a scary story around a campfire in the dark woods miles away from "Civilization
While that is true, the last hurrah for American folk horror was the serial killer/child kidnapper hysteria of the 80s and 90s which was firmly based in heavily populated areas. It wasn't without reason, but the hysteria became so prevalent that kids just weren't allowed to play alone outdoors without supervision. The consequences of that sort of parental attitude has been disastrous for the American child.
Facts.
>I wouldn't doubt there are some VERY dubious recipes for cleaning solutions in there too.
Well now I'm curious.
Well, now I'm a shitty promise breaker.
Today went kinda sideways, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow.
My apologies.
No worries anon. If this thread gets archived, you could always make a vintage recipe one, those tend to get a bit of attention.
Not trying to be a dick, BTW--I really hope you are right...but I don't see it.
That Pontac Ketchup recipe sounds like a peppery version of cheat wooster sauce.
Also
>Leamington Sauce
>1/2 pint of soy
I assume that's soy sauce, right?
>I assume that's soy sauce, right?
I would too, but that book is from 1890..something, I'll have to check it tomorrow.
Will post when I find out.
breddy sure you are right though. It's been around before Jesus.
Looking at the other recipes from that page, I suspect it is indeed soy sauce, since there's no mention of salt in the recipe (Mushroom Ketchup specifically mentions salt, and the Pontac Ketchup uses preserved anchovies).
Though if I were to make Leamington Sauce, I'd go for a more heavily salted soy sauce, and a strong (high alcohol) port. The sauce isn't cooked, and garlic is known to contain botulinum spores. You need the salt and alcohol to stop your sauce from becoming Lockjaw Potion.
they're expensive and make me fart a lot. They're basically a garnish and unnecessary.
Don’t portobellos give you super dna cancer?
Ok, found the relevant info from a article on a site called fixyourgut.com. I'm annoyed that "portobello" is spelled incorrectly every single time
Dear readers, do you enjoy a good conspiracy theory? Well, have I got a good one for you! I have been getting a lot of e-mails about episode #1035 of the Joe Rogan Experience with Paul Stamets. Stamets, a celebrated mushroom expert, warned Joe Rogan about eating raw portabella mushrooms, then suddenly went silent. Here is the excerpt from the podcast:
Paul Stamets: Portabellas have a problem. All mushrooms should be cooked, and portabellas, in particular, should be cooked at high temperatures.
Joe Rogan: Why?
PS: There is an unfortunate group of compounds called agaritines. Agaritines, are hydrazines that are heat unstable, so the good news is, you should cook them, and if you cook them well, then those mushrooms are not a problem. If you don’t cook them well, then these hydrazines are potentially problematic. Now, nature’s a numbers game: so, there are beneficial compounds, that, in some balance, may outweigh the negative effects of the hydrazines, the garatines in these mushrooms, but that jury is still out so to speak.
JR: What are the negative effects of this?
PS: This is an explosive area of conversation, and that puts my life in danger, so I reserve the right not to answer your question.
JR: Woah! I didn’t expect that. It puts your life in danger talking about portabella mushrooms?
PS: [Silence]
>Paul Stamets
That guy was such an insufferable homosexual
His hat was fire tho. Doesn’t he push some weird mushrooms as a miracle cancer cure?
He sounds like a fun guy.
White caps / button shrooms taste like shit.
I thought I hated mushrooms for the longest time because I didn't know that forest / shitake / etc tasted very different.
i love mushrooms but i'll never forage for my own. i write my mom every time i eat mushrooms just in case some wacky million in one chance happens where i die. she'll check up on me every hour or so after
I've been cooking white button mushrooms a lot lately. I basically just throw them in a pan with olive oil and shuffle them around every few minutes until they're well golden, then finish with a little salt, pepper, and ground sage, and sometimes lemon juice or white wine. They don't seem to ever burn. Very easy to cook.
>Why don't you cook with mushrooms?
I do though ;_;
That looks disgusting. Is that jarred alfredo sauce? It looks like you took this photo in 1976.
>that glass plate
>the unvacuumed 70s orange Halloween rug
>sitting nearly cross-legged on the floor
>hairy white man leg
I hope Michael Myers gets you
>Is that jarred alfredo sauce?
It's pasta fried with forest moshrooms (pic rel), onions, garlic hot red pepper powder, soy sauce, and honey topped with sour cream based garlic sauce.
>Michael Myers
American folklore is kind of cringe ;_;
>Michael Myers
>American folklore
He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore. UFOs or Bigfoot or the Mothman or Skinwalkers is American folklore. And your orange rug, glass plate pasta with cum sauce looks like something straight out of mid 70s Americana.
>He's a fucking horror movie character from the 1970s. He isn't American folklore.
Stop teasing the thirdie. Every American driving student knows Michael Myers. To be fair it is a pretty cringe prank.
>American driving student
lol that's pretty good bait
Nothing feels better than unwinding a big fat bundle of enoki into a soup.
anon I thought your post was going to be lewd
It is.
As a fan of ragouts i use them quite often. Also sauce chasseur is the best sauce.
I buy them and then don't use them until they go bad because my girlfriend doesn't like them
I cook with them all the time.
The results are in: mushrooms are yucky. Hard pass.
I do.
They grow fuzzy before I finish through them as I like them in small portions
it's a hassle to clean all the dirt off.
been a vegetarian for many years and mushrooms treated right beat almost every meat substitute. used king trumpets as a pulled mushroom filling and oysters in noodle stir fries, shrooms are amazing
>has double the flavour of any other mushroom in you're path
Mushrooms sautéed in butter is absolute God tier food. Throw that in an omelet or on a steak.
My ancestors were mushroom farmers/foragers in Lithuania. I'm the first generation to not pick shrooms. Feels bad man.
Also I'm trans if you were wondering
That's sad. Why can't you at least forage as a fun ancestral hobby?
>Why don't you cook with mushrooms?
Because my wife thinks they're gross.
🙁
>can be sun-dried for insanely high vitamin D content, eliminating a whole class of disease
I bought dried porcini mushrooms. They smell awful, and they taste a bit weird too. Just a really strong not super pleasant odor. Also, they have some grit in them. I should have washed them before immersing in boiling water.
Cep (porcini) mushrooms aren't really eaten on their own, they're more of a flavoring, specifically because of their strong aroma.
how the fuck do I get all the dirt out of dried mushrooms? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIRT?
I guess I should get normal dried mushrooms from the farmers market.
>how the fuck do I get all the dirt out of dried mushrooms? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH DIRT?
They probably didn't clean them well enough before drying. It sometimes happens.
Clean the dried mushrooms well with a stiff-bristled brush before soaking, soak them in cold water (don't boil them), then rinse them again after soaking.
Soak them in water. Strain the dirty water out. Be more worried about worms in the dried mushrooms than the dirt though.
the recipe for risotto said to use the porcini soaking liquid for the risotto - i did - i strained it and put a paper towel on the stainer for good measure but it's still slightly gritty, not overwhemingly so, but not what I wanted
do you really just have to throw out the soaking liquid, or would well-washing the mushrooms THEN adding them to boiling water be better so I can use the water, or is that water going to be fucked with grit too?
Oh but I eat mushrooms almost everyday anon. My favorite has to be ostrich mushrooms, then beech mushrooms and Portobello(if only they werent so damn expensive). Oh and there's always Shiitake of course and its godly Umami stock.
I wish we had more variety though. I'm very curious about Laetiporus, you ever had some?