not sure if this better for here or Culinaly
but im looking for something that's:
nutritional
easy to make
low cost
you know how in the Matrix they got that shitty food they eat but it has all the nutrition they need? I guess that's what im kinda looking for, except not really shitty tasting, but I'm mostly primarily interested in it being something I can just eat everyday I guess and low cost
Ape food for zoos
that's a meme
Is it?
It is, but primate kibble should be perfectly fine for humans (also primates) to consume. If anything it's probably more nutritionally dense in terms of vitamins & minerals (which might be why it's up to 8% ash). That said, assuming a 2000 calorie diet (about 1 kg/day) the $55 bag of ape food (not including shipping) is only about 11 days worth of meals meaning that you're spending $5/day to eat animal food. Meanwhile, human food might only cost you less than $15/day if you are someone who cooks large meals and doesn't mind eating leftovers. Even though it's up to a third of the cost of eating human food I would wager that the average (not horrifically autistic) person would want to kill themselves after eating ape kibble for longer than a few days.
Actually, I was apparently looking at a "premium" version of ape kibble. The cheap stuff is $23 for a 25 lb. bag so human food ends up costing up to 6 times more expensive than monkey chow. I still wouldn't do it though because the quality control on pet food is pretty bad. Way worse than human food, which allows up to certain amounts of all kinds of contaminants.
It's called rice
brown or white rice?
pasta is better in terms of not getting diabetes. eating white rice for decades will give you diabetes. If you had to eat rice buy Californian because it has the least heavy metal quantities of US grown rice. Chinese also has heavy metals. I don't know about Mexican but I'd assume bad things.
What about Spain?
I just found some Paella saffron rice blend thing in the pantry and I'm scheming on what to do with it. It just says Product of Spain, no specific info on the ingredients
They're both high in carbs, and will have the same effect in giving you diabetes if you wildly overeat them for every meal. You're an American?
Nice strawman
>Overeating isn't my problem! If I just choose the right calorie-dense foods I can lose weight!
>t. You, a fatty
Rice & beans, a fat of your choice, and a multivitamin.
medieval pottages + bread, if you can get some decent bread (ie not self stable, not full of sugar)
Also most legumes.
Easy chickpea recipe that I make often:
500gr of chickpeas (dry, not canned or any of that shit)
1 onion diced
Dried rosemary (about 2 tbspn)
Dill to taste
2-3 lemons
Olive oil
salt and pepper
One day in advance, wash and put chickpeas in airtight container with water and salt (about 3 pinches) and place in the fridge. Leave at least 12 hrs
Next day: Rinse chickpeas well. Cube onion. Boil 2 liters of water in a pot, once it's boiling drop the rosemary in. Boil for ~5 minutes. Strain and keep the water, this is now delicious rosemary tea that we'll use to give flavour to the chickpeas.
Add everything in a pot, the onion, the chickpeas, the olive oil, the rosemary tea and some salt. You might need to add a bit more water, the water should be about 5cm/2in above the chickpeas. Bring to a boil and then simmer until the chickpeas are soft, about an hour and a half, maybe less.
When the chickpeas are done remove from heat, squeeze those lemons and chop that dill, add salt and pepper to taste
This, but:
Add olive oil (or tahini if you want some creaminess) last with the lemon
Add 3 large carrots to the soup for some easy vitamin A
>only 1 onion for half a kilo 'eas
>no carrots, zucchini or peppers
you must really hate yourself cause plain legumes are depression central
grits
full of minerals, vitamins and a solid amount of protein
absolutely fucktuples given enough water to the point where you can make an entire pot with 200g so if being full is important for you, you will always have something to eat, there's a reason it's considered soldier food
pre-grate tons of vegetables of choice and keep them in the freezer to throw a handful in there while grits boil, let it absorb all available moisture, add a spoonful of butter and red pepper flakes
all in all it takes less than 20 minutes with very little input after the initial cutting of vegetables and is incredibly cheap
the only downside is you'll want to have a nice day 3 days in so personally I'd cut it with shredded chicken and/or fresh vegetables for some texture and taste variation
>grits
groats, I meant groats
as in cracked barley
Posting here since it's kinda on-topic.
I had a thought yesterday, can you grind multi-vitamin pills into dust and just put them into the food you cook?
Or will the heat destroy the vitamins or something?
Most multi-vitamins recommend that you take the pills right before or right after you've eaten but I tend to forget, so is it OK to just put it in the food while I make a large batch of food?
>Or will the heat destroy the vitamins or something?
pretty much, depending on the vitamin. i know vit c is almost entirely destroyed in heat.
Hard to find information about this. Any article talking about "heat sensitive" vitamins is mostly about how vitamins are reduced in vegetables that you cook. Like that it "seeps" into the boiling water. I'm not sure if it's a different matter if you crush vitamin pills into sauce.
1. It will make the food taste terrible
2. The heat will destroy some of the vitamins
3. If you are very invested in simplifying your vitamin intake and only want to eat food and not take pills, consider an unflavored multivitamin protein shake that you can flavor any way you like. I use this and its great
I don't think it has enough quantity to affect taste in for example a sauce, but the heat will probably destroy some stuff to just make it more worthwhile to try and remember to take take the pill.
A multivitamin protein shake sounds interesting but also expensive compared to 0.1 USD per pill.
>affect taste in for example a sauce
Well it would have to be like a big pot of sauce. Its definitely going to ruin like 1/4 cup of sauce if that's what you mean, and at the point where you are eating a small portion of the big pot you dissolved the pill in, you aren't getting a decent amount of the vitamins anyway
the vitamin pills i take taste next to nothing so i don't think it needs to be a very big pot of sauce. i imagine it would be like putting an extra pinch of salt into the sauce and expecting anyone to actually taste the salt difference.
>i imagine
Well you are wrong. They taste like nothing because they are encapsulated in cellulose most likely like most vitamin pills. Crack one in half and press it on your tongue, you'll reconsider
>I can't remember to take 1 pill per day
>But I'll really super definitely remember to incorporate them into my cooking so I can have 1/3 of a vitamin pill each time I visit my slow cooker
I thought it was obvious but you would do this in batch cooking, like when making lunches for the whole week.
So if you just remember it on the 1 cooking day it can't be forgotten in 5-7 eating days.
>I thought it was obvious but you would do this in batch cooking,
Yeah that's why I mentioned a slow cooker, when was the last time you used a slow cooker for a single serving of something? The reason I think this is stupid isn't because I don't understand it.
Try gruel.
You can live almost entirely on potato or sweet potato. Nuke in the microwave for 5 mins, and some cheese and favorite sauce, and you're good to go. Cheap as chips, heyooo
this
potato with cheese and butter
glass of milk
literally everything the body needs
yeah sounds really healthy lmao, you'd have to eat like a fat fuck just to get enough protein.
how about instead of adding a bunch of bitter dryness to your food you just write a sticky note and put it on the plate to plan to put the food on and just take the fucking vitamin
or just eat a balanced diet as we've done for thousands of years you lazy fuck
Make congee, which is basically what that is. Bring around 2 litres of water (or stock) to a rolling boil and add about 200 grams of rice (preferably something like jasmine, wash it first). Stir it once, lower the heat to medium and then cover the pot, leaving a small crack and let it boil for 20 minutes, after which uncover and give it a good whisk to further break up the rice.
Heat to low, season as wanted and you can add whatever proteins and veg you want, preferably thinly sliced so it cooks quickly, and top with scallions, coriander, soy sauce, sesame oil, whatever you want. Versatile and cheap and you can vary it up a lot.
Tl;dr and you're gay and got back to Culinaly with all the other insecure homosexuals.
>oatmeal + cheap protein powder and nuts
>dried pasta with canned tuna, and olive oil
>rice with beans + fried eggs
>lentils with pork sausage stew
>miso soup with canned sardines
all cost under a few bucks, have insanely long shelf life and hit your nutritional macros and protein intake. im sure i could make a dozen more dishes but those are the fiest few that popped into my head
Tofu probably.
Grits.
Oats+whey+frozen blueberries
Zinc+vit D+K2+magnesium
Another good idea is potatoes + onions + hotdogs or any other meat.
Eat with ketchup.
Also lentils. You can mix them with ground beef to double the portion of ground beef in any recipe.
Beans and rice, rotisserie chicken, green veggie of choice.
Salt and pepper, garlic and onion powder are your friends.
Wanna go a little fancier with your rice and beans, check out this recipe. Good on it's own, even better with whatever protien and/or veggies on top.
eggs
Eggs
Brown Rice (higher protein)
Black Beans, onions, beef stock powder or paste, worchestershire sauce, chili powder, those cheap tortillas that are a couple bucks for a huge stack
Lentils, chili or curry powder, onion, broth powder/paste
Add green beans, carrots or tomato to lentils for variety
Oatmeal and Peanut Butter
Fresh fruit
Tofu, egg, ramen, toasted sesame seed oil and ketchup, broth powder
I'm in a red state so supermarkets have to carry vegetarian stuff, but it's not the area where lots of people eat that so tofu is constantly on sale.
$15/day seems like a lot for low cost food. Oh. It just occurred to me that I'm effectively a fucking vegetarian who cooks all his stuff from scratch. I'll buy pork loin every now and then at $2 a pound. No bones in it and it freezes, but i just kinda stopped watching for sales and doing that.
I'm not eating empty carbs or even that much veg, everything except the fruit has protein in it. Every now and then I'll do some chicken liver.
You can live on less than $100 a month on food like this.
>worchestershire
I bet you pronounce it that way as well you fucking hick.
chili con carne
Nutraloaf
>Food may taste better when you're hungry because signals in the brain make you less picky, according to research. Scientists have found that bitter tastes become less offensive to the palate and sweet tastes even more appealing when someone is craving food.
Who asked
Based on the description of the inmates, that information might be useful if you’re ever faced with eating a Nutraloaf.
I wonder how much money was wasted on this "study" to find out that hunger is the best seasoning.
You realize like 90% of these studies are paid for by taxpayer dollars right
That's why it bothers me, man.
If a private company want to waste money of that stupid shit it's no skin off my shoe.
I made nutraloaf once to see what it was like, actually. It's not inedible or even bad tasting. Just incredibly bland.
And I'm guessing that if you're in prison a tasty meal can be the highlight of your day.
Same reason they put snacks in MREs instead of making them as nutritionally efficient as possible.
What weirds me out about the Culinaly guys who eat rice, beans, chicken, and broccoli every day is that they don't seem to even season it. Do they think some Hispanices will rob them of their gains?
When I was down hard and on a tight budget I ate a lot of stews. Cheap cut of meat and any root veggies that are in season/on sale. Easy, healthy, and delicious. And it allows for quite a bit of variation.
Organ meats were cheaper back then and both heart and liver stew very nicely but any kind of cheap cut of meat will do.
I just eat low fat quark with granola in the mornings. Getting in the protein and fibers you need for the day.
Jook
It's asian rice porridge. The base is just rice (cheap) and whatever meat you want. Then you can add whatever veggies you want for nutritional needs. Don't know if it's the cheapest thing possible, but it looks like the matrix goop
I don't know guys I am legit considering the monkey kibble because I really don't want to cook ever again in my life. Someone talk me out of monke meals.