People will really do anything to diet other than portion control. Just eat less.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    of course but that's jack scalfani. God keeps him alive purely for our entertainment.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"God keeps him alive purely for our entertainment"
      >God: "Oh Hell no, I'm trying my hardest to kill him. It's just that it's a lot more difficult than you people realize. I've seen bank safes that weren't as resilient as that man's bowels"

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how about i feel hungry all over your dick? and then buttfrick you

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These people are the problems that solve themselves

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but he refuses to be solved!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They eat themselves into oblivion before overburdening our healthcare system without even saying "thank you"
      >"Solve themselves"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't some idiot 20 something on sport bikes who will remove themselves from societal costs with an acute incident that turns them into a meat crayon. The medical industry is becoming exceedingly efficient at keeping these hamblobs aliveuntil 50 so that they can preach about how their lifestyles are healthy and better, actually.
      >surgeons use livestock meat hooks to perform quadruple bypass on megaobese patients

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a ton of joint and other health issues and would not consider myself healthy but I was still able to do that basic stretch/pose on the right on my first try with no difficulty.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah if you stretch a lot then you'll be flexible but it doesn't help you if your BMI is like 45% and your heart gives out

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if you stretch a lot then you'll be flexible
            This

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I'm "only" 20% bf and one of my knees is fricked at 120kg, I can't imagine how bad some people's are

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so far he's refused to be solved 3 times now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They mostly don't. The average fat person isn't dying until he or she is elderly. He or she will instead just run up a fortune in medical expenses, which the American health system handles as the worst of both worlds by both charging the (insurance having even) patient thounds of dollars AND still costing hundreds of thousands of dollars more that get passed on to everyone else through higher insurance costs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just eat less
      I work in an office and I'm surrounded by fricking idiots who are CONSTANTLY snacking. they literally never let up. consequently I have listen to at least one person chew for my entire fricking shift. there may be a few minutes of silence before I hear a drawer open and some package being opened.
      just fricking STOP EATING, how am I the only person on the planet who is capable of this simple task?

      >solve themselves
      but not before costing tens of hundreds of thousands in medical expenses, clogging up the already strained healthcare system and taking up resources that could be used on people who actually took care of themselves. I fricking wish the problem solved itself.
      I fricking hate fat people so much.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        see

        https://i.imgur.com/2ilPX31.jpeg

        I'm a firm believer that humans REQUIRE steak, eggs, and bacon in order to live optimal lives. Hunger is just your body telling you that one of these things is missing in your diet.

        Obesity can be explained by the human body "searching" for steak, eggs, and bacon but never finding any. Thus it enter a loop where it's permanently hungry 24/7 and people become fat fricks.

        For me personally it feels like I'm torturing myself if I try to eat anything after a few eggs and bacon. Food becomes salt or something for like 5+ hours sometimes. Hell I skip lunch altogether now.

        The modern day food pyramid is a israeli scam.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh sure, the fact that people are hungry constantly means they're not getting any actual nutrition. they're obese yet starved of nutrients because all they eat is bullshit "food" like chips, cookies, snacks, candy, etc and subsist on overprocessed slop.
          I wish they realized all the shit they eat isn't actual food.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not before running up medical bills that get subsidized onto the tax payer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jack EARNED that through his devotion to God you ungrateful millennial. Now pay for another round of ass wiping for him

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh no you have to pay 5 extra dollars a month

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act was a mistake.
        Thanks, Reagan.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god has tried like 6 or 7 times now given jacks history of having a wienertail of botulism, pinkeye, salmonella and strokes on top of that
      he must be unstoppable or something

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        His mom had like four strokes too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick no
      so sick of seeing women who would be beautiful if they just didn't eat too much. people have no self control and need third party intervention

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You're supposed to feel hungry sometimes.
    Once I realized this I lost all the weight I needed to. It's not bad to feel hungry. Just gotta thread the line between hunder and starving so you don't over eat.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hunger is determined by your eating routine. Eat small meals twice a day and before long you won't feel hungry while doing it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >stop eating and before long you'll be a sickly anemic skeleton

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of people don't know what hunger is because they never stop eating. They think having room in their stomach for more food is the same as being hungry.

    "Just eat less" is technically true but doesn't work that well in practice. It's easier to eat less if you have a good diet and you're getting a lot of nutrition. Most people are eating too much high calorie but low nutrition food.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shouldn’t Jack be trying to lose weight…?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He hit a "plateau" after losing about twenty pounds. I personally think he's probably went up and down between 250-300 his entire adult life and that there's no actual change. Plus the salt can't be helping. His brother actually does a carnivore diet and includes organ meats in it, without that I'm amazed Jack doesn't have gout. But then again he probably has no real feeling in his legs or feet anyway

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is losing weight, but very slowly. Like a pound or two a month at best.

      It's actually pretty hard to not lose weight on a carnivore diet. Despite a lot of it being high calorie foods, it's just too heavy to really eat that much of it. It's possible to eat so much that you're still obese, but I think Jack probably cheats on his diet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously not for Jack. A whole rotisserie chicken is like three meals for one person if you're eating reasonable portions

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Losing 1 to 2 pounds a month is pretty normal. I aim for 1 pound a week when I'm cutting and that's considered fast. Anything more starts to stray into unhealthy weightloss territory.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I aim for 1 pound a week
          b***h league stats. i once lost ~40 pounds in 3 weeks with a combination of 3 day fasting, alcohol + coke, and an iron will not to binge when hungover. i don't think i could do it again though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            jeez, and i thought my 40 pounds in 2 months was impressive

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The typical recommendation is 1-2 pounds per week. Especially when you're Jack's age and obese with those health problems, I don't think most doctors would be satisfied if Jack told them he lost 1 pound in a month. Losing 1 pound in a month and being obese means you're still overeating.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he is
      devouring an entire rotisserie chicken for lunch feels like cheating to him, which says all you need to know about that stroked out moron

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If that chicken is from a grocery store it's most likely full of added ingredients that will stop a ketogenic state. I think it's either Costco or Sprouts that has some with only salt and pepper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People with diabetes like Jack literally cannot go into a ketogenic state or they will die.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not even a keto shill but they are different things

        Ketosis is a metabolic process that occurs when the body breaks down fat for energy if it's not getting enough carbohydrates.

        Ketoacidosis, meanwhile, is typically a life-threatening complication of diabetes. It happens when insulin levels drop dangerously low, causing a buildup of ketones and acid in the blood.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's usually not the best chicken either. The Rotisserie chickens would likely be sold first as fresh, and when they reach sell-by date, they become rotisserie. That means they are extremely high in histamine, which is bad news on carnivore diet. There's a reason you never hear carnivore diet people recommending chicken. In moderation, sure. But not a whole goddamn stinky week old supermarket rotisserie chicken, Jack.
      FFS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's usually not the best chicken either. The Rotisserie chickens would likely be sold first as fresh, and when they reach sell-by date, they become rotisserie. That means they are extremely high in histamine, which is bad news on carnivore diet. There's a reason you never hear carnivore diet people recommending chicken. In moderation, sure. But not a whole goddamn stinky week old supermarket rotisserie chicken, Jack.
      FFS

      I work in a grocery store kitchen, we put salt, pepper, paprika, garlic, and onion powder on the chickens.
      The chickens come from Perdue in boxes of 12, we do two boxes a day. If they don't sell that day they get shredded and go into chicken salad, soup, or sold as shredded white/dark meat.
      The quality is kinda funky, especially for size. Some are as small as 1.2lbs some as big as 3.7, they're all $8 anyway.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a firm believer that humans REQUIRE steak, eggs, and bacon in order to live optimal lives. Hunger is just your body telling you that one of these things is missing in your diet.

    Obesity can be explained by the human body "searching" for steak, eggs, and bacon but never finding any. Thus it enter a loop where it's permanently hungry 24/7 and people become fat fricks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post cholesterol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"In myelin, cholesterol inserts into the membrane bilayers to increase myelin viscosity and stabilize myelin lipids and proteins [31]. Myelin cannot be synthesized without cholesterol"

        MAYBE all the FUD around cholesterol was created so people would switch to a diet of grains like goy cattle. Now 50% of americans at best have pre-diabetes. Hmmmmmm.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So "very high," understood. Eat a vegetable

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do I look like I'm poor or some kind grazing animal

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Vegetables, you mean those things SOAKED in pesticides?

            >inb4 "Just blow money on organic veggies like an imbecile bro!".

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Animals are usually eating grains soaked in pesticides too. Unless you're eating organic pastured chicken and pork and grass-fed beef which is unlikely because of how expensive that would be.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WHOAH, it's almost like we genetically modified animals to filter these poisons so when we eat them we only get a fraction of the poison.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We did not genetically modify animals to filter out pesticides.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not directly. It's a byproduct of making them suitable for butchering in less than a year. Because of their artificially low lifespans they don't have any time to accumulate dangerous levels of pesticides in their body and even then most end up in the poison collector known as the liver. As long as you don't eat that there's no need to pay top dollar for cows that live in better luxury than we do. Whatever small amounts of pesticides that do get through is still 100X better than eating leaves soaked in pesticides that a simple rinse in water won't remove.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Liver is one of the most nutritious animal products. I get what you're saying but it doesn't "store" poison more than anything else. Animal fat stores toxic things too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >switch to a diet of grains
          Historically that has been the norm, even for rich gays.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everytime humans did that they became fat fricks with beetus. See egyptians.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >still believing the cholesterol from food meme

        Anon your 15 years beind the times. There is no correlation between dietary cholesterol and the cholesterol in your blood stream.

        Also fun fact, eggs have a compound that lowers cholesterol.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >study brought to you by the same The Science™ that previously said eggs are bad, and will invariably say eggs are bad again in the future

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is entirely true. We were meant to hunt whole animals, and that was the primary portion of our calories.

      Post cholesterol

      High cholesterol comes from all the added salt that people season their meat with. If you just ate the meat normally, then you wouldn't have a problem.

      So "very high," understood. Eat a vegetable

      Do I look like I'm poor or some kind grazing animal

      Vegetables, you mean those things SOAKED in pesticides?

      >inb4 "Just blow money on organic veggies like an imbecile bro!".

      Vegetables are fine in small amounts. While meat should be the primary portion of our calories, we still incorporated greens and grains into our diet. We are omnivores after all. The problem is that we have the concept of food backwards. We look at greens and grains as the bulk, and meat as the side. When it should be meat as the bulk, and greens and grains as the sides.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >While meat should be the primary portion of our calories,
        No, it doesn't have to be.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends on your RDA of 9 essential amino acids. We know that plants are very poor sources of them because they often lack one or another.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you actually want to feel satiated, then yes it does. Avoiding becoming fat with a meat heavy diet is so much easier, because when you eat a small portion, your hunger pangs go away for a long time.
          When you go low meat and high grain, it requires a very high level of mental fortitude to avoid the hunger pangs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If you actually want to feel satiated
            its always fat fricks that claim you need to eat meat to feel full

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As a lifelong skinny guy nearing my 40s I never understood all the talk about feeling full / satiated in general.
              Like why is it the end of the world if you're just... not full? Isn't there any other shit fat people can focus on besides making sure their stomach's at full capacity? Like go watch a TV show or do drugs or something? Shit's weird to me. It's not like if you're less than full it's painful. It's just like "yeah, I could hypothetically eat more and not feel sick."

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/GdnuUfN.png

              As a lifelong skinny guy nearing my 40s I never understood all the talk about feeling full / satiated in general.
              Like why is it the end of the world if you're just... not full? Isn't there any other shit fat people can focus on besides making sure their stomach's at full capacity? Like go watch a TV show or do drugs or something? Shit's weird to me. It's not like if you're less than full it's painful. It's just like "yeah, I could hypothetically eat more and not feel sick."

              I'm not a fat frick. I'm high metab, so I can eat more than most and not gain much weight.
              Feeling "full" is a misnomer. It's more like some deep craving that you feel in your bones. If you don't understand it, then it's difficult to explain to you. But it's like when you need to piss. Sure, you COULD hold it in for another hour or 2 or even longer if you tried. But the feeling of needing to pee is so strong, that you just do it sooner rather than later.

              You can feel full in your belly, and not feel satisfied. Which is why I wanted to avoid the word "full", and use "satiated" instead.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So much this. I know when I've eaten enough mentally, but it feels really fricking good to eat four slices of pizza pie instead of two. I should only eat two, and eating three is okay, but to truly feel happiness inside I have to eat four. That feeling is exactly why I've struggled losing weight my entire adult life. I'll do well for a few months never overeating, then one week of eating until "feeling satisfied" destroys three months of progress instantly and I gain about fifteen pounds in one week. It's so much easier to gain weight then lose it, it's honestly kind of insane. If I wanted to I could gain five pounds today by simply eating three full meals. The only way for me to lose weight is eat one small meal a day. Honestly sometimes I just want to kill myself, I hate skinny frickers with good metabolism so much because they have no clue what it's really like out there for fat people that genuinely aren't happy with their bodies and want to change but find it difficult in the modern world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I noticed I had less desire to overeat once I had some nutritional deficiencies taken care of. I don't need to always eat until my stomach is about to burst anymore. I think an iron deficiency was the main reason for that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I take a multivitamin and probiotics every day and have for years, not sure how relevant that is but I don't feel vitamin deficienct at all. It is an issue with temptation being everywhere and a deep satisfaction that can only be scratched by overeating.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some forms of vitamins aren't absorbed very well so you could still be deficient despite taking them. Like a lot of people can't absorb B vitamins unless they're methylated. Beta carotene isn't that useful for vitamin A. Forms of iron other than bisglycinate aren't absorbed as well.

                Have you tried eating more salads or something? Vegetables have almost no calories so you can pretty much eat as much as you want. I add a bit of cheese and nuts to at least make it seem more substantial but overall it still doesn't have a lot of calories.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're my new favorite schizo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up chud, the people who tell us to eat 11 servings of grains a day said those things are bad. Trust the experts!!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is exactly (sans some parsley and garlic in the butter) how my dinner looked every day for 6 months a couple of years ago and it was the best I ever felt, I lost a lot of weight and pretty much never felt hungry and I only ate once a day, sometimes with a day or two of fasting in between

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But steak and bacon are some of the least nutrient-dense animal foods, not to mention the methionine content of steak or the polyunsaturated fat content of bacon. You guys would sound a lot less moronic if you'd recommend a diet based around healthy animal foods rather than meme slop like steak and bacon.

      >switch to a diet of grains
      Historically that has been the norm, even for rich gays.

      >Historically that has been the norm
      Anatomically modern humans have existed for around 300,000 years, while agriculture emerged less than 10,000 years ago. "Historically", for 97% of the existence of the human race, grains were not part of our diet in any significant amounts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >steak
        >least nutrient-dense animal foods
        You're fricking moronic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You cannot be a carnivore and eat nothing but muscle meat. You need liver and heart, and sometimes offal. Unless you like pooping once every two weeks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      amen brother

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Preach

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BASED

    Eating rotisserie chicken for Sunday lunch/dinner is tradition in France.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but they probably aren't eating nothing but the chicken.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And probably not one whole chicken per-person in a single sitting

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how to say you know nothing about weight problems without saying it.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People will really do anything to diet other than portion control. Just eat less. You're supposed to feel hungry sometimes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GOT IM

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No point stating obvious facts to the gremlins of this board. People will blame anything for their poor decisions.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dumbfricks would rather shoot themselves up with Ozempic, but what the hell - it DOES work. I've heard that suicidal depression and a non-functional stomach are great, for weight loss.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how old is Jack? and what is his stroke count?

    i think he can't have much longer left..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The modern American healthcare system is the definition of "horrors beyond your comprehension." He'll live to 75+ as a vegetable for harvest.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t mind the hunger but the headache is annoying.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This for sure. I can deal with the pains and the empty feelings but the light-headed ness, headaches, and inability to focus on anything is the real killer, especially the last one cause I can't even distract myself with some other activity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This for sure. I can deal with the pains and the empty feelings but the light-headed ness, headaches, and inability to focus on anything is the real killer, especially the last one cause I can't even distract myself with some other activity.

      >headaches, nausea, lightheadedness, inability to focus after not eating for a short period
      You have diabetes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please say sike.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat frick here. This is the strategy that got me from 380 pounds to 250 and still losing. This example assumes you are on a midnight to 8 sleep schedule
    Step 1: skip breakfast. A few light snacks through the day (e.g. crackers, raw vegetables, pickles) to stay satiated
    Step 2. Eat lunch around 5 or 6 PM. Make something that that you can get completely stuffed on by only consuming around 500 calories (e.g. brothy soups, salads, shakshuka)
    Step 3: Eat dinner around 9 or 10 PM. It can be whatever the frick you want because you're still kinda full from lunch so you'll be stuffed again well before reaching your break even calorie point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how much loose skin do you have?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's easier to just trick morons into eating a meme diet than it is to just tell them to eat less

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are we REALLY supposed to eat plants though? When you stop and think about it humans didn't have access to things like potatoes/corn/soy/wheat because they're genetic abberations of nature we engineered. In other words these things did not exist for most of human history.

      Are these things really SAFE AND EFFECTIVE (tm)?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >these crops never existed until humans literally just conjured them out of nothing
        I doubt that's what you meant but it's effectively what you wrote. Proofread your posts, knucklehead

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tbh eating nothing but chicken and broccoli will make you strong and lean regardless of portions. It's basically impossible to get fat off it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is entirely possible, and probable, to get fat when your lunch consists of an entire 1500+ calorie roast chicken

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The human body is not a bomb calorimeter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your meme diet does not defeat the laws of thermodynamics

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do cars violate the laws of thermodynamics when their mileage varies?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon and I used to argue like this against anti-CICO schizos all the time.
            I still think it's mostly true, but I tried the (real / ketosis blood tested, not the meme eat lots of bacon kind) ketogenic diet to control an inflammatory condition a little while back. And while I can confidently say keto diet sucks for controlling inflammation and is probably only useful for inflammation in the context of intractable childhood epilepsy, what I did discover as an unwanted side effect is my weight kept dropping (I'm not overweight and actually close to underweight, making this side effect pretty bad).
            I think getting calories through ketosis is maybe less efficient or something. Though even when I increased to 3000+ calories a day I still couldn't keep my weight over 150 lbs. Didn't matter to me anyway since that diet was a complete failure for lowering inflammation, but I now do believe keto dieting probably would help a lot for fat people who feel the need to consume ridiculously excessive amounts like 3000 calories in a day.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fat people eat past the point of satiation because of mental issues/trauma. In Jack's case, it is childhood food insecurity. The man can eat a sandwich in like four bites because he HAD to, he had to fight for whatever food he could get by his own admission. He needs therapy not a meme diet

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ehh, I was raised by loving parents in a securely middle-class home and I'm still obese

                Eating just feels good, just like how I fap three times a day because cooming feels good

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You associate the love of your parents with the food they gave you in tandem with their love for you. Learn to disconnect the two.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1500 calories is not a surplus. With ketogenic diets you're supposed to fill up on enough uncured, unsweetened meat and proteins to the point where you're too full to eat more than would be your surplus.

        For example, if you're a fat shit at 350lbs standing at 5ft 9in at age 40 then you'd have to eat more than 2900 calories of chicken or other meat to get fatter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think the point is that if Jack is eating a 1500 calorie lunch, it's unlikely he's splitting 500 calories between breakfast and dinner. That's why he's mostly maintaining his obesity despite following this diet because he's still just eating too much.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >With ketogenic diets you're supposed to fill up on enough uncured, unsweetened meat and proteins to the point where you're too full to eat more than would be your surplus.
          I'm pretty sure this is wrong. The idea behind keto is that your body has a much harder time storing fat when you aren't eating carbohydrates, plus your body is more likely to "waste" energy when running on fat as opposed to glucose. Feel free to double check me on these points:
          >Insulin is needed to store fat
          >Fat, protein, and carbohydrates trigger different levels of insulin release, with carbohydrates being the highest
          >Insulin inhibits hormone sensitive lypase, the enzyme which is needed for fat to leave your fat cells
          >Your body burns more energy when running on fat than running on glucose (also applies while fasting)
          >Storing protein as fat first requires it to be converted into carbohydrate, then converted into fat, a process which takes a lot of energy in of itself
          >Per calorie, fats and proteins tend to be more filling than carbs so even when food is unrestricted you'll naturally eat less of them than you would if carbs were involved
          The science and ideas behind keto are solid and proven. Whether fatties do it right is another question. And this is before delving into the topic of insulin resistance (see: the beetus) which inhibits HSL further and prevents access to stored fat even more.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Per calorie, fats and proteins tend to be more filling than carbs so even when food is unrestricted you'll naturally eat less of them than you would if carbs were involved
            I think this is all that really matters. Plus keto kind of forcing you to cut out a lot of junk food. Everyone I know who did keto was previously consuming a lot of soda, chips, cookies, etc. Keto works because it's satiating and forces you to cut out junk food.

            When they got to a healthy weight they started eating fruit and whole grains and stuff and seemed fine with that though. They just learned to avoid junk food and that carbs aren't inherently bad.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The science and ideas behind keto are solid and proven.
            If this were true, there would be examples of people who have 'done keto right'. There are no such people.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If keto worked the pharmaceutical and medical industries would have every reason to convince you that it didn't. Sorta like how fasting is known to help treat or even reverse cancer but lots of money is spent making sure nobody knows that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the cure to cancer is starving yourself to death
                hahahahahaha

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your body has two states: anabolic and catabolic. One is you building yourself up, the other is you breaking yourself down. Anabolic steroids force your body into mega anabolism, that's why they work. Catabolism is interesting because your body begins to eat itself in a process called autophagy, but your body isn't stupid and goes after old, damaged, unused, or malfunctioning cells first. It's basically your body cleaning itself out. Your body knows that cancerous cells are bad, but if you spend too much time in an anabolic state you can't clean them out.

                But again we come back to the problem of money. If the best treatment to cancer was completely free, who would fund the research? Who would stand to gain from it?

                And please, fasting is not "starving yourself". You don't need to eat anywhere near as often as you, you've just trained your body to expect food constantly so it whines when you don't eat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Your body knows that cancerous cells are bad
                This is why famously the body’s immune system kicks into gear to destroy cancer cells.

                Oh wait.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It can't kick in and deal with it because constant anabolism inhibits it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, according to (you), no keto = no immune system. Gotcha.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're just a bad troll at this point. Go get a false positive cancer diagnosis from an Indian doctor and take a treatment known to cause actual cancer within 5 years you dumbass.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Enjoy your homeopathy. RIP.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your body DOES combat cancer cells. It’s when your immune system gets overworked and overwhelmed that cancer really takes hold.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the cure to cancer is starving yourself to death
                hahahahahaha

                Your body has two states: anabolic and catabolic. One is you building yourself up, the other is you breaking yourself down. Anabolic steroids force your body into mega anabolism, that's why they work. Catabolism is interesting because your body begins to eat itself in a process called autophagy, but your body isn't stupid and goes after old, damaged, unused, or malfunctioning cells first. It's basically your body cleaning itself out. Your body knows that cancerous cells are bad, but if you spend too much time in an anabolic state you can't clean them out.

                But again we come back to the problem of money. If the best treatment to cancer was completely free, who would fund the research? Who would stand to gain from it?

                And please, fasting is not "starving yourself". You don't need to eat anywhere near as often as you, you've just trained your body to expect food constantly so it whines when you don't eat.

                The cancer thing gets really weird when you find out that ketones seem are poisonous to cancer cells. So going into ketosis seems to bring about the greatest reduction in cancer cells.

                In other words high carb diets might directly cause cancer...

                Frick that's weird.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So going into ketosis seems to bring about the greatest reduction in cancer cells
                No shit. Healthy cells can work around the fact that your body has zero carbs diet. Cancer cells? Not quite. They just starve to death.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt it's that effective on cancer. If it were some researchers would have published a paper already and received their fame for curing cancer. I don't care what conspiracy theory pharmaceutical suppression idea you or others think would prevent that. No fricking way would you not see at least one out of a million researchers grabbing a bunch of intractable cancer patients, curing them with a ketogenic diet, and enjoying the fame and money of becoming the modern Louis Pasteur.
                It might help a little with starving cancer cells but definitely won't be 100% effective at clearing most already active cancer cases.
                I got memed into trying the ketogenic diet a little while back as a way to eliminate inflammation and I can tell you that's one area of hype for it that isn't true. Probably the cancer fighting part is mostly hype too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just googled it. Turns out that the whole "ketogenic diet" thing works only for certain types of cancer. I suppose, some cancer cells are able to not rely on carbs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I-It didn’t work for you because you had the wrong cancer!
                >It’s totally settled science that it works!
                >You would have gotten better if you had a different cancer and you just believed harder!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this is what happens when morons get their information from food bloggers
                Cancer cells do not feed on "carbs", they feed on glucose. There is no diet that will remove glucose from your body; you would die without it. Your body does obtain glucose from carbohydrates but if they're absent, it will synthesize it from protein. Unless your diet is 100% fat, you have more than enough glucose production to feed cancers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The science and ideas behind keto are solid and proven. Whether fatties do it right is another question.
            Agreed. The common impression is "frick yeah, it's bacon and burger tiem!" Of course, it turns out they're doing it wrong by eating cheap, cured grocery store bacon and cold cuts containing sugar, hfcs, and dextrose. And also topping off their burger patties with "processed cheese product" and ketchup without looking at those ingredients.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lottttttta people ITT going to be having colon cancer in ~30 years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. All the vegetables/fruits people are eating have been SOAKED with pesticides. We've known for a while that pesticides cause cancer over time yet we haven't banned their use yet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Colon cancer is more attributable to the massive increase in dairy consumption in recent decades

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe in whatever shithole country you live in.

          Think about it this way: cancer isn't contagious. If animals get sick from eating plants soaked in pesticides, you evade most of it when you eat their flesh because their liver filters them (why eating organ meat is le bad).

          Of course they're going to try to cover this collosal disaster up. Corn/wheat/rice/soy farmers have every monetary incentive to keep feeding people poisons. No refunds.

          https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/10/behind-worrying-rise-cancer-diagnoses-young-people-20620175/

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >author is an adult that unironically uses the phrase ‘pee or poo’
            Opinion piece discarded

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you didn't even fricking read the article did you? lmao
            >There’s some evidence that a high-fat diet might increase our risk of getting cancer, and several studies have found a link between eating a lot of processed meat, such as ham or bacon, and bowel cancer.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >some

              That's what I'm talking about. Farmers are going to do everything in their power to protect their cash crops. They HAVE to fund bullshit "studies" framing meat/fat as the "true" evil.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Farmers are going to do everything in their power to protect their cash crops. They HAVE to fund bullshit "studies" framing meat/fat as the "true" evil.
                i need some of that good copium that you're on.

                you're getting colon cancer by the time you're 50. just accept it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe in whatever shithole country you live in.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ban pesticides
        >Crops get ruined by pests
        >"WTF HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ahh the ol reddit switcharoo

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking idiot had a stroke while waiting to be seated in Cheesecake Factory.
    Frick his advice.
    Kek.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cheesecake factory, is that near the ol' Spaghetti factory?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would feel guilty because I consumed a bird that was once walking around and pecking at shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not even that nutritious compared to steak, it's more of a poorgay meat especially given how little fat they have.

      It's possible that it's actually fat that makes you feel full. Might be anectodal but I feel like I have an easier time eating a 2 pound bird all by myself compared to a 1 pound steak. The fat from the latter seems to satiate me more. We sure do love fried chicken...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dark meat with skin has a good amount of fat. Equivalent to like 80/20 beef. It's mostly the breast even with skin that's still pretty lean, but that's only because we've bred them to be that way.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based Jack. Literally unafraid of dying. Doing what he loves and eating how he wants with the time he has left. Living the way he wants while being unfazed by the trolls.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but it's a painful way to live and go.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "supposed", who said that. Are you also 'supposed' to feel thirst from time to time?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah kinda. That's your body letting you know you need to drink something. The people who say you need to drink before you get thirsty don't realize that doing that might just be flushing electrolytes out of your system. It wouldn't make sense for your body to tell you that you need to drink something if you've already become dehydrated.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The people who say you need to drink before you get thirsty don't realize that doing that might just be flushing electrolytes out of your system.
        that only becomes a concern when you're drinking gallons/day. also given that the average american overloads on sodium, this wouldn't hurt. a good rule of thumb is take your body weight in pounds and drink that in oz of water; most people do not come close at all to that. becomes worse when you drink diuretics like soda and coffee.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A good rule of thumb is to just drink when you're thirsty. Your body evolved to tell you when it needs fluids. If someone has soup and salad for lunch they're going to need to drink less water than someone who had a sandwich and chips. So setting a rule like this isn't really that useful because there are too many factors to take into account. Your body takes these things into account by telling you when to drink something. If your pee is clear and you're not thirsty there's probably no point in continuing to drink more fluid out of fear of dehydration.

          It's like telling someone if they feel hungry that they're already starving. That's not really how it works.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >whole rotisserie chicken
    That's ~2-3 lbs of meat
    Could be worse, far worse, but I hate how ketolards think that they can an eat an infinite amount of food as long as there are no evil carbohydrates

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ex obese person here
    Please keep up those threads it actually helps me skipping meals.
    This ain't a joke I am seriously thankful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hint. Make an alarm on your smartphone every 3 hour, saying: "Don't eat now, even if we want to. We can make it."

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people snack? Like, genuine question. Are people scared of feeling hungry? Just wait until dinner.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the food they eat doesn't actually provide much nourishment. Instead it causes their blood sugar levels to spike and then drop too low. The latter makes them feel like shit and the only immediate "solution" that they found works is to shove sugar down their gullet to get them out of that low blood sugar level.

      It's a vicious cycle.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Replacing glucose by ketone bodies requires that the tumors have functional mitochondria to be able to use ketone bodies efficiently for growth
    So it's a coin-flip. If they have working mitochondria, you are royally fricked.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, cancer can basically be or do anything regular human cells can be or do (some cancerous tumors even grow little organs like eyes or teeth).
      That's why cancer is so difficult to deal with. It's effectively a fight against your own body.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why can't we just create macrophage who everything that doesn't fall into certain criteria? Like, if it's not good enough, it will get decimated.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          companies are trying to do shit with bacteriophages but, you know, it's kinda hard to do this shit at a molecular level

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe they should invest more money into this instead of gender studies, then.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ofc the incel is obsessed with politics

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          People have tried all sorts of shit like that.
          Some of it can work some of the time on some sorts of cancers but you're probably never going to get a method that magically clears any and all kinds of cancer perfectly without exception. Cancer cells are too close to regular cells and there are too many different kinds of it.
          You also get some really bad unintended side effects sometimes. Like the way the perfect mouse model for inflammatory bowel disease was discovered was by trying to give mice suped up immune systems that would prevent cancer.
          And inflammatory bowel disease is about as bad as getting cancer anyway. It usually doesn't kill you so maybe that's an advantage. But you probably aren't going to have a good time constantly puking and having a literal 30 to 40 blood filled diarrhea bowel movements daily as your immune system tears apart your intestines.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cancer cells isn't just one thing, but if we put more monet into T-cells we might fight it of.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >some cancerous tumors even grow little organs like eyes or teeth).
        I need to see this

        Why can't we just create macrophage who everything that doesn't fall into certain criteria? Like, if it's not good enough, it will get decimated.

        Yes, viral oncology is a real thing and it's cool in theory.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not gonna gorepost on the food and cooking board but if you want to see that shit it's called "teratoma" when a tumor grows its own new instances of human tissue like little eyes or teeth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not gonna gorepost on the food and cooking board
            first time in a jack thread?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't say you can't gorepost on Culinaly.
              Just that I choose not to.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Culinaly thanks you for your restraint
                you're a better man than me

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >teratoma
            Awesome. Like horrifying but cool at the same time. Terrific in all senses of the word.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just skip breakfast and lunch

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >jack thread
    >128 posts
    >not one jack webm
    lucky i got here when i did

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based jack poster

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cheers
        have an egg

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People will really do anything to diet other than portion control
    People keep asking me how I lose weight so quickly whenever I cut, and I have given up on trying to teach them for that specific reason.
    They just want some convoluted cheat code that lets them pig out, even if it means they have to go for the most bizarre meal plans.
    If you tell them to just eat the same but less, they act as if you killed their firstborn.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more jack?
    i've got dozens of these

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i've got dozens of these
      You have a bunch of the exact same jack webms that have been endlessly reposted for the past decade? Wow anon incredible, I guess it's finally your turn to be the person to post
      >jack puts cheese in the shredder and it falls apart
      for the millionth time. Nobody's ever seen that one before!

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never thought watching one man make multiple attempts to off himself could cause me to feel more frustration than sadness

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    obj

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grim. I really hope this isn't real but you never know with him.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's worse now. He hasn't walked in over a year

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He used to have RIPPED legs, so if he keeps up with it he'll get back in shape again pretty quickly.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Already gave up posting carnivore numbers and talked about cheating
        Jej

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've read that a lot of heavy people actually have really strong legs because it's like a constant workout carrying around all that extra weight.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, there are a lot of fatties out there with fat bellies and torsos, but skinny chicken legs. Genetically, that's how some people fill out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That and chronic drinking builds up your visceral fat real quick

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was 80kg at 5'9 when I was 12 but I never got the fat frick calves (my legs are also comically short and small) so some people just never do. I just have chicken legs genetically (at least the lower half, they look like one of those 3-panel cartoon flip books where you mismatch the panels for comedy). I'm to this day comically disproportionate and somehow look short at 6'2, so it just happens sometimes

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will our hero Jack survive 2024?
    Personally I'd like to see him try aging beef, he'd eat fistfulls of mold

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every Jack video is a reminder of how shitty the South is now

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've eaten about 4k calories pretty much every day since I was 15 without gaining a pound, now I'm 30 and my metabolism has slowly started to drop the last few years, and I've steadily been gaining weight since 2019.
    It's very difficult for me to stop eating so much when I've been doing it for literally years.
    I'll do well for about a month, then I'm right back to stuffing my face.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't eat after 7PM and go to bed at a reasonable time like 8PM, you'll do fine.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly eating a whole rotisserie chicken isn't that much.
    They don't use the big chickens for those.

    Half a chicken is a standard portion at Medieval Times (or at least it was last time I went, ~20 years ago) and that comes with soup and bread!

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You could do a lot worse to be honest. What is that like 1200 calories? The thing is he probably drenched it in ranch and or washed it down with copious amounts of soda

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's so over.

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