I have been considering purchasing a donabe over christmas, would that be a good idea? Or would i get the same out of a regular pot?
Redpill me on donabe
I have been considering purchasing a donabe over christmas, would that be a good idea? Or would i get the same out of a regular pot?
>dutch oven
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>dutch oven, japan
:O
can you bake bread in it
you can bake bread in both. a donabe is literally just a small and fragile dutch oven.
What is this? Some kind of rice cooking machine?
This but unironically and enthusiastically. Every time I get something from Japan, it is nice.
A clay pot made in Japan. Some are specifically designed to cook rice in.
They cook the best short grain rice. It is a fact.
Yes. That exact one makes excellent rice. The kamado-san donabe. 3 go(1go=3/4 cup) size is good for 2-3 people, and is sort of the standard size I recommend.
If hot pot dishes where you add meat and veggies to rice sounds like a good meal they work great for that.
If you love short grain rice it is the absolute best way to cook rice. Better than a metal pot.
Last thing is they should only be used on gas burners.
This sounds great, and i think it looks nice as well. What would happen if i were to use this on an induction stove? I dont have gas U_U
If you're being serious, induction burners only work with magnetic materials, which a clay pot is not.
No. You can get a little gas burner to use with it. That's what I do. The gas cans aren't too expensive.
You have never had rice made in a donabe before. Why even speak up?
you are retarded, millions of people have claypot rice, me included, all the time, except they don't call it a dOnAbE. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that demanding and long means better.
Are you stupid? He is asking specifically about a donabe. Changing the goalposts and saying stupid things does not make you correct. Lol.
You have never had rice made in a donabe. I was right! Hahaha.
here you guys go, the final solution for rice, cooks it better than any artisan clay pot or stove monkey ever could
No it doesnt, dummy. I have the best zoji rice cooker imported from Japan and my donabe cooks short grain rice better.
Why open your mouth when you have no clue what you're talking about?
And yes I know it is dirty.
>my donabe cooks short grain rice better.
no it doesn't
You have already proven you have no clue what you're talking about. Closing your eyes and squealing NO does not change that.
you are the one closing your eyes and imagining a clay pot on a fire could possibly cook rice better than an advanced computer that's only job is to perfect rice. you're only trying to justify your $200 clay pot purchase because you're a weeb and it's "traditional."
I spent 1k on a rice cooker, dumb fuck. My donabe was like 450, and it does a better job at making the rice.
Picture of very high quality short grain rice made in my cooker.
>I spent 1k on a rice cooker
that's exactly why no one should listen to what you have to say. only someone who falls for memes would import a 1k dollar rice cooker from japan, and only a weeb would decide that their $1k rice cooker still isn't enough and shell out $450 for a clay pot that does it worse but is "le japanese"
Changing goal posts like the dumbass you are. I did not buy the rice cooker because it is made in Japan. I bought the rice cooker and donabe because they cook rice the best. You Japan obsessed dweebs squeal weeb whenever anyone utters the word Japan and it really shows how obsessed you are with the country.
i'm not the one who got scammed by some con artist selling a pot I could make with the clay in my back yard
no way you spent 1k on a fucking rice cooker lmao all of them literally do the same thing
he spent 1k on a rice cooker AND THEN bought a $450 meme pot lmao. i swear being a weeb is a mental illness.
Yep. I wanted to make world class rice, and I achieved my goal. I found sources for the absolute best and freshest rice, the best cooking vessels for said rice, and figured out the exact process for making that rice to its fullest potential.
You think I was happy that my expensive rice cooker was defeated by a simple clay pot?
jesus fuck youre insufferable and this board already sets a high bar
Cool opinion. Im sure everyone on twitter would love to hear it. You have an argument now? How about you post some rice you've made if you know what you're talking about?
what do you make with your rice?
he's gonna say something gay like "I prefer my rice unsullied by other ingredients, in it's pure form, virgin and plain."
Claypot dishes like(
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chicken thighs, steak, shiitake mushrooms, sometimes just pickled veggies. Lots of different things.
One place where a donabe truly excels is preparing short grain rice for sushi. I have sushi nights with my friends once or twice a month, and have gotten reasonably good at making nigiri. It's harder than it looks to get the proportions and small details right. Everyone I have shared my rice with is amazed at how good it is. 🙂
I'd like to try some of your rice. What is your address?
I'll be at your mom's house tommorow evening. I'll bring my donabe and rice if you want to stop by. Dinner should be ready around 8.
im not the person youve been replying to and i dont give a shit about your rice or this thread i just had to let you know youre an insufferable cunt
Get back to twitter.
youre really stuck on this twitter thing
Youre really stuck on this your uninformed opinion matters thing
again, i do not care about your rice. im sure its great
Cool. Thank you. It is.
I gotta stand my ground. Try talking about something you're highly knowledgeable about on here. The amount of overly vocal know nothings is astounding. I give back what I get. If anyone cared enough to ask me questions about rice I am more than happy to help. Observe my first post
Wrong. Can you tell me why people who do not know what they're talking about feel the need to open their mouths? Is it because you're twitter brained?
Extreme cope. You are sounding stupider and stupider woth every post. Go ahead, post rice.
let me guess, you're the handmade gyuto kouichi guy
I am shig anon, aka the rice autist, aka donabechad.
All the losers and nobodies will laugh, but you can't knock my passion and desire to produce something great.
Similarly high quality rice cooked in my donabe.
Look at how each grain of rice is glossy, but not wet looking. The grain has not burst like in the rice cooker rice. Objectively better rice.
The other thing that you do not understand is that a donabe allows you exact control over every aspect of cooking rice. The best short grain rice does not cook well in a rice cooker because it needs precise control over soak time, cook time, water ratio. The effect of a thick walled ceramic cooks the rice more gently, and the way heat convection moves the rice in a donabe is superior to a rice cooker.
nah lol, you just got scammed bud
This is cope. You can't even address a single thing I'm saying. It's okay to be wrong, bud. Maybe you could learn something if you put your ego aside and listened to someone who clearly knows more than you.
Yes lol. It is important to use filtered water, and normally I charcoal filter my water before cooking rice. This time I forgot, so I put the piece of charcoal in the cooker along with the rice. Works almost as well.
does the stick make it sticky rice?
I just put in equal amounts of rice and water in the instant pot and 15 minutes later it's done perfect every time. Cooking rice is not hard anything can do it.
Making perfectly edible rice is not difficult. Cooking extremely high quality rice to its fullest potential took me some time to learn.
Many many people will tell you that instant pot rice is not good also.
spend $200 on an artisanal claypot that has to be babied for rice that blindfolded, people couldn't tell from a rice cooker.
It's a very niche tool that will likely result in a better end product when used to make traditional Japanese meals that require a donabe.
Is it worth it? Do you need it?
You should get it if you already have other pots or a Dutch oven and want something more niche
I wonder if one could recreate this at home
Yes you can. Both in a donabe and rice cooker, but it will not make the crispy bottom, which adds flavor, aroma, and texture to the final dish.
I think you could do it like that but with much better crust if you used a carbon steel pan. it reminded me of this alex video where he basically did the same thing with paella.
you'd just have to leave out the saffron and do it asian style instead. either by cooking the rice in stock or like in the first video. the main goal is the same. that crispy rice at the bottom. I wouldn't be surprised if carbon steel pans were actually better than clay pots because the much bigger bottom means more socarrat
If all you were going for was maximum crispy bottom, yes, but I don't think it's the right balance for asian style clay pot dishes. I also think that steaming the contents plays a role for the asian version.
Would be pretty interesting to try an asian style paella.
I was thinking about a smaller 20cm-24cm carbon steel pan with a lid to steam the meat. there are tall carbon steel pans as well so you could add more rice if you wanted more white rice and less socarrat
But then you're just replacing a donabe with a cs pan. A good donabe has extreme heat retention. Think mine is over 1 cm thick all around.
To make a good crust using a donabe you just give it an extra minute or two on low.
10 mins high, 10 mins low, 10 mins heat off rest. For crust you would do like 12-14 mins on low.
>A good donabe has extreme heat retention. Think mine is over 1 cm thick all around
carbon steel pans are 2.5mm to 3mm thick and retain heat very well. I don't think you need any more than this for clay pot rice. what for? it works perfectly for paella
The gentle swings in temperature are good for cooking short grain rice. It also keeps the rice hot for a very long time.
I have a tank-like 24cm stainless steel pan that is over 5mm thick all around and has perfect heat retention and distribution. Now I'm curious how pot rice would turn out in that but I have a feeling it would take a ton of practice to get it right without sticking
A thin layer will usually be somewhat crispy at the bottom of donabe cooked rice, and it is kinda stuck to the bottom.
I bet it would work well if your lid is good.
Lemme know if you want my short grain recipe recipe perfectly suited for metal pots, and any quantity of rice.
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I get greater enjoyment out of sharing the things I've learned about something I get great enjoyment out of than just (you)s. Doubt you will understand that, but it's worth saying, I guess.
Just swinging by to say that Zojirushi rice cookers 100% make better rice than a donabe. I have both and a donabe vs zoji is kind of like a matcha whisk vs a milk frother. One is ceremonial and about the "experience" while the other is about getting perfect results every time. Kind of embarassed to admit I even own a donabe after reading this thread to be honest.
Skill issue. I'd love to see a picture of your donabe and maybe even some rice made from it.
Just quit man. You're embarassing yourself. I get that you spent a lot of money on your donabe and really want it to perform better than a zoji, but that's just not true. Maybe take a step outside and reflect on what has brought you to this point? Hope you get better soon man.
95% chance you're lying.
Another loser without a real argument. Really sad.
look up "claypot seafood"
pretty tasty lookin
Found it in the archives. Might as well post it. I highly recommend using filtered or bottled water that has a neutral to sweet taste. This recipe is only for short grain rice also.
1.Measure rice by weight (ex. 450g)
2.rinse rice 4-6 times.
3. Drain as much water from it as possible.
3. Weigh rice again. (Will weigh more. 500g for example)
4. Add water until the new weight is 1:1.(900g total weight, or 400g of additional water)
5.Add rice and water to heavy bottomed pot.
6.Let rice soak for 30 minutes.
7. Cover, Turn heat on high, set timer.
8.When it begins boiling turn heat to low, and continue cooking for however long it took to get to boil.
9.remove from heat and rest 10 minutes covered.
10.fluff
buy expensive 450$ clay pot from le Japan.
Ignores local clay pot costing a fraction of the cost.
nagger it's a clay pot all cultures used to make clay pots even before we can write. why not buy local.
I do agree clay pots cook tasty shit from mushroom to meat to cheese
Japanese clay has a different porous structure and mineral composition that contributes to how the rice cooks and tastes. You have to use Japanese clay to cook rice properly AND it has to be from the Tokoname region. A Donabe made with clay from anywhere else in Japan isn't worth using.
I bought the clay pot developed for the rice I wanted to cook well. The price of the donabe is not marked up for the US market. The producer doesn't even ship to the US.
The Kumoi kiln donabe has a very interesting history and I consider it a piece of functional art. The price is of no concern to me.
Maybe I will grab a local one to compare. Could be fun and interesting.
This is an excellent write up on what makes kumoi kiln donabes so special. It's an interesting read into classic Japanese craftmanship autism.
https://thejapanesefoodlab.com/kumoi-kiln/