Should I completely stop eating lunch meat with nitrates?

Should I completely stop eating lunch meat with nitrates?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *cracks open can of Spam* huh?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why the frick is spam so tasty? I bought a 12 pack of jalapeno spam and I could have eaten that shit every day for breakfast

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Almost all of the nitrite in cured meats is converted to safe compounds by the time you actually eat it. The danger is in eating cured meats that haven't fully cured.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how common is that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't nitrites that directly cause problem, it's the nitrites reacting with the meat and forming nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I'm wondered about my years of eating late night lunch meat sandwiches catching up to me and giving me colon cancer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All you can do is try to eat better now and make foods like that a non-habit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We're all gonna die from something

          dont worry so much

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well I'd rather it not be butthole cancer.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you might as well never drive a car because car accidents happen

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a lot easier to give up bologna than it is to stop driving a car.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >its only bologna
                no its bologna, hotdogs, pepperonis, ham, spam, bacon, literally any processed meat. its hard AF bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                those foods existed for centuries, how is it that just now they cause cancer?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because there is now like 10 billion people on the planet and they are now made with modern factory processes with modern chemicals to churn them out as fast as possible for maximal profit

                nobody has time to take a whole 3 months to naturally cure a pork leg anymore. And those that are, are too expensive/unwieldly for regular consumption

                >pepperonis
                *pepperoni
                Learn to pluralise, moron.

                suck my wiener, moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because we are better able to discover cancer risk factors than we used to be.
                Do you think people never had cancer in the past?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >how is it that just now they cause cancer?
                maybe because 500 years they didn't have the knowledge about this stuff that we do now?

                one of the dumbest fricking posts i've read here in a while

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people ate this shit and lived longer than us
                >bro it was the same anyway they just weren't smart enough to realize it
                >bro it's the factories
                >bro it's the turd worlders
                >bro no scientists have never lied to us you fricking freak

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >get BTFO
                >starts incoherently seething
                many such cases

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They don't, it's just broscience.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just think about it for 5 fricking seconds you midwit. Think about your question. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you the answer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pepperonis
                *pepperoni
                Learn to pluralise, moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                every single day of the past 5-10 years I have eaten at least one item from that list.
                it is so over for me, bros...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, you're fine
                Canadian and French nitrite regulations are off the chain, they're fine
                Your body literally makes this stuff inside of you all the time

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We all gotta go sometime, in the meantime I will enjoy all the delicious foods.
    I'll not sacrifice my enjoyment of life for some ever-changing Thing bad, no Thing good crap.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are nitrates? Are they good or bad for you? Some byproduct of processing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nitrates are a type of salt found naturally in soil. You eat nitrates when you eat green vegetables (also why you sometimes see bacon brands that use celery powder which allows them to misleading call it "nitrate free"), in which case it forms nitric oxide which improves artery function and lowers blood pressure.
      When in contact with meat, though, it reacts with the proteins and forms nitrosamines instead, which are carcinogenic and don't help your arteries

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When in contact with meat, though, it reacts with the proteins and forms nitrosamines instead, which are carcinogenic and don't help your arteries
        Your body produces nitrates in digestion, literally any and all meat you eat is combined with nitrites
        It's in your saliva

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're not in contact with the meat for weeks or months like cured meats are

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those are nitrates not nitrites

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nitrates are fine your body produces more than you will ever consume and they don't cause cancer, they preserve meat and allow you to digest food

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nah keep going loser

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    theres no good evidence they cause cancer. the best evidence that exists contradicts/disproves this notion. fresh meat is better but processed meat is overly villified

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thing is I'm not sure if you're coping like a smoker in the 70s or 80s about whether cigarettes cause cancer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're full of shit if you think nitrites cause cancer
        Are you so afraid of nitrites that you're gargling mouthwash every 20 minutes? It's in your spit, Anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what about this anons point?

          It isn't nitrites that directly cause problem, it's the nitrites reacting with the meat and forming nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I responded to that guy directly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know what causes cancer? A hereditary predisposition to cancer... also engaging in behavior which causes acelerated cell replication. You know, like chronic smoke, chemical, and radiation exposure? Cancer is just normal cells that have degraded and no longer possess the properties to replicate as a healthy cell. A fricking sandwich ain't gonna do it. Shitty genes plus chronic bad behavior is the path to cancer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Digits and also my family is not predisposed to cancer, mostly geopolitics and war
            Also I was saying nitrites are basically harmless

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You know what causes cancer? A hereditary predisposition to cancer... also engaging in behavior which causes acelerated cell replication. You know, like chronic smoke, chemical, and radiation exposure? Cancer is just normal cells that have degraded and no longer possess the properties to replicate as a healthy cell. A fricking sandwich ain't gonna do it. Shitty genes plus chronic bad behavior is the path to cancer.

              >all the men in my family get cancer (other than my dad, he has none at all)
              >none of the women do
              not sure what to make of this

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK serious face on me now, also your digits are special to me and I hope you recognize this

                If you think you might get cancer just do all of the stupid low-effort cancer mitigation, like put your body into ketosis and eat meat for a few weeks, then starve yourself for a week, you won't die, just cut out all sugars
                Do this annually and maybe try the peach pits or whatever; if you're scare but it doesn't kill people do it, ivermectin is totally harmless and nobody understands how or why it works, I've read so many papers
                It's not even hard and it's even fun, get after it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i hardly ever eat processed meat so i doubt it. read the whole paper if you want to learn why theres no good evidence but heres the important bit
        >Most importantly for the IARC report, two major dietary intervention studies that should have contributed to the assessment of the claimed relationship of red meat and cancer were not considered. The first was a study of colon polyps, the precancerous growths that greatly increase the likelihood of developing colon cancer. Almost 1,900 subjects with a recent history of having a polyp removed were divided into a control group that ate their usual diet and a group following a diet characterized by significant decreases in total fat, red, and processed meat along with increases in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (Schatzkin et al., 2000). Participants were followed for 3 years and at the end of that time, the recurrence of colon polyps was identical in both diet groups. It is possible that the precancerous stage may not have been the proper time for dietary intervention. The Women’s Health Initiative, therefore, studied a low-fat diet, achieved in large part by reducing red- and processed-meat consumption, among almost 49,000 women (Beresford et al., 2006); about 30,000 followed their normal diets and almost 20,000 were assigned to low-fat diets. After 9 years, the rate of colon cancer was almost identical in the low-fat and control-diet groups. These studies strongly suggest that the observational studies are not supported by dietary intervention studies at either the precancerous or malignant tumor stages of colon cancer.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7015455/
        tldr weak incosistent associations not confirmed by large expensive RCT

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Klurfeld PhD has been National Program Leader for Human Nutrition in the Agricultural
          Research Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture since 2004
          Every time, it's one of those meat industry israelites

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    last time i ate lunch meat my tummy felt a grumbly
    Idno they doing some weird shit to them lately i dont trust.
    They are not being transported with the care meats need to not get people sick

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nitrates kill shit that causes botulism. Which kills your ass dead real fast, hence the reason we use nitrates to preserve shit. Nitrates are good. Doctors do NOT have cause and effect evidence when it comes to any dietary shit. It's all "studies" where nothing is controlled well, and it's all made up data for whatever they were paid to vilify and support that year.

    If you are worried about colon cancer, get your ass checked regularly once you get old. That means getting the old tube camera up the butt, and don't forget the finger up the ass for prostate cancer too, that gets lots of dudes. Cancer doesn't give a shit what you've eaten, it just fricking happens. Mom was a non-smoker, died of lung cancer, early. Cancer didn't get the memo that non-smokers shouldn't get lung cancer. Live your life, get checked, and don't avoid the doc when you very obviously need it.

    Your sandwich meat won't kill you. Sitting on your lard ass will.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Your sandwich meat won't kill you. Sitting on your lard ass will.
      Post studies with the same level of quality you expect from other research that definitely prove that "sitting on your lard ass will kill you."

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