so how do I ACTUALLY cook octopus so that it's soft without ruining it when I use it for something?

so how do I ACTUALLY cook octopus so that it's soft without ruining it when I use it for something? fail proof please

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't get a soft octopus unless it's raw. Octopuses are basically pure muscle. You could have it tender if you slow cook it in a stew, like the italian caciucco. Potatoes are also a nice trick since they absorb most of the water so the meat doesn't get too gummy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did eat soft cooked octopus in restaurants so it is possible

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then try to chop it before cooking it. But how do you want to consume it exactly? Because otherwise you could always stuff it into a plastic bottle, put it in the fridgw for a night, and then slice it thinly to make carpaccio.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If I cooked the whole big thing I'd probably try it with a mussel soup that I like one day and try doing sushi from it the other day. I could also always go for seafood pasta and soup.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you want to make pasta remember to not throw away the water you used to boil te octopus. Use it instead to make the pasta. It'll become violet and it'll taste of seafood as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong.

      https://i.imgur.com/MN9zaWL.jpeg

      so how do I ACTUALLY cook octopus so that it's soft without ruining it when I use it for something? fail proof please

      We have a saying that's basically the same thing as the English phrase "you've made your bed, now lie in it." It's "the octopus cooks in its own broth" because it casts off a LOT of liquid of its own as it cooks and therefore doesn't require any additional liquid at all. Just put it, whole, into a heavy, lightly oiled pot with a lid or a slow cooker and let it do its thing in a warm oven (very very low temperature) or on "low" in the slow cooker. After a good long while of braising in this manner, it will be extremely tender and can be cut up and used in other dishes from there or just eaten as is.
      I got perfectly soft 'puspus from the very first time I even tried, it's so foolproof. After this initial braise, the octopus and it's broth can be added to other dishes for rounder flavour or you can roast it for some crispy, burnt loveliness. The broth can also be used in place of egg to make an extremely flavourful mayonnaise. Octopus in its own mayonnaise is a favourite summertime salad where I'm from.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait so without adding any liquid?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed.
          You can simmer it in water instead but I find that it doesn't affect the tenderness if it's cooked for just as long, but that the flavour of the octopus is kind of diminished*. You can also hold it by the head and dip its tentacles into boiling water a few times to get them to curl up before cooking as I described. They'll remain curled after cooking but still be as tender and flavourful as otherwise. I don't see much the point of curled tentacles other than for presentation, though, so I've never bothered.
          >* the broth that results from simmering the octopus in water instead of letting it cook in its own broth is served as a tea with a bit of salt and lemon but it's too thin to use in making mayonnaise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Next question

        Which has better flavor and texture
        the short cooked octopus or the long cooked octopus? Let's assume we cooked the octopus in it's own juice like this guy said
        so it had minimal flavor loss and let's say we massaged the short cooked octopus

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    stop eating weird shit outta the ocean

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >so how do I ACTUALLY cook octopus
    Don't
    Have you tried not
    Let the sea creatures live

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Octopuses breed and die quickly. The average lifespan is two years. Both male and female die after laying the eggs. Eating one every now and then doesn't destroy the ecosystem, unlike you prude homosexuals that binge tuna cans like no tomorrow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eating one every now and then doesn't destroy the ecosystem
        Thought process of every Chinese subhuman who doesn’t have the wherewithal to understand that all billion+ of them think that way

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But i'm not chinese and i don't eat only seafood. If you're really this worried about animal conservation then why don't you eat rocks?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Octopuses breed and die quickly. The average lifespan is two years.
        It's sort of hardwired into them. They jet around until they're ready to breed, then the mom sits and watch the eggs until she dies. I guess the dad croaks right after fertilizing the eggs, unless of course he either doesn't fertilize any (in which case he dies anyway) or dies before he gets to.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You start by giving it a nice relaxing deep tissue massage. really get in there and soften it up. Do that for like half an hour+ to really make it soft.
    Then you either cook it very short or very long. Short means a few minutes, just enough thats its not raw any more. You can Fry, grill or boil it like that. If you go any longer, it'll get though and you'll need to keep it going to soften it up again. 1h+, you can boil it in a soup/sauce or bake it in the oven in a sauce, so it doesnt dry out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bake it in the oven in a sauce, so it doesnt dry out.
      is it prone to drying in the oven? as in will I have to make sure it's always covered completely in the sauce?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, especially the thin ends of the tentacles can get dry very quickly. Either have it swim in sauce completely or spoon some on top of it from time to time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought massages were just a meme to scam baka gaijin of his money when he eats prime cut sake seasoned kobe beef for 5000 dorus. Do they really work?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can do without it, but it does get a lot softer, especially if you opt for the very short cooking time. They do it in the mediterranean too. If its boiling for 2h, its not that important

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can do without it, but it does get a lot softer, especially if you opt for the very short cooking time. They do it in the mediterranean too. If its boiling for 2h, its not that important

        30 min is an awful lot of time to massage an octopus, would putting it in a bin with a spherical rock and throwing it in the washing mashine work?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP here, thanks for the input everyone, learned a lot today.

      two questions though, is peeling the octopus a necessary step?

      If I'm cooking it fast how short should I keep it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a pic attached on it's own so it's unrelated

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        peeling? no why would you peel it? you only need to remove two things, the beak and the eyes. they're the only hard parts of the animal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I read somewhere about peeling and I did it and the result was ugly because it doesn't peel around the sucttion cups evenly. Glad to confirm I don't have to do it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it depends on the species

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's three things. And you should also remove the innards which include the ink sac and whatever that slimy junk is (the digestive tract?) so four things (or five, if you consider the ink sac and slimy shit as two separate things).

          I read somewhere about peeling and I did it and the result was ugly because it doesn't peel around the sucttion cups evenly. Glad to confirm I don't have to do it.

          I've never peeled an octopus. I've beaten them and found no difference in tenderness so I just don't bother anymore. Same with the shallow cuts thing. No difference.
          People overcomplicate it. It ain't that deep.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lmao what a pussy. octopuses are first soaked in slurry and then thoroughly washed. you won't find any traces of ink, unless you catch it yourself. also, the "innards" are what make up their entire body (what you think is the head), so removing them would be like only eating the tentacles.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You are not very smart.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We have special sticks for beating the octopus. You put it in a salted sack and beat it for around thirty minutes.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit I jokingly asked if the washing machine would work

      [...]
      30 min is an awful lot of time to massage an octopus, would putting it in a bin with a spherical rock and throwing it in the washing mashine work?

      and in the third video guy says his dad would massage it in the washing machine.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You either cook it very briefly and serve it rare or cook it for 3 hours or so

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Octopi are much too intelligent to be eaten. Eat as many cows and chickens as you like but I feel like this is over the line.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pic is both you and the octopus

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le hecking rubik cube solving octoperinos!
      don't get me wrong, i love them to bits. i wrote a thesis on them, as a matter of fact. but cows are not stupid. ask any farmer and they'll tell you they're sharp as a razor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I won't buy or order octopus but if it's dead and on my plate it seems disrespectful not to eat it

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that you have to either cook them VERY briefly or for a LONG time. Brief leaves them not-too-hard, long breaks things down so they're soft again. In between that they become tough and chewy.

    I suppose an alternative would be to needle-tenderize them, or even chop them into tiny shreds.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You 420 BRAISE IT
    if you don't know what a braise is, leave octopus alone. And leave Brittney alone too.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you are literally asking a bunch of morons who have never seen an octupus in their lives. there are two ways to do it: freeze it or pound it. obviously these days, everybody just freezes it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are these methods really equal?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No. Beating with an Italian octopus beating stick is the best.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are not very smart

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Use a pressure cooker to soften them up.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't fathom making octopus at home. I literally use it as a quick test if a restaurant is shit or not, at least any dumb enough to serve it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sushi place I worked at for a couple years did octopus. Only place in the entire city that didn't frick it up, and all we did was by it frozen precooked, then defrost and slice for sushi/nigiri.

      It boggles my mind how often it gets messed up because you can literally buy it ready to eat from your procurer...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >works at sushi restaurant
        >buys Sysco octopus
        >how can anyone frick up this precooked cut n serve convenience product?
        Come on man. Was this a Japanese owned and run sushi place or a pan Asian kind of thing?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't eat Octopus, anon, it's very likely they came from aliens
    Look it up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So why shouldn't I eat aliens. schizo-kun?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh shizo
        Tiresome homosexual
        I told you to look it up, moron
        You only display your profound ignorance

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You didn’t answer him

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    octopodeez only good in taco yucky don't @ me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      takoyaki is the worst way to eat octopus

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        takoyaki are lovely whatchu talkin about

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and if I want a quick cooked octopus how quickly are we talking? one minute? 4?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Brine it overnight, then simmer in a copper pot with seasoned broth
    it HAS TO be a copper pot

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was hard but I found ONE recipe that doesn't use pre-boiled octopus.
    It seems one minute is the limit.
    https://japan.recipetineats.com/deep-fried-octopus-octopus-karaage/

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is interesting cause if you dip an octopus 3 times in boiling water to curl it up you've probably already overcooked it
      It's crazy how short you have to keep it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one minute
      that's excessive. you can go two-three minute per side easily
      or just until it's golden brown and crispy on the grill

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't have to pound the royal hell out of squid, but heating is pretty much the same - throw it in the pan for 45 seconds and it's almost done. At two minutes, you've got a tasteless rubber band.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just boiling it for at least one hour will make it soft. I’ve had zero problems with a tough octopus. You don’t even really need to add water, it will release enough to submerge itself, assuming your container isn’t super wide. You can add other things to give it some additional taste too, like bay leaves, peppercorns, garlic etc, and you can use the resulting broth in other seafood recipes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, and don’t buy pre-boiled. That shit will just be jerky no matter how much you cook it, unless you eat it out of the bag

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