What could I be doing better in my diet ?

What could I be doing better in my diet ?
I fast one day and eat the next because I'm a lazy frick that can't be asked to cook every single day
And usually it's a 1lb or half a pound bone in NY STRIP steak with just sea salt cooked to rare
I drink plain kefir with it some times or just water
Also some cheese and yogurt rarely

Is there anything else missing ?
Fruits too much sugar
Veggas is a meme
Inb4 fiber
I've never felt better also on multivitamin and electrolytes

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Healthy" diets aren't that simple. Governments are cowards or intentionally not telling people that your race determines what you can/cannot eat for optimal health. Different human races also require different amounts of sunlight exposure (ie see US blacks going ballistic everywhere) and a whole bunch of other attributes. Eugenics was probably going to objective measure things like this and the whole beetus/fattie epidemic might have been avoided.

    People suddenly feeling better after not eating vegetables might just be their bodies healing damage caused by pesticides that leech into their vegetables.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you absorb way more pesticides in the form of agricultural runoff in your water than you ever will from produce, dummy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Grocery store fruits contain so much pesticides that if you blend/strain them, the leftover liquid will function as the best pesticide spray for your own garden, don't take my word for it, try it yourself. That's why you're not supposed to bite into fruit without peeling it first (ie why bananas are the GOAT fruit).

        >It's actually the vegetables
        I think it's all the junk food loaded with refined carbs and refined oil. High calorie food with low nutrition leads to weight gain which leads to diabetes.

        If that were true then fruit would also cause this as it's missing pretty much all 9 essential amino acids. It's almost as if people are being POISONED by something.

        Another way to think about it is this: if you were a plant and animals started eating the non-fruit parts of you, how would you tell them to frick off?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If that were true then fruit would also cause this as it's missing pretty much all 9 essential amino acids.
          Fruit is still full of fiber and water and takes a while to eat. That makes it harder to overconsume. The fiber plus vitamin C and other things also limit how much it affects your blood sugar.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you LITERALLY eat nothing but fruit your body will start eating itself after a while becuase it doesn't contain a lot of the 9 essential amino acids. Your body can actually tolerate this for a while, even years maybe.

            Anyway all those "carbs" in junkfood is made from vegetables/legumes. Isn't that interesting? Almost like plants are trying to tell us something...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Almost like

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >almost like
                >be like
                >[I] feel like

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That doesn't mean fruit is unhealthy. Carbs don't seem bad when not refined. Anyway, it's true that there are still antinutrients and things in plants that are toxic to some people. Maybe some day we'll have better control over plants and they'll be perfectly nutritious.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They still heavily lack all the 9 essential amino acids. It's gonna take a lot of frakenstein genetic engineering to create a plant that produces something as nutrition dense as a steak.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >as nutrition dense as a steak.
                This is the vitamin content of 100g of rib eye steak. Humans are omnivores; stop being such a stupid motherfricker and eat some fruit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Grocery store fruits contain so much pesticides that if you blend/strain them, the leftover liquid will function as the best pesticide spray for your own garden
          I don't want to ruin anything for you but you know all that meat you eat? Yeah...the animals were fed food full of pesticides. Know where all those pesticides they ate ended up? That's right, all throughout their bodies.

          You can't escape it no matter what you eat.
          >https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/11/no-rainwater-that-falls-anywhere-on-earth-is-safe-to-drink-17161156/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you can't omit it entirely you shouldn't try to mitigate it at all
            Frick off, moron.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You're not mitigating anything by eating meat instead of fruit. If you're eating fish, the general advice is to eat smaller fish with shorter lifespans like anchovies over big, long lived fish like swordfish. Why? Because toxins bioaccumulate over time and that swordfish has a ton of mercury stored in its tissues.

              Similarly, a cow that's been eating pesticide-filled food is going to not just store but concentrate those pesticides. You're getting exposed either way but you're getting exposed to a lot more by eating meat. Cows eat around 24lbs of food a day. For a cow that's slaughtered at around 2 years old, as is usual, that's a little under 9 tons of food that this cow has eaten during its life and all the pesticides and chemicals in that food have been building up in its tissues.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Cows eat around 24lbs of food a day. For a cow that's slaughtered at around 2 years old, as is usual, that's a little under 9 tons of food that this cow has eaten during its life
                You're assuming a cow eats 24 lbs of food the day it's born.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not really the point, is it? I'm not going to the effort of calculating an age-adjusted caloric intake for a cow. We could cut that number in half and still have 4.5 tons of food worth of pesticides concentrated into one cow.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But theres pesticides on plants too. Theres pesticides and chemicals and microplastic on fricking everything.

                Animals unlike plants have livers/kidneys and to some degree can filter out most pesticides they ingest. Plants don't have that.

                I've never felt sick afte eating a whole rack of ribs/steak but I intentionally remove pickles/lettuce/onions/tomatoes from cheeseburgers otherwise I end up on the shitter for hours. MAYBE my body is trying to tell me something...

                Maybe thats a you problem then. Imagine spending hours on the toilet from fricking lettuce.
                Basically these is just 2 sides of the same coin. Both nut cases.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >But theres pesticides on plants too. Theres pesticides and chemicals and microplastic on fricking everything.
                Yes, that was my point

                >Grocery store fruits contain so much pesticides that if you blend/strain them, the leftover liquid will function as the best pesticide spray for your own garden
                I don't want to ruin anything for you but you know all that meat you eat? Yeah...the animals were fed food full of pesticides. Know where all those pesticides they ate ended up? That's right, all throughout their bodies.

                You can't escape it no matter what you eat.
                >https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/11/no-rainwater-that-falls-anywhere-on-earth-is-safe-to-drink-17161156/

                You should eat a normal, balanced diet because you're going to be eating this shit no matter what you do and if you try some moronic cope like refusing to eat anything but meat like the one autistic guy in this thread then it's going to be counterproductive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >have 4.5 tons of food worth of pesticides concentrated into one cow
                my brobro has no idea what a cow eats in the first world.
                i'm sincerely sorry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Animals unlike plants have livers/kidneys and to some degree can filter out most pesticides they ingest. Plants don't have that.

            I've never felt sick afte eating a whole rack of ribs/steak but I intentionally remove pickles/lettuce/onions/tomatoes from cheeseburgers otherwise I end up on the shitter for hours. MAYBE my body is trying to tell me something...

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Animals unlike plants have livers/kidneys
              Are you telling me you don't eat organ meats? Carnivore diets are moronic enough already without cutting out the most nutritious parts of animals.

              >I intentionally remove pickles/lettuce/onions/tomatoes from cheeseburgers otherwise I end up on the shitter for hours.
              Anon, if eating a slice of tomato makes you shit for hours then you need to see a doctor because MAYBE your body is trying to tell you that your gut is severely fricked up.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nope but then again I'm not a full blown carnivore. I've just been able to tune my diet to the pint where I feel good 90% of the time and this has lead me to eating as little plant food as possible.

                But theres pesticides on plants too. Theres pesticides and chemicals and microplastic on fricking everything.
                [...]
                Maybe thats a you problem then. Imagine spending hours on the toilet from fricking lettuce.
                Basically these is just 2 sides of the same coin. Both nut cases.

                Maybe the joints I go to buy lettuced soaked in buckets of pesticides. I'm glad the animal I'm eating had a liver/kidneys and was able to remove most of them for me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't eat fruit
                >doesn't eat vegetables
                >doesn't eat organ meats
                So basically you're just another generic autist with a fricked up digestive system and compulsive eating habits whose diet is nothing but plain hamburgers? That's great but your inability to digest a tomato without shitting yourself is not indicative of what normal people should be eating.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Steak, eggs, dairy, cheese, etc. Burgers I try to keep to a minimum, the buns are made of plant material after all.

                Also I don't know man, maybe they don't soak the vegetables where you live in as much pesticides? I just know a couple of patties,bacon, and a few slices of swis cheese with lots of mayo/mustard = heaven on the weekends wtihout any stomach problems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Governments are cowards or intentionally not telling people that your race determines what you can/cannot eat
      They literally do that already, you fricking moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No they don't, otherwise blacks in the US would only be allowed to buy things like wild caught Salmon/eggs from pasture raised chickens wit EBT to mitigate their low vitamin D levels. OFC those things aren't cheap but I don't see how burning cities to the ground every decade is cheaper.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where, you little fucjing moron spaz

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there anything else missing ?
    Eggs, fatty fish (sardines, salmon), caviar, bone broth, blood, organs, butter, shrimp. Make sure milk is A2 or goat. Also drink green tea. Mushrooms in moderation.

    >Fruits too much sugar
    Avocados, lemons, limes, blueberries, raspberries are all fine. Peppers in moderation. Tomatoes if you stew them from whole tomatoes (cherry or roma) and in moderation (too inflammatory if abused).

    >Veggas is a meme
    Wilted greens on occasion, onions, and celery.

    >Inb4 fiber
    Chia seeds, although a bit overrated. Also unsweetened cocoa powder.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A2 Milk
      >This entire post

      Don't forget to activate your almonds before you insert them in your ass for maximum health benefits.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    eggs

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how the frick come i can't eat any kind of vegetable but steamed ones without feeling like i need to vomit my body weight? pesticides?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wash them, they are filthy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't post that frog, it reminds me of blacks irl and I come here as an escape from that.

      Anyway as a huge supporter of eugenics you may not have the genes to deal with all the anti-nutrients present in vegetables. Plants get pretty upset when you eat any part of them that isn't ripe fruit afterall.

      Peeling them can get rid of a lot of the pesticides they're soaked in but you still have the internal "natural" pesticides to worry about which your body might not be able to deal with very well.

      Look up the unuit. As soon as they adopted a western diets they started suffering from tooth decay and before that they never had those problems despite never brushing which is strange to say the least.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Fruits too much sugar
    You can help your digestion of the meat using digestive enzymes. You are getting some from the kefir, mostly lactase enzymes. For protein heavy diets, a source of protease enzymes helps a lot.
    The most effective enzymes are found in the things we use to marinate meat.
    Kiwi fruit
    Vinegars
    Citrus
    Pineapple (bromelain)
    Papaya (papain)
    You could eat a few chunks of pineapple or half a kiwi fruit before your beef, this would help your gut tremendously.
    Otherwise, try marinating the steak in kiwi or pineapple, notice the difference it makes.
    A shot per day of apple cider vinegar is also very helpful.
    t. Carnivore, sometimes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      none of these enzymes survive your stomach acid so this is total quack science

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's really not how it works. Bromelain in particular is so effective that eating too much of it over too long a period can frick up your own digestion because your body stops making an effort, basically because of
        >bromelain is doing all the digesting so why should i even bother making digestive enzymes?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can easily scientifically test what I'm saying. Take some pineapple juice and destroy its bromelain with an acid much weaker than your stomach acid, and witness the loss of enzymatic function. There's no magical way bromelain just avoids being destroyed by your digestive system's pH

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You could be adding fruit instead of torturing yourself with a meme diet you only follow because you lack a father figure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You DO realize that humans have genetically engineered fruits to contain more sugar than naturally present, right?

      Look up how watermelon affects diabetics.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally 80% of my diet is fruit and I'm not diabetic. My parents and a large chunk of my family who eat red meat daily are type 2 diabetic. You do the math. I'm sure that like keto people are scared of apples, diabetics get adversely affected by fruit, but that's because they're already insulin resistant from having terrible diets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not saying ripe fruits are inherently bad, that's literally the only part plants want you to eat and when ripe have very little anti-nutrients. I'm saying that many of the fruits that exist today are the result of selective breeding to produce candy so things like watermlon are really bad for you compared to say a pear. If eating meat resulted in diabetes then the unuit would have gone extinct a long time ago. It's actually the vegetables laced with natural pesticides fricking shit up everywhere. Plants are really trying to get the whole "I would really like it if you stopped eating the non-fruit parts of me pretty please!" message across but I guess we're going to have to learn the hard way.

          Also diabetes doesn't manifest itself overnight, give it a decade or so and you'll be shooting up insulin all the time eating all that genetically modified fruit we should really be calling "candy".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's actually the vegetables
            I think it's all the junk food loaded with refined carbs and refined oil. High calorie food with low nutrition leads to weight gain which leads to diabetes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >diabetes doesn't manifest itself overnight, give it a decade or so and you'll be shooting up insulin all the time eating all that genetically modified fruit we should really be calling "candy".
            I really don't think you should be equating fruit to candy. Actually my blood sugar DOES shoot up when I eat things like candy so I don't eat it. Only fruit. Keeps my blood sugar stable. I think the whole "fruit isn't NATURALLY supposed to be sweet" shit is a keto psyop trying to make raw fruit and its sweetness seem more unnatural than the obviously much more unnatural pounds of salt, oil, dairy, artificial sweeteners and coffee they consume everyday.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's true that some modern fruits are sweeter. It doesn't mean sweet fruits don't naturally exist. Plus humans have eaten honey for a long time so even without fruit people would still be consuming a good amount of sugar sometimes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The honey we get at the supermarket are all from bees that were fed sugar. Apparently the natural honey is much less sweet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Maple syrup comes naturally from trees and is very sweet. Breast milk is sweet for babies. I really don't buy the whole "fruit is naturally small and tart and actually natural sugar and sweetness is bad for you" stuff. It sounds like they're just describing unripe fruit. Sweetness comes from the fruit ripening, and it gets even sweeter as it rots. We are programmed to seek sweetness out for a reason. People say it's because it's rare, but I really think it's because it's just our main instinctual food source. Not saying meat is bad, but we descend from fruit eaters, so it makes sense we'd crave sweetness first over everything else.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think honey is typically always fairly sweet and that doesn't vary much, but wild honey can have strong and sometimes offputting flavors depending on what the bees collected from.

                Maple syrup comes naturally from trees and is very sweet. Breast milk is sweet for babies. I really don't buy the whole "fruit is naturally small and tart and actually natural sugar and sweetness is bad for you" stuff. It sounds like they're just describing unripe fruit. Sweetness comes from the fruit ripening, and it gets even sweeter as it rots. We are programmed to seek sweetness out for a reason. People say it's because it's rare, but I really think it's because it's just our main instinctual food source. Not saying meat is bad, but we descend from fruit eaters, so it makes sense we'd crave sweetness first over everything else.

                >Maple syrup comes naturally from trees and is very sweet.
                The sap from trees is slightly sweet but to make it into syrup it has to be boiled down.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Open a history book. Many of the "fruits" you see today are genetically engineered abominations that we keep making more and more sweet. Sugary things = more profit.

              High fiber in fruit (which humans can't digest btw) is what makes some fruit safe for diabetics because it slows down how quickly sugar gets into your blood. The abominations I'm talking about like watermelon are LOW in fiber. That makes it DANGEROUS for diabetics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Many of the "fruits" you see today are genetically engineered abominations that we keep making more and more sweet.
                As if modern animals aren't fattened, disabled genetically engineered abominations. Wild chickens laid 12-15 eggs a year. Modern ones, even backyard chickens lay eggs almost daily.
                >Sugary things = more profit.
                Yeah, humans tend to like sweetness
                >High fiber in fruit (which humans can't digest btw)
                Not true
                >is what makes some fruit safe for diabetics because it slows down how quickly sugar gets into your blood. The abominations I'm talking about like watermelon are LOW in fiber. That makes it DANGEROUS for diabetics.
                Freshly squeezed fruit juice (no added sugar) doesn't bother me or spike my blood sugar either, though. Fruit is dangerous for people who make themselves insulin resistant by consuming too much fat. Fat intake impairs the body's ability to regulate its blood SUGAR.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >High fiber in fruit (which humans can't digest btw) is what makes some fruit safe for diabetics because it slows down how quickly sugar gets into your blood
                You can feed diabetics a diet that is almost pure sugar and their insulin sensitivity will improve.
                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5100724/
                >improved glucose tolerance with a liquid-formula diet containing 85% of energy as dextrose or a mixture of dextrins and maltose

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >watermelon is bad for you
            homie kys

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Think about it this way: watermelon is a science experiment. There is no "wild" watermelon with that much sugar in nature.

              Why do you think that is? What benefit do plants get by giving their hosts beetus?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no "wild" watermelon with that much sugar in nature.
                That doesn't mean it's bad. Can you show any evidence of someone getting diabetes from fruit? I know it's common to get diabetes with obesity and diets high in refined sugar. I've never seen any evidence of fruit, even in large amounts, causing diabetes though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most people who get diabetes have eaten fruit. Prove it didn't contribute. Nobody's going to run an experiment with everybody eating only fruit to see if they can get diabetes independently of other food types.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >no i don't have any evidence
                alright

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most people who get diabetes have eaten meat. Prove it didn't contribute.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I eat meat with a CGM on and my blood sugar doesn't change. Eat fruit and my sugar goes up

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks that personal anecdotes count as proof
                lol no no no, i'm afraid it doesn't work that way
                but i'll play along: what is your basis for assuming that a rise in blood sugar after eating carbs has anything to do with diabetes?

                You can easily scientifically test what I'm saying. Take some pineapple juice and destroy its bromelain with an acid much weaker than your stomach acid, and witness the loss of enzymatic function. There's no magical way bromelain just avoids being destroyed by your digestive system's pH

                So your position is that your own body should just stop producing digestive enzymes because they're just going to be
                >destroyed by your digestive system's pH
                because that's pretty moronic, son. Regardless of how you feel things might work if we walked out to your garage lab and engaged with your severe lack of understanding of how basic chemical processes work, we already have ample evidence that bromelain improves digestion:
                >https://europepmc.org/article/med/11369177
                and that bromelain can reduce symptoms of ulcerative colitis:
                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10766699/
                something that doesn't make much sense if it's just being completely destroyed in the stomach. How do you imagine that bromelain, taken orally, manages to affect a disease of the colon?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's normal and fine. Blood glucose goes up, insulin kicks in then blood glucose goes down. If it gets really high after eating fruit and stays elevated for a prolonged time then you have the beetus. BMI?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no "wild" watermelon with that much sugar in nature.
                That doesn't mean it's bad. Can you show any evidence of someone getting diabetes from fruit? I know it's common to get diabetes with obesity and diets high in refined sugar. I've never seen any evidence of fruit, even in large amounts, causing diabetes though.

                >I've never seen any evidence of fruit, even in large amounts, causing diabetes though.
                Not only does fruit not cause diabetes, diets that are extremely high in any kind of sugar are actually therapeutic for diabetics:

                >High fiber in fruit (which humans can't digest btw) is what makes some fruit safe for diabetics because it slows down how quickly sugar gets into your blood
                You can feed diabetics a diet that is almost pure sugar and their insulin sensitivity will improve.
                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5100724/
                >improved glucose tolerance with a liquid-formula diet containing 85% of energy as dextrose or a mixture of dextrins and maltose

                There is a ton of evidence for this and the idea that diabetes is caused by sugar is outdated and wrong. Diabetes is caused by a diet that is high in both fat and sugar because the two compete for absorption and eating lots of them together essentially fricks up your ability to metabolize either one. This is known as the Randle cycle:
                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randle_cycle
                Diabetics who are put on a diet that is low in fat and high in sugar typically begin to reverse their insulin resistance. We've know this for nearly a century at this point but the kind of people who chase fad diets like keto and get all their information from celebrity bloggers are not the sort to have any kind of rounded knowledge of the history of nutritional science. Hence, you get the sort of moronic takes you see in this thread, like "watermeleon causes diabetes" and "fruit doesn't contain protein".

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You should honestly be put in prison IMHO.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >honestly in my honest opinion
                liar!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you're wrong because...you just are, ok???
                You're a pathetic midwit loser and you have absolutely no clue. You can come back once you have some argument besides your limp dick but until then, you can suck mine. moron.

                High carb, low fat diets are therapeutic in diabetics, known fact since the 1930s.
                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5319129/
                >In 1935 Himsworth showed in normal men that isocaloric reduction of dietary carbohydrate actually impaired, and increased dietary carbohydrate improved oral glucose tolerance. These observations of the effects of a higher carbohydrate diet on oral glucose tolerance in normal subjects have recently been confirmed. Diabetic patients may also respond in a similar manner to high carbohydrate diets. Studies in which weight changes were not controlled showed that fasting blood glucose levels decreased, glucose tolerance improved, and insulin requirements were either unchanged or decreased, when patients with insulin-dependent diabetes were fed carbohydrate-rich diets.”

                >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13984377/
                >In agreement with the short-term results in the present study, they demonstrated that long-term, high carbohydrate ingestion did not impair glucose tolerance and caused no increase in insulin requirements. Furthermore, they noted decreased cholesterol levels, which have been consistently demonstrated in diabetic patients on such diets, reciprocally low in fat as well as increased in carbohydrate, and no long-term changes in triglyceride levels.
                >Thus, in normal persons and subjects with mild diabetes there was an improvement in diabetic control as measured by fasting glucose levels and glucose tolerance, on the dietary extreme of 85% of the calories supplied as the simple sugar dextrose.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >50% of americans will be fat, moronic, and diabetic in a few decades
                >"Just eat more carbs goy! Don't you dare open up a history book and learn about how humans fed themselves before farming became a thing!"
                frick off you israelite

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >50% of americans will be fat, moronic, and diabetic in a few decades
                That's very true and it's because the standard American diet is a high fat diet, which is the opposite of what I've been recommending.

                >"Just eat more carbs goy! Don't you dare open up a history book and learn about how humans fed themselves before farming became a thing!"
                Before farming, humans ate meat, fruit, honey, and tubers. You'll notice that 3/4 of the things on that list are carbs.

                I'm sorry you don't have an actual response to the mountains of evidence I've provided but seething like this isn't doing you any favors, you sad little cuck. We're all anonymous here and there's no shame in just taking the loss and closing the tab. No one but you will know which is better than posting this weakass cope and letting everyone else know too.

                Regardless, I'm starting to feel like I'm bullying the moronic kid so unless you can come up with something more substantial than impotent personal attacks, I'm afraid that this is going to be your last (you). Apply yourself, anon. Do better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >how humans fed themselves before farming
                lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is just common sense. It's much harder to hunt than it is to forage. You can go out planning to gather berries or roots and be virtually guaranteed to find food, while you can go out planning to hunt and have a good chance of not catching anything. Even highly specialized, extremely successful apex predators like big cats aren't successful most of the time.

                This is what you see in modern hunter-gatherers: most of the tribe forages for easy and guaranteed plant foods while a minority go out to hunt. When the hunt is successful, meat gets added to everyone's diet but when it isn't, everyone eats whatever was foraged. The "gatherer" part is just as important as the "hunter" part.

                I don't know about other people, but I'm on carnivore for weight loss, which means I'm on it because no other diet works as well, at least for me.
                When I add spice(or vegetables of any kind), sugar, or even too much casein (cheese and low fat milk), I can't feel satiated from my meals. I feel hungry again within a day and my inflammation spikes. I hear that an anti-inflammatory diet of any composition is bound to reverse certain conditions, and not taking fat and sugar in high doses helps alleviate my type 2 diabetes.
                Going full herbivore or omnivore wouldn't work for me, since the veggies and sugar would make me hungry all of the time, if there is high fat it would work with sugar to make my diabetes worse, if it's not anti-inflammatory it would make my health worse, and I wouldn't be able to get as many nutrients readily and easily as I can on carnivore. Fat-soluble vitamins are necessary to thrive, so why ditch my current method for merely surviving in a declining and wretched state?

                >my body is fricked up from years of abuse and my digestive system has been ravaged by obesity to the point that i can't even digest spices...let me tell you about why the current fad diet i'm following is what everyone should be eating
                Many such cases!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                We agree then that plant-eating is abusive for the body.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure how you could possibly get that from my post but no. If someone is vegan for long enough then their bodies stop producing digestive enzymes for meat and if they eat a piece of meat, they'll get violently ill. Is that proof that meat is bad for us? You didn't get obese from eating "plants", you got obese from eating slop, and now you're trying to pretend that the fact that your ruined digestive system is indicative of anything other than the fact that you spent years ruining it with grains and vegetable oils and ultra-processed foods.

                >Chimps dont kill small animals and eat their meat
                Huh? Dude stop coping, a heavy meat diet with a few fruits and tubers is better than whatever vegetarians/vegans eat.

                >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee#Diet
                >The chimpanzee is an omnivorous frugivore. It prefers fruit above all other food items but also eats leaves, leaf buds, seeds, blossoms, stems, pith, bark, and resin. A study in Budongo Forest, Uganda found that 64.5% of their feeding time concentrated on fruits. In addition, 19% of feeding time was spent on arboreal leaves. While the chimpanzee is mostly herbivorous, it does eat honey, soil, insects, birds and their eggs, and small to medium-sized mammals, including other primates.
                Your diet should be basically identical to a chimp's diet, minus the leaves. You should be eating mostly fruit supplemented with honey, eggs, and enough meat to hit your protein and micronutrient goals.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You DO realize that sugar contained in fruits is processed differently from added sugars, right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          True, a can of sugar water will probably frick you up worse than a kilogram of water melon but the point is modern fruits aren't "natural". We've genetically modified them to replace candy which might be good in theory but if we keep mutating them to contain more and more fruit sugars we'll get to a point where watermelon from the year 2050 is just as unhealthy as a can of soda.

          I'm a fan of fasting once a week. I also limit read meat to once a month.

          I'm also a fan of beats though I've been on a break.

          Where do you get your RDA of 9 essential amino acids?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not saying ripe fruits are inherently bad, that's literally the only part plants want you to eat and when ripe have very little anti-nutrients. I'm saying that many of the fruits that exist today are the result of selective breeding to produce candy so things like watermlon are really bad for you compared to say a pear. If eating meat resulted in diabetes then the unuit would have gone extinct a long time ago. It's actually the vegetables laced with natural pesticides fricking shit up everywhere. Plants are really trying to get the whole "I would really like it if you stopped eating the non-fruit parts of me pretty please!" message across but I guess we're going to have to learn the hard way.

        Also diabetes doesn't manifest itself overnight, give it a decade or so and you'll be shooting up insulin all the time eating all that genetically modified fruit we should really be calling "candy".

        >You DO realize that humans have genetically engineered fruits to contain more sugar than naturally present, right?
        You DO realize that all other primates spend the majority of their time foraging for food, right? Even if this were 100% true (it's not) then all it would mean is that you get the same amount of calories in less time. Primitive human gets 500 calories from fruit after spending a couple hours foraging and snacking. Modern human gets 500 calories from fruit in less time, and...?

        Chickens have been bred to have massive breasts compared to wild birds. If a wild chicken is a third of the size of a selectively bred chicken, that doesn't mean that the farmed chicken magically becomes bad for you just because it contains more protein and calories.

        >the unuit
        Why do you people always hyperfocus on one tiny group of humans who were forced into an extreme diet due to living in an extreme climate, and hold them up as some kind of ideal? The "unuit" ate literally every kind of plant the could find. They ate berries, they ate tubers, they ate seaweed. If they found any source of carbs then they went to great lengths to collect it.

        If you could point to a group of humans who had the option to eat anything they wanted and only ate meat because of whatever moronic reasoning you have, then that would be one thing, but when your only example is people who literally had no other choice because they couldn't grow anything where they lived then you just look like an idiot.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The unuit are scientific proof that mostly meat based diets are 100% "natural" for humans. Being the apex predators and all has literally allowed us to survive on nothing but meat from animals and water. Modern diets are making people sick because we literally haven't evolved to consume less than ~80% of our calories from non-animal sources.

          https://i.imgur.com/sZApYrf.png

          >as nutrition dense as a steak.
          This is the vitamin content of 100g of rib eye steak. Humans are omnivores; stop being such a stupid motherfricker and eat some fruit.

          Now how much of the 9 essential amino acids are present in steak vs fruit. Anon, you don't have to blindly "trust the experts". They've been wrong about a LOT of things.

          IF and ONLY IF what they're telling us was 100% correct then the Inuit should have gone extinct a long time ago. Yet they haven't, you need to ask yourself why that is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The unuit are scientific proof that mostly meat based diets are 100% "natural" for humans.
            Son, humans existed for literal millions of years before any of us got within 10,000 miles of the arctic. If humans have a natural diet then it was whatever we were eating during the early stages of our development and that development took place in tropical areas.

            >Now how much of the 9 essential amino acids are present in steak vs fruit.
            The steak pic was around 250 calories. Here's 250 calories of guava. Oh look, how about that, it contains every essential amino acid. Now quick, move that goalpost and tell me that it doesn't count because it's only in small amounts.

            Anon I'm gonna really blow your mind here but there's this concept called a "balanced diet". Even if fruits do contain all amino acids, you're not going to meet your protein needs by eating just fruit. But even if meat does contain a lot of protein, you're never going to meet your micronutrient needs by eating just fruit. You'll have a bad time not getting enough protein, true, but you'll have a bad time not getting enough folate or vitamin c too.

            If you think that this dumb shit pic

            https://i.imgur.com/IVpgu52.jpg

            Large guts, haven't you ever wondered why gorillas have big bellies and humans have small bellies?

            Farming wasn't a thing until recently when you look at human history. For something like 80% of our entire existence we've been pretty much hunting animals/fish/birds. That's why most animals instinctively run away from us, we've been dabbing on them for so long that "avoid mutated monkeys" has been etched into their genetic code LMAO.

            Anyway over time our digestive system kept getting smaller and smaller so it seems we've mostly lost the ability to ferment and break down cellusose from plants. Hell our teeth are getting so small that you hear people crying about making their steak MOAR TENDER all the time. That's why we beat our meat all the time lol.

            That said depending on your race you may be able to break down more plant material and have adaptations to all the anti-nutrients plants produce but overall humans just don't seem to be compatible with plant diets anymore.

            is some kind of pro-carnivore gotcha then try comparing humans to literally any carnivore on the planet. Do you have claws? Do you have sharp teeth? Could you have any hope of killing and eating an animal without the aid of tools?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just don't eat 50 apples in one sitting, fatty.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The fact that this is something we can do should tell you about the dogshit nutrition of fruits. I eat one steak with maybe a few scrambled eggs for lunch and I don't feel hungry until bedtime.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but I really love persimmons though and will eat about 3-5 in one sitting because they're just so damn addicting and delicious. Guess it's a good thing they're not around all year.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a fan of fasting once a week. I also limit read meat to once a month.

    I'm also a fan of beats though I've been on a break.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dumb speech to text phoneposter
      i'm surprised you can get through captcha like that

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Add organs, bones, blood and wild seafood

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      all seafood is wild, unless you live on the sea

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what is farmed seafood

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >also on multivitamin and electrolytes
      Are the electrolytes in a supplement, how do you get them

      This is a good suggestion, offal especially

      Eat some fricking greens dude. Just a simple spinach salad.

      Explain herbivores. Even if that were true wouldn’t you think after hundreds of thousands of years of our ancestors hunting/gathering as omnivores we’d develop some sort of resistance?

      Every time someone posts something like I inch closer to full carnivore

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Eat some fricking greens dude. Just a simple spinach salad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      see second part of

      Grocery store fruits contain so much pesticides that if you blend/strain them, the leftover liquid will function as the best pesticide spray for your own garden, don't take my word for it, try it yourself. That's why you're not supposed to bite into fruit without peeling it first (ie why bananas are the GOAT fruit).

      [...]
      If that were true then fruit would also cause this as it's missing pretty much all 9 essential amino acids. It's almost as if people are being POISONED by something.

      Another way to think about it is this: if you were a plant and animals started eating the non-fruit parts of you, how would you tell them to frick off?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Explain herbivores. Even if that were true wouldn’t you think after hundreds of thousands of years of our ancestors hunting/gathering as omnivores we’d develop some sort of resistance?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Large guts, haven't you ever wondered why gorillas have big bellies and humans have small bellies?

          Farming wasn't a thing until recently when you look at human history. For something like 80% of our entire existence we've been pretty much hunting animals/fish/birds. That's why most animals instinctively run away from us, we've been dabbing on them for so long that "avoid mutated monkeys" has been etched into their genetic code LMAO.

          Anyway over time our digestive system kept getting smaller and smaller so it seems we've mostly lost the ability to ferment and break down cellusose from plants. Hell our teeth are getting so small that you hear people crying about making their steak MOAR TENDER all the time. That's why we beat our meat all the time lol.

          That said depending on your race you may be able to break down more plant material and have adaptations to all the anti-nutrients plants produce but overall humans just don't seem to be compatible with plant diets anymore.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >carbs didnt exist before agriculture
            >humans never ate fruit or honey or tubers
            Literally every hunter-gatherer society ever studied went/goes to extreme lengths to gather honey and fruit whenever possible. You want to talk about animals, humans have been eating honey for so long that there are species of birds who have learned to guide humans to bees nests because they know that they will be able to eat the wax left behind
            >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeyguide
            >Honeyguides are noted and named for one or two species that will deliberately lead humans directly to bee colonies, so that they can feast on the grubs and beeswax that are left behind.

            The honey we get at the supermarket are all from bees that were fed sugar. Apparently the natural honey is much less sweet.

            This is complete bullshit. I'm sure there are some garbage honeys that are from bees being fed sugar but they'd taste like shit since the type of pollen collected is where different honeys get their flavor. It's very easy to buy natural honey and even more strongly flavored honeys like, say, eucalyptus honey, are still very sweet. It's concentrated plant nectar.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >This is complete bullshit. I'm sure there are some garbage honeys that are from bees being fed sugar but they'd taste like shit since the type of pollen collected is where different honeys get their flavor. It's very easy to buy natural honey and even more strongly flavored honeys like, say, eucalyptus honey, are still very sweet. It's concentrated plant nectar.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but I don't think you understand what honey is. It's not some secretion from bees. Bees collect and store nectar which they eventually turn into honey. Honey is what bees eat. Beekeepers feed bees sugar because when you take their honey, you are taking their food. When you give bees sugar, they eat the sugar...and then they go out and gather more pollen to turn into honey. Feeding bees sugar has absolutely no impact on the honey.

                Please, at least do the bare minimum research into, say, what fricking honey is made of, before you start spouting off a bunch of dumb shit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My mom bought honey people who (claim to) collect wild honey. She said its much less sweet than honey bought from the store. I think it was like $40/kg.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >She said its much less sweet than honey bought from the store.
                Probably because she's been buying the absolute cheapest slop she can find at the store and it's "sweeter" because it's corn syrup, not honey.
                >https://www.businessinsider.com/fake-honey-problems-how-it-works-2020-9
                >Honey is the third-most-faked food in the world, behind milk and olive oil
                >The manufacturers either dilute real honey with syrup derived from plants, like high-fructose corn syrup or beet syrup. Or they can chemically modify the sugars in those syrups to make them look like real honey.
                If you're not buying honey from small independent producers then you're probably getting fake shit, but real honey is still very sweet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah we dont buy cheap shit. Ive tasted all kinds of honey. The sweetness level is the same. Havent tried the wild honey that my mom bought.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              THINK anon. Before we turned fruit into candy through eugenics, the wild varieties tasted LIKE DOGSHIT. We didn't eat them like we eat them today. Best case scenario they served as "backup" kind of food in case we couldn't kill something that moved within running distance.

              >Many of the "fruits" you see today are genetically engineered abominations that we keep making more and more sweet.
              As if modern animals aren't fattened, disabled genetically engineered abominations. Wild chickens laid 12-15 eggs a year. Modern ones, even backyard chickens lay eggs almost daily.
              >Sugary things = more profit.
              Yeah, humans tend to like sweetness
              >High fiber in fruit (which humans can't digest btw)
              Not true
              >is what makes some fruit safe for diabetics because it slows down how quickly sugar gets into your blood. The abominations I'm talking about like watermelon are LOW in fiber. That makes it DANGEROUS for diabetics.
              Freshly squeezed fruit juice (no added sugar) doesn't bother me or spike my blood sugar either, though. Fruit is dangerous for people who make themselves insulin resistant by consuming too much fat. Fat intake impairs the body's ability to regulate its blood SUGAR.

              So why do vegans fart all the time? Also again if fat/protein is the demon we all think it is then the Inuit should have gone extinct a long time ago. OR are you suggesting that they're not human?

              https://i.imgur.com/myzf5MR.png

              >The unuit are scientific proof that mostly meat based diets are 100% "natural" for humans.
              Son, humans existed for literal millions of years before any of us got within 10,000 miles of the arctic. If humans have a natural diet then it was whatever we were eating during the early stages of our development and that development took place in tropical areas.

              >Now how much of the 9 essential amino acids are present in steak vs fruit.
              The steak pic was around 250 calories. Here's 250 calories of guava. Oh look, how about that, it contains every essential amino acid. Now quick, move that goalpost and tell me that it doesn't count because it's only in small amounts.

              Anon I'm gonna really blow your mind here but there's this concept called a "balanced diet". Even if fruits do contain all amino acids, you're not going to meet your protein needs by eating just fruit. But even if meat does contain a lot of protein, you're never going to meet your micronutrient needs by eating just fruit. You'll have a bad time not getting enough protein, true, but you'll have a bad time not getting enough folate or vitamin c too.

              If you think that this dumb shit pic [...] is some kind of pro-carnivore gotcha then try comparing humans to literally any carnivore on the planet. Do you have claws? Do you have sharp teeth? Could you have any hope of killing and eating an animal without the aid of tools?

              That's why I made the generalization that we haven't evolved to consume less than ~80% of our calories from non-animal sources. The point I'm trying to get across is fruits are more of snacks for us humans, not something to be relied on.

              What we LITERALLY can't survive without are the 9 essential amino acids and animal sourcers contain the highest amounts of them. In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need. Which is EXACTLY what happenned in the US. Obesity/diabetes is about to frick up half of the population unless we flip that stupid fricking US food pyramid upside down.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the wild varieties tasted LIKE DOGSHIT
                Some did. People still say wild berries taste better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I would rather starve to death than eat a wild banana. I'm not going to be bashing those seeds on rocks just to end up getting poisoned from whatever anti-nutrients they contained.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're being a bit dramatic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's EXACTLY my point, plant sources are mediocre sources of all the 9 essential amino acids. That's why half of americans are going to become obese and diabetic in the next decade or so. Their bodies are CONSTANTLY deprived of one or more of the 9 essential amino acids on modern diets with little protein/fats. Thus their brain tells them to eat more food so they end up overloaded with sugar/carbs (basically the same thing at the molecular level).

                It's really sad that we scientifically know what's making peope sick but we won't do anything about it because that would threaten profits.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody is eating a diet that's entirely fruit but the image I posted is literal proof that you can eat nothing but fruit and still get all the protein you need.

                >modern diets with little protein/fats.
                Are you moronic? Modern diets are packed with protein and fat. Have you heard of this thing called a hamburger? Americans are known to be pretty fond of them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your image is literally showing an incomplete protein source. When you're missing one or more of the 9 essential amino acids you don't stop feelling hunger. That's literally the whole idea behind french fries. People literally can't get enough of them becuase they're most ly empty calories. $$$$

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Your image is literally showing an incomplete protein source. When you're missing one or more of the 9 essential amino acids you don't stop feelling hunger.
                Which essential amino acid is missing from my pic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >When you're missing one or more of the 9 essential amino acids you don't stop feelling hunger.
                Fruit is most of my diet, and I don't go hungry. For me at least apples are one of the most satiating foods. Conversely meat makes me hungry within a few hours. I feel like my stomach is on fire and weighed down just eating it. I think water content, sugar and fiber have more to do with satiety than "protein." Meat just isn't what I think about to satisfy hunger ever. A lot of what meat and dairy eaters call "hunger" is really just acid reflux too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fruit doesn't have the same amount of 9 essential amino acids as steak. There's a reason we call them "essential".

                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11158971/Vegan-mom-gets-life-murdering-18-month-son-weighed-17lb-died-strict-diet.html

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's weird because babies will naturally, instinctually reject meat unless it's heavily salted and breaded, but will gobble up raw fruit all day. Perhaps that woman just wasn't feeding her child enough. At 18 months, they still need some breast milk as well. Tons of nonvegan parents kill children through malnutrition as well.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Babies, unlike adult morons that go vegan don't have a lot skeletal muscle built up yet. When your body doesn't receive enough of the 9 essential amino acids it starts eating itself but it's not stupid, it goes for the skeletan muscle first, brain/heart/lungs last. Babies don't have a lot of skeletal muscle built up yet so a few weeks/months on fruits/vegetables and they're a goner.

                Again there's a reason why we call those 9 amino acids "essential". It has nothing to do with feelling/opinions. Even moron vegans eventually run out of skeletal muscle and die.

                https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/truth-behind-starvation-diet-of-influencer-zhanna-dart-revealed/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Babies don't have a lot of skeletal muscle built up yet so a few weeks/months on fruits/vegetables and they're a goner.
                It's very common for babies to refuse meat and yet very readily eat fruit. I wonder why that is?
                >That same ny post article constantly spammed by ketogays
                The anti-vegan psyop is real.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >It's very common for babies to refuse meat and yet very readily eat fruit. I wonder why that is?
                milk is sweet. baby like other sweet food. baby no like not sweet food.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >baby no like not sweet food.
                Because sweetness is an indicator of sugar, sugar is essential to our health, and babies haven't yet been brainwashed into rituals of modern masculinity like meat-only diets

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                >Fruit doesn't have the same amount of 9 essential amino acids as steak.
                It literally does, stop harping on this shit.
                [...]
                Fruit has every essential amino acid and even if it didn't, you could eat 300 calories of chicken breast and get all your protein needs for the day. Pretty much ALL food has protein and you don't need to get it all in a single meal.

                No one is telling you to be a vegan, my autistic friend. Not everything has to be a black and white binary choice between PLANTS ONLY or MEAT ONLY. Normal people eat both. Literally every tribe of humans that has ever existed anywhere on the planet has eaten both animal and plant foods (yes, even keto meme populations like the inuit or maasai) because humans are OMNIVORES.

                Now post the picture of the non-anorexic vegan.

                >baby no like not sweet food.
                Because sweetness is an indicator of sugar, sugar is essential to our health, and babies haven't yet been brainwashed into rituals of modern masculinity like meat-only diets

                Please find me scientific proof that fruits/vegetables have the same 9 essential amino acids as steak.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Please find me scientific proof
                I posted it for you and have linked you to it many times:

                https://i.imgur.com/lpfxHmf.png

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

                https://i.imgur.com/lpfxHmf.png

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

                https://i.imgur.com/lpfxHmf.png

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

                https://i.imgur.com/lpfxHmf.png

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

                You can go to cronometer any time you like and see what nutrients are in fruit. No one is claiming that fruit has as much protein as meat but it does still contain protein and it does contain all amino acids. No, you're not going to hit your protein goals eating just fruit, but lying about what's in fruit just makes you look moronic.

                https://i.imgur.com/js37FLq.jpg

                >have 4.5 tons of food worth of pesticides concentrated into one cow
                my brobro has no idea what a cow eats in the first world.
                i'm sincerely sorry.

                >he thinks that they don't spray the grass with anything
                >he thinks that most people are eating 100% grass fed beef
                >he's pretending that 95% of beef sold in "the first world" doesn't come from factory farms where the cows are fed grains
                Imagine being this naive.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are unironically moronic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >plant source with incomplete quantities of ALL 9 essential amino acids

                Frick man, why are vegans so fricking stupid? Can't they put 2 and 2 together and stop feeding their babies coconut milk so they won't fricking die?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >why are vegans so fricking stupid?

                >Please find me scientific proof
                I posted it for you and have linked you to it many times:
                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                [...]
                You can go to cronometer any time you like and see what nutrients are in fruit. No one is claiming that fruit has as much protein as meat but it does still contain protein and it does contain all amino acids. No, you're not going to hit your protein goals eating just fruit, but lying about what's in fruit just makes you look moronic.

                [...]
                >he thinks that they don't spray the grass with anything
                >he thinks that most people are eating 100% grass fed beef
                >he's pretending that 95% of beef sold in "the first world" doesn't come from factory farms where the cows are fed grains
                Imagine being this naive.

                >No, you're not going to hit your protein goals eating just fruit,
                Why are you incapable of honest discussion? You can't have a simple debate without lying and misrepresenting what other people are saying? No one here is a vegan, stop pulling out strawmen just because you have no honest response.

                >incomplete quantities
                I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I gave you literal, undeniable, factual proof that fruit, in this case guava, does indeed contain all essential amino acids. No amount of seething on your part is going to change that fact. 2500 calories of pure guava contains 94g of protein and, as you keep repeating,
                >ALL 9 essential amino acids

                It sounds like you're just desperately dragging the goalposts around and changing your position because you actually thought that fruit had no protein and you refuse to admit that you were wrong. I have consistently told you that

                [...]
                >Fruit doesn't have the same amount of 9 essential amino acids as steak.
                It literally does, stop harping on this shit.
                [...]
                Fruit has every essential amino acid and even if it didn't, you could eat 300 calories of chicken breast and get all your protein needs for the day. Pretty much ALL food has protein and you don't need to get it all in a single meal.

                No one is telling you to be a vegan, my autistic friend. Not everything has to be a black and white binary choice between PLANTS ONLY or MEAT ONLY. Normal people eat both. Literally every tribe of humans that has ever existed anywhere on the planet has eaten both animal and plant foods (yes, even keto meme populations like the inuit or maasai) because humans are OMNIVORES.

                >humans are OMNIVORES.
                and this sad cope of pretending that I'm a vegan is just making it obvious that you have no argument and the only thing you have left is lying and trying to deflect from the fact that you're a fad-chasing moron whose body is so fricked up that you can't properly digest a piece of fruit.

                Every human population on the face of the planet eats fruit. That's a FACT. The Inuit eat fruit. The Maasai eat fruit. Whatever other meat-centric outlier population you can name still eats fruit whenever they can find it. There is no tribal human on the face of the planet who would turn down a piece of fruit if they were offered it.

                Yes, by all means, you should eat meat. But you should also eat fruit and lying about the nutritional content of fruit, especially when you have been repeatedly proven wrong, is just foolish. Who are you trying to convince?

                you are unironically moronic.

                >i don't have a response so i'll just insult you
                I accept your concession.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now post the picture of the non-anorexic vegan.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                she died

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/4F1oNPm.jpg

                Babies, unlike adult morons that go vegan don't have a lot skeletal muscle built up yet. When your body doesn't receive enough of the 9 essential amino acids it starts eating itself but it's not stupid, it goes for the skeletan muscle first, brain/heart/lungs last. Babies don't have a lot of skeletal muscle built up yet so a few weeks/months on fruits/vegetables and they're a goner.

                Again there's a reason why we call those 9 amino acids "essential". It has nothing to do with feelling/opinions. Even moron vegans eventually run out of skeletal muscle and die.

                https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/truth-behind-starvation-diet-of-influencer-zhanna-dart-revealed/

                >Fruit doesn't have the same amount of 9 essential amino acids as steak.
                It literally does, stop harping on this shit.

                https://i.imgur.com/lpfxHmf.png

                >ketolard has never eaten wild fruit
                Jesus christ anon, how did you end up like this? Please, for your own sake, go on a fricking hike or something. I eat wild blueberries all the time and I can assure you that they taste wonderful.

                >In order to get this from plants we would have to EAT MORE calories than we need.
                Complete bullshit once again. I personally wouldn't want to eat nothing but guava but if you decided to get your daily 2,500 calories exclusively from guava, it would look like this.

                Fruit has every essential amino acid and even if it didn't, you could eat 300 calories of chicken breast and get all your protein needs for the day. Pretty much ALL food has protein and you don't need to get it all in a single meal.

                No one is telling you to be a vegan, my autistic friend. Not everything has to be a black and white binary choice between PLANTS ONLY or MEAT ONLY. Normal people eat both. Literally every tribe of humans that has ever existed anywhere on the planet has eaten both animal and plant foods (yes, even keto meme populations like the inuit or maasai) because humans are OMNIVORES.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LOL no they aren't, see

                https://i.imgur.com/IVpgu52.jpg

                Large guts, haven't you ever wondered why gorillas have big bellies and humans have small bellies?

                Farming wasn't a thing until recently when you look at human history. For something like 80% of our entire existence we've been pretty much hunting animals/fish/birds. That's why most animals instinctively run away from us, we've been dabbing on them for so long that "avoid mutated monkeys" has been etched into their genetic code LMAO.

                Anyway over time our digestive system kept getting smaller and smaller so it seems we've mostly lost the ability to ferment and break down cellusose from plants. Hell our teeth are getting so small that you hear people crying about making their steak MOAR TENDER all the time. That's why we beat our meat all the time lol.

                That said depending on your race you may be able to break down more plant material and have adaptations to all the anti-nutrients plants produce but overall humans just don't seem to be compatible with plant diets anymore.

                Why do you think we have to get wisdom teeth pulled out?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we have to get wisdom teeth pulled out?
                you don't, i still got mine no problems whatsoever

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So why do vegans fart all the time?
                I don't think they do? Dairy and cruciferous vegetables are the only things that have made me fart, because we're not supposed to eat those things. Maybe they eat too many brussels sprouts. But dairy is way worse.
                >fat/protein is the demon
                I don't think protein is a demon, I think protein is important, but fat should be limited. Just because you can survive on something doesn't mean it's optimal.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >because we're not supposed to eat those things.
                Everyone is different. I don't get gas from dairy. And if you regularly eat vegetables or beans or whatever usually your gut flora will adapt and digest it better so you'll eventually stop getting gas.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >when mommy wants me to eat my broccoli and I have to explain to her what a "MongolChad" is again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *farts*

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i never feel better mentally and physically than when i'm living off purely salmon and cottage cheese, maybe and avocado or a tomato and babybel thrown in as snacks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I feel pretty good and my diet is mostly cheese

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would say stop fasting and eat more sugar from fruit and milk, which are the only foods literally designed to be food

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Birds absorb the yolk while hatching and use that as food.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good point, and now that I think about honey also probably qualifies

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait so that's why I always felt like throwing up whenever I had a salad in high school, PESTICIDES?

    How the frick are salads even legal? This seems like something we should be banning. WTF

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What could I be doing better in my diet ?
    >I've never felt better
    So this just a meme thread then huh?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just another keto shill looking for an excuse to fight about his diet and explain all the deep reasons why he refuses to eat his vegetables.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        This. I hardly ever see a vegan shill thread and this kind of shit from ketoschizos come up almost daily.

        I think both keto and carnivore diets are pretty extreme but they do have a point concerning pesticides. You're just not going to be exposed to as many if you eat a lot of animal sources of food because of their liver/kidneys filtering said pesticides.

        Maybe someday they'll put livers and kidneys on tomato plants? Frick that sounds scary tbh senpai.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of but at least it might help some anons avoid getting beetus. Hell it might even help them lose weight which depending on the severity might actually be enough to put it in remission.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just another keto shill looking for an excuse to fight about his diet and explain all the deep reasons why he refuses to eat his vegetables.

      This. I hardly ever see a vegan shill thread and this kind of shit from ketoschizos come up almost daily.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >just meat and dairy, fasting every other day
    I could not do this, if I did I'd need to have intestinal surgery from the blockage. You need some fiber man

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're fine just add leafy greens. Kale and spinach.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Raping and pillaging was the only thing Mongols were decent at. Look at them now.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its time to admit that certain races absorb nutrients and even calories differently. I had an Asian friend who ate thousands of calories over what realistically he should be daily, with a sedentary lifestyle, and he never gained weight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Asians apparently store more fat around their organs. They can have the issues of obesity while not looking obese. They're more likely to develop diabetes at lower levels of being overweight too.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You’re missing some freshly cracked black pepper on the steak. Otherwise, you do you senpai

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or you could enjoy the steak instead of adding lectins and other harmful substances to your steak.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about other people, but I'm on carnivore for weight loss, which means I'm on it because no other diet works as well, at least for me.
    When I add spice(or vegetables of any kind), sugar, or even too much casein (cheese and low fat milk), I can't feel satiated from my meals. I feel hungry again within a day and my inflammation spikes. I hear that an anti-inflammatory diet of any composition is bound to reverse certain conditions, and not taking fat and sugar in high doses helps alleviate my type 2 diabetes.
    Going full herbivore or omnivore wouldn't work for me, since the veggies and sugar would make me hungry all of the time, if there is high fat it would work with sugar to make my diabetes worse, if it's not anti-inflammatory it would make my health worse, and I wouldn't be able to get as many nutrients readily and easily as I can on carnivore. Fat-soluble vitamins are necessary to thrive, so why ditch my current method for merely surviving in a declining and wretched state?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think cats are the biggest proof that we're supposed to be eating mostly meat. I mean think about it, these things are often comically small but will fricking anihilate ecosystems if left unchecked. Which is EXCACTLY what's happening in australia. They've literally gonicded like billions if not trillions of birds and most of the time they do it for sport just like humans LOL.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/australias-cats-kill-two-billion-animals-annually-180977235/

    Anyway my point is it's mostly homosexual/downie animals eating 100% plant diets like pandas/koalas. I seriously doubt humans evolved to be as smart as they are today because they hunted kale all the time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Anyway my point is it's mostly homosexual/downie animals eating 100% plant diets like pandas/koalas. I seriously doubt humans evolved to be as smart as they are today because they hunted kale all the time.
      The diet of all apes is around 98% plants, mostly fruit and nuts. The only meat they eat is insects and occasionally each other when territory scraps get bad enough to kill one of them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Chimps dont kill small animals and eat their meat
        Huh? Dude stop coping, a heavy meat diet with a few fruits and tubers is better than whatever vegetarians/vegans eat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All apes except for humans, for obvious reasons already stated. I don't need to read the rest of your argument, as it's standard misinterpretation of what a human is and isn't.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >All apes except for humans, for obvious reasons already stated.
          Yeah no there are no "obvious reasons" why humans are more similar to CATS than apes. You're ridiculous.
          >I don't need to read the rest of your argument, as it's standard misinterpretation of what a human is and isn't.
          You're literally comparing humans to cats as if they're similar at all dumbfrick. I'm comparing humans to our closest genetic relatives. And I think the stupidest part of your posts is that it hinges on the assumption that cats are "smart." They're not smart.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Australia wants to go to war with them (specifically feral cats ofc). How could they be "stupid" if they're starting to piss off the most 1337 apex predators of this entire planet? We LITERALLY cut off their balls because we know what they're capable of once they go feral.

            You're completely missing my point. When taking size into account, cats are OUTRAGEOUSLY intelligent for their size. Maybe not as smart as gorillas but if you look up all the cool things they can do they might be something like 70% as intelligent. For example anyone who's owned them for a very long time will tell you that these little demons can understand you. If they had human vocal cords they would do nothing but call you "Black person" all day long. I'm legitimately being serious, it's well understood that cats see humans as giant defective moronic "cats". That's why they bring dead birds/mice into the house, in their view they're trying to help the big moronic "cat" not starve to death.

            Barn cats are one of the MOST effective methods of getting rid of mice. Modern human technology like snap/glue traps often completely fail to catch the mice that these cats are able to genocide.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >cat shill
              >muh "cats are SO SMART they think humans are THEIR pets"
              Gtfo with your toxoplasmosis gondii

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This only applies to outdoor cats. Modern indoor cats don't even know how to catch a mouse anymore so it's virtually impossible for them to get infected with parasites especially if you take them to the vet on a regular basis like a responsible pet owner.

                Of course some morons don't understand these things are miniature version of satan himself and opt to not cut off their balls. Eventually the cat hoarde escapes containment and they get infected with parasites by eating mice/birds outdoors and then spread it amongst themselves.

                THAT is the real source of the "crazy cat lady" trope. Some wench with a single indoor cat that's been neutered and gets taken to the vet on a regular basis isn't going to get infected with parasites.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They're 1 gorrillion times bigger than cats yet they don't do the same damage. You're missing the point. Otherwise bigger would seemingly = TOTAL BIRD DEATH.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Anyway my point is it's mostly homosexual/downie animals eating 100% plant diets like pandas/koalas. I seriously doubt humans evolved to be as smart as they are today because they hunted kale all the time.
          The diet of all apes is around 98% plants, mostly fruit and nuts. The only meat they eat is insects and occasionally each other when territory scraps get bad enough to kill one of them.

          Gorillas would rip all of you in half and they eat no meat.
          They're digestive tract is also much different from humans, just like cats.
          In summation stop acting like random animals diets are the same as humans.
          have a nice day.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So can a panda, in theory. I'm talking about small apex predators in general. Humans are analogous to cats because we are ALSO comically small to other giant animals yet we genocide them all the time.

            Meat eaters = smart as frick. Foxes are another great example because we constantly SEETHE at these frickers killing our chickens all the time. It doesn't matter how much you invest in technology to protect chickens, these frickers will eventually figure out a weak point and genocide at least one of your chickens.

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5985087/Urban-fox-numbers-rise-one-pictured-chook-mouth-suburban-yard.html

            I think it has to do with nutrition density and brain complexity. There's just MOAR "brain food" in 1 CM cubed of meat than there is in 1 CM cubed of any plant matter. When animals primarily eat the latter they tend to LITERALLY have smooth brains (ie koalas). Why do you think that is?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Humans are analogous to cats because we are ALSO comically small to other giant animals yet we genocide them all the time.
              What giant animals have cats genocided? Cats exclusively kill animals that are smaller than them like mice and birds. Humans are not "analagous to cats" in any way except for in your schizo brain.
              >Meat eaters = smart as frick.
              Cats are dumb as frick and so are dogs, lions, snakes and most other meat eaters. HUNTING =/= INTELLIGENCE. The smartest animals besides humans are apes. Apes are herbivores. Do you really think cats are smarter than APES? This is the dumbest post I've ever read.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Diets are for women, just eat whatever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's the whole reason obesity/diabetes is out of fricking control everywhere. Just because we dominate this entire planet with impunity over every other lifeform doesn't mean evolution doesn't apply to us. There really are things we just haven't evolved to eat and it's poisoning us.

      The most obvious example are modern sugar diets. Vegans are the most DISGUSTING people to be around because they won't stop farting all the time. No amount of showering can make up for the fact they you're a walking gas chamber.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I fart a lot to, but it's from anxiety-induced gastritis. I'm not saying it sugars all day, but don't care about it too much, if your diet sound healthy it probably is. Vegans and ketogays both have overrepresentation of gays.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Farting is just a side effect though. It's the obesity/diabetes that's the real problem because both of those things make people moronic long term. In fact it's possible that a vegan is more stupid than a carnivore who drinks booze all the time.

          [...]

          Yup this. Kids end up in the hospital for eating sunflower seeds all the time. Vegans sure do love having industrial grade blenders in their kitchen, I wonder why that is...

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    And my diet is 80% fruit and I can say the same thing. Gut issues have very little to do with your diet. They are almost entirely caused by bacterial overgrowth in your intestines and that can happen regardless of diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, people just don't want to be rude and comment on how bad you smell.

      [...]
      >Carnivore diet
      How many lbs of meat do you shove down your throat each day?

      The stuff is so nutrient dense I can honestly have steak and eggs for lunch and nearly skip dinner. Sometimes I feel like I'm forcing myself to eat against my will tbh senpai.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >people just don't want to be rude and comment on how bad you smell.
        Lol "Keto crotch" is so common it's a known phenomenon
        https://uqora.info/blogs/learning-center/how-to-avoid-keto-crotch
        https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-keto-crotch-2019-2
        https://www.drberg.com/blog/what-is-keto-crotch

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >some women
          >15 week study

          You don't have the slightest clue how ketosis works, do you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Than you for transferring your daily allotted meat portion to someone else.
          Allows me to eat meat guilt free.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >your only diet options are being keto or vegan, there is no middle ground, if someone criticises keto then it must mean that they're a vegan
            I can't wait until testing gets good enough that we can identify and abort autistic fetuses before they're born.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I talked about meat though, you projected and thought i dont eat greens.
              Aborting morons is feels much more productive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Nah, people just don't want to be rude and comment on how bad you smell.
        I know when I fart, son. Are you really so fat that you don't notice when you do? Why would eating fruit make someone smell bad?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Cellulose isn't digested by the human body but bacteria which then go on to produce zyklon B. Look it up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >cellulose
            We're talking about fruit, you disingenuous little homosexual. Most fruit has very little cellulose and even if it had more, it's not a revelation that humans don't digest insoluble fiber.

            Is this your position now? Having any fiber in your diet is bad for you?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you strip away the cellulose you literally get candy. Whether or not fiber is a requirement for human health isn't something anybody can say with certainty but what is understood is that bacteria will digest it and convert it into farts.

              It's very strange when you think about the whole MUH ENVIORNMENT rhetoric spouted by hardcore vegans yet they're literally polluting the enviornments themselves LMAO.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No one in this thread is a vegan. If the only argument you have left is blatantly lying about what other people are telling you then I guess we're done here. If you can't defend your position without misrepresenting your opponents then that's a good sign that you don't have any defense to offer.

                >If you strip away the cellulose you literally get candy.
                Fruit contains every micronutrient and every amino acid. You keep lying about this fact but denying it won't make it any less true. I understand that you're obese and autistic and you are very attached to your fad diet but being so aggressively dishonest about reality is not going to help you. I'll leave you with some more facts before I go:

                >https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02436371
                >Gut measurements of primate species do not support the contention that human digestive tract is specialized for meat-eating, especially when taking into account allometric factors and their variations between folivores, frugivores and meat-eaters. The dietary status of the human species is that of an unspecialized frugivore, having a flexible diet that includes seeds and meat (omnivorous diet).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                see image in

                https://i.imgur.com/4F1oNPm.jpg

                Babies, unlike adult morons that go vegan don't have a lot skeletal muscle built up yet. When your body doesn't receive enough of the 9 essential amino acids it starts eating itself but it's not stupid, it goes for the skeletan muscle first, brain/heart/lungs last. Babies don't have a lot of skeletal muscle built up yet so a few weeks/months on fruits/vegetables and they're a goner.

                Again there's a reason why we call those 9 amino acids "essential". It has nothing to do with feelling/opinions. Even moron vegans eventually run out of skeletal muscle and die.

                https://nypost.com/2023/08/08/truth-behind-starvation-diet-of-influencer-zhanna-dart-revealed/

                For the most part plant diets typically end in 2 ways:

                A.) To compensate for the low quality protein of plants you eat too much. You become fat, moronic, diabetic.

                B.) You don't compensate for low quality protein of plants. Your body begins eating itself and eventually it has to rip out protein from your heart/lungs/brain and you die.

                I know some physically fit vegans that don't look like POWs exist but why are they so freakishly rare? India should be FULL of physically fit vegans...

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Carnivore diet
    How many lbs of meat do you shove down your throat each day?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I get relief from a lot of my health problems with a low histamine carnivore diet. But I really miss being able to eat plants and fermented stuff. Has anyone had luck with their health improving and being able to eat other things again?

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    raw milk

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Human breast milk

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My recommendation would be to follow the siim land diet (and his lifestyle choices) as closely as possible.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/nutrition/comments/195ktpp/the_man_with_the_slowest_pace_of_aging_in_the/
    His videos from within the past year or so give a better idea of what his current regiment looks like. 4+ years ago are irrelevant since he changed a lot.
    I also recently found Pottenger's Human who has similar ideas but makes some minor adjustments that I think are worth looking into:

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I fast one day and eat the next because I'm a lazy frick that can't be asked to cook every single day
    Meal prep, my dude.
    You come across as being really picky for someone larping as a Mongolian.

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