Whats the deal with these crazy expensive wines?

Whats the deal with these crazy expensive wines?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A fool and his money are easily parted

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a fool
      Can you tell me why it would be foolish of me to purchase OP's wine over, say, Chilean gas station wine?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        there is none. the difference between a $10 wine and a $60 wine is greater than the difference between a $60 wine and a $500 wine.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          diminishing marginal returns

          you get it with whisky as well, a £80 bottle is really nice and two extra zeroes on the end tastes maybe 10% better

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          diminishing marginal returns

          you get it with whisky as well, a £80 bottle is really nice and two extra zeroes on the end tastes maybe 10% better

          It's not just diminishing returns
          most reasonably experienced wine drinkers can readily tell the difference between a $10-20 bottle of wine and one costing $50-100, but very few can tell the difference between a $50-100 bottle and one costing $500 or more
          At least with whiskey you can sort of tell the difference and tell yourself it was worth it just to say you did, spending big on wine is an empty exercise

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            plus liquors give you many servings and the flavor holds up much better.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >very few can tell the difference between a $50-100 bottle and one costing $500
            that's because the only difference is marketing wank

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The law of diminishing returns - Hi-Fi is another good example.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            All luxury items are like this
            A Mercedes is a huge step up from a Hyundai, a Rolls Royce a small incremental gain from an S Class
            A Patek Phillipe is better looking than a Swatch but isn't functionally better
            Allen Edmonds are a big step up from a discount brand, a bespoke shoe is better but you probably won't see the gain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why it would be foolish
        because paying 1000 bucks for a bottle of booze is stupid

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would you pay a dime for something? To some people 1000 dollars is like pocket change. The price is meaningless and is driven by supply and demand. A lot of people have way more money than you do. Having said all that some wines do have very high input costs and are very good. Good wine can cost several hundred dollars a bottle. Some people have figured out how to make good wine for 50 dollars or 100 dollars. The thing is when everyone figures out the 100 dollar bottle is really good and will be even better a few years down the road the value of those bottles shoots up. The secondary market is where you see these crazy prices. The vast majority of wine is a lot less expensive when you are ordering fresh cases from the winery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats an increadibly stupid way of looking at it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why?
        t. stupid

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Those wines are like rare collectables. They never reduce in value, they only gain. Its a good investment.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like a terrible investment if you bought a bottle of wine and you failed to get inebriated from it for the sake of some currency.
            I mean I suppose one could buy several more bottles of cheaper wine but that would in the future, which greatly decreases the present, immediate, real enjoyment of the actual alcoholic juice inside that bottle. And you can't put a price on that.
            And if you did I'd pay it if I could.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you have a brain tumor? Something is wrong up there

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is the difference between appreciating some thing due to its category and quality, versus appreciating some thing ducae to other's appreciation of its category and quality.

                More than anything I am annoyed at the price tag because it gets in the way of me trying ALL the wines and determining for myself what I like best, a process which gives me much more enjoyment than speculating on the value of wines and hoarding them like a resource.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ducae
                due

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the whole worl is circles of private worlds bought into via money and social accessibility. simples as that

                frickers with money can buy a shit ton of screaming eagle drink half of it and sell the rest for giggles to makes some bucks later and likely do both

                good wine of course is extremely good

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They never reduce in value, they only gain.
            Bottles break, get corked, spoil, etc.

            It's not pure profit

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Duuuuh

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >get corked, spoil
              Not your problem, literally is a problem for the guy who buys the bottle and they should assume the risks.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Incredibly obvious fact of wine that anyone with even 5 minutes of experience would know. Who are these people screaming about wine being a ripoff?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he's 100% right though
        richgays are morons and its really easy to trick them into paying a 10000% mark-up for a $2 product

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Growing grapes, extracting the juice, fermenting the juice, and having it occupy valuable storage space for years with no guarantee that the end product will be sold (fires, natural disasters, pests, spoilage can interfere) isn't that easy.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The horrified and enraged leaders of the French wine industry then banned Spurrier from the nation's prestigious wine-tasting tour for a year, apparently as punishment for the damage his tasting had done to its former image of superiority.
      I wonder how much of a loss those "leaders" would have to take to ensure that image is based on something substantial

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Grapes are fruits and as much terroir is a thing I doubt you can only get good wines from France, its fricking obvious how this is not evident to some tards here is something that puzzles me.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Money laundering for criminals who appear as upstanding citizens from the outside.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me? It's the best pinot noir Rain Duck.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Stupid stupid b***h. Doesn't even know. She is going to get the best bottle of wine of her stupid b***h life.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like mad dog and breasts

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wine is a scam just like "modern art"

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll give you a real answer that nobody else wants to give. Higher end products differentiate themselves from mass market through vertically integrated manufacturing ("estate grown, bottled and produced"), and by labor-intensive methods.

    Any time you do that, you're limiting output, which on its own, might raise the price moderately. But once you add mass media, instant communication, global payment systems, and so on, demand for something niche can go from 1 to 100,0000 in milliseconds. You rubes are probably familiar with limited edition sneakers or GI Joe Edition jeeps, right? Well imagine that, but for a wine where there's only 1000 bottles and the people who would be into that wine are capable of paying almost any price, no matter how high.

    It doesn't make the wine a "scam" any more than it makes that GI Joe truck a "scam", it just means that most of us who don't care all that much about that EXACT wine can probably get something just as good for about $9000 less, i.e. only $100 a bottle and not $10000. It's only a "scam" if you think you're entitled to it, which makes it literally sour grapes.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Napa and burgundy are the worst offenders for price quality gauging,
    if you want some good wine go for ~10 bucks,
    amazing wine is usually 30-50
    then if you really want something premium drop a few hundred on a top tier german white, bordeaux or italian red if you dont want to totally blow your money on the winemakers mortgage (napa) or the chinese market buying all supply (burgundy)

    The new top tier US winemakers have to take loans to pay for their land, while the european winemakers have had the estate in the family for 200 years, making shit like screaming eagle, stags leap and others get moronic expensive for what you get

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based.

      The price of a bottle of wine is largely tied to the advertising qualities of its label. Anything over $10 is either historically interesting (0.1% of them0 or advertising gimmicks preying on the gift-giving market (the rest).

      moronic cope.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >trust me, it's amazing. I payed $50. they wouldn't charge me $50 if it wasn't amazing
        nice try, toddler. I know your mum told you money was a great substitute for taste, but your mum just wanted to cripple you emotionally so you'd always be by her side

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Point and case. Thanks for proving my point so nicely. 😉

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The price of a bottle of wine is largely tied to the advertising qualities of its label. Anything over $10 is either historically interesting (0.1% of them0 or advertising gimmicks preying on the gift-giving market (the rest).

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tax fraud meme that the public bought into. Like modern art.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're all chemically altered to taste.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Culinaly has the lowest average IQ of any board on this website. Yes, lower than Culinaly, lower than /misc/, lower than /b/, lower than /x/. You are all truly stupid and why you feel the need to post on a food and cooking board when most of you not only don't cook, but subsist on tendies and mcdonalds, are afraid of "ethnic food", and and on top of that all seem to be poor and have an extreme issue with sour grapes, feeling like any sort of fine dining or artisnal wine/spirit is a rip off personally targeting you. I truly pity your pathetic souls.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Culinaly is the most accessible board for normies. So you get a bunch of typical reddit posts combined with terrible attempts at shitposting. Culinaly is basically daycare for redditors.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dunno about this wine specifically but everything out of reach of dweebs on autismbux is a con to Culinaly posters
    except when it comes to gay shit like thousand dollar magic the gathering cards

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Olema cab and jlohr october nights is as expensive as I'll spend 30bucks and its best I've had

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      only available during the fall

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a trick to fool idiots to give their money for a crafty businessman.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have had a few 200 dollar ones. Non of them were anywhere as good as most random 25 dollar bottles i isually buy. But i suppose there is a big difference between the 200 dollar ones and the 2K ones. Even if poorgays like to cope otherwise

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sheeps are meant to be sheared

    Seriously, while expensive wine is better than what I make i find the quality mostly unrelated to price.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cheap bulk wine is made with a lot of preservatives, cleaners, flavour shortcuts, chemical shortcuts, cheap corks or screw tops, etc. Stuff made to drink quickly, won't age well or even at all, non-complex flavours.
    Expensive wine is either a marketing scam, or a reflection of the money spent on making the wine (or both sometimes). Filtering is expensive, angel's share evaporation is expensive, hand-picking is expensive (machine harvesting is a really dirty process), storage is expensive, barrels are expensive, good land is expensive, the governments pound of flesh is expensive, hand pruning is expensive, etc.
    The amount of money you have to spend to go from one category to the other is going to change country to country, but $10 bottles are $10 for a reason. Anecdotally, you have to spend more money in NA than you do in Europe to get a bottle that isn't garbage though.
    t. done vineyard work

    >Why are some bottles thousands of dollars though?
    Because someone is willing to buy them lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what a real analysis of wine prices looks like. Pay attention poorgays.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's a wine that'll clean your colon out? something to make a biological sistine chapel?

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