Why do you still listen to the US government for dietary guidelines?

Why do you still listen to the US government for dietary guidelines?
They are the unhealhtiest, most obese country in the world.
It's like taking advice from an obese person on how to lose weight.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what did they say causes it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're right. Eat a burger for lunch every single fricking day for 50 years and you'll be fine. YOU choose to be a moronic fat pig and get a large order of fries and a bucket of HFCS to wash it down with, that's not on the restaurant.

      Fat morons like OP eating too much and not moving enough. Also fatties are either ignorant about nutrition or just lie about what they eat, can't even tell you how many fat b***hes will count an 800 calorie Dunkin milkshake as "just a coffee".
      >t. Culinaly

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        big mac guy has actual mental disorders and eats them compulsively. we also know nothing about his actual health other than that he doesn't eat over his caloric expenditure.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Spoken like a true queer homosexual. Happy pride month, numbnuts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eating too much
        Damn, maybe it's related to all the shitty processed food never making you satiated
        >not moving enough
        Damn, maybe it's related to all the shitty processed food taking you for a rollercoaster ride of spiking your insuling to all hell, then dropping it alongside crashing your energy levels

        If you remove the element of will from your diet recommendations, it's not a diet, it's just a measurement how much food you need to burn to boil a certain amount of water, with some minerals included.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >element of will
          Will is not a static element. It's something you can train and increase. In fact, it only develops through active effort. You can learn that feeling hungry doesn't really do that much to you. You can learn that you can still work through lethargy.

          What is with this constant and ubiquitous obsession in modern culture of protecting giving in to any and every mood, appetite, and desire? You don't have to go all stoic, but pure hedonistic nihilism is fricking moronic. It's like the unattended toddler making themselves sick from eating a whole bowl of candy, but without the excuse of not knowing better.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >YOU choose to be a moronic fat pig and get a large order of fries and a bucket of HFCS to wash it down with
        the point is high-processed slop is digested a lot quicker and makes you hungry a lot sooner, hence why in REALITY it causes obesity and America is full of diabetes riddled fatties that the government clearly holds in contempt.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's right, we're all victims and the totinos pizza rolls magically finds its way into fatties mouths. AHH SAVE ME Black personMAN

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >totinos pizza rolls magically finds its way into fatties mouths
            No moron, but the government deliberately misconstruing the facts is not helping the problem. You know the government is suppose to help people, right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do people give a shit? Is it going to stop the morning karens ingesting their handfuls of refined sugar at starbucks? I don't think the greeks live to 120 because their government tells them what to do.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t.doeurofatts really
        some takeaway maybe some kfc double down augh

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is exactly what I was going to say. Technically, the statement they're making is correct: ultra-processed food isn't good for you but it won't make you obese. The thing that makes you obese is eating too much food. You can do that with fresh fruit, too - it'll take a lot more fruit than burgers to do it but it's entirely possible.
        Fat fricks just don't know how to understand nuance.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >most obese country in the world.
    Technically you can eat nothing but ultra-processed food and maintain a normal weight if you count calories and actually pay more attention, but it makes obesity more likely. Most studies I've looked at have said the biggest change in a diet to lose weight no matter what else you do is to just cut out ultra-processed food.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >showing a bunch of miconations, essentially proving my point
      ya stupid

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it doesn't count because uh
        whatever

        usa has neither the highest obesity percentage or highest total number of obese people. what metric are you then using to say the usa is the most obese?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you won the argument bro, a bunch of micro nations in the pacific ocean have higher obesity rates than the usa destroying the essence of my argument entirely
          dunno why you're acting as though you didnt just epicly own me and got away with a victory royale that you rightfully deserve

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            benis

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              is it to anyone's surprise that you have reoccuring spontaneous fantasies involving male genitalia?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bagina

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bagina

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          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This guy thinks whites are the majority of the globe
            >no one show him global demographics
            Jk you can't find them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/sPk1WxU.jpeg

        >most obese country in the world.
        Technically you can eat nothing but ultra-processed food and maintain a normal weight if you count calories and actually pay more attention, but it makes obesity more likely. Most studies I've looked at have said the biggest change in a diet to lose weight no matter what else you do is to just cut out ultra-processed food.

        being real, almost all of those top 10 are random shitty ""independent"" island nations owned by Australia and New Zealand.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don't try to argue with brainlets

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I figured op was full of shit. Then they go into a tizzy when someone calls them out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >showing a bunch of miconations, essentially proving my point
      ya stupid

      Arabs and Pacific Islanders I understand, but how do Romanians eat that well?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        don't think those rankings are very accurate

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    never since this scam

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rofl man I haven't seen this since I was a kid. Aside from the fat and sugar the pyramid really is upside down. I remember growing up in the 90s everyone was utterly obsessed with "fat-free" food. Didn't matter if it was loaded with sugar or full of carbs. I can't get over milk/cheese/meat/nuts layer being where it is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >doctor bias from the government board of political bias finds non government studies against the product they are suppose to promote to be incorrect. sources close to those who know what the local rich peeople are thinking say that they agree.

        >loaded with sugar

        because the literal israelite who was put in charge of government health studies took kick backs from the sugar industry (owned by israelites) to write fake studies that proved 'fat' made people fat. coincidently he left no proof of his studies because he was such a trusted expert and it took almost 40 years for goyim to have the balls to call him out on his bullshit and discover his fraud.

        >why hate meat and milk
        because small family owned (white) farms controlled the meat and milk supply.

        The food pyramid is literal proof /misc/ is right and that there is a literal evil group of people in our society who intentionally want to cause regular people harm for literally no reason other than because they can.

        i will see you gentlemen in 3 days.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weren't we told all our childhoods to "drink milk"?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I remember growing up in the 90s everyone was utterly obsessed with "fat-free" food. Didn't matter if it was loaded with sugar or full of carbs
        My dad had coronary artery disease with a triple bypass in his early 40s and he started eating Twizzlers because they advertised themselves as low fat/fat free. I think it's just poor education, there's no way a doctor told him to do that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doctors say what corporations tell them to say. I had ulcerative colitis in my early 20s and no doctor I saw, including the specialists, asked me a single question about my diet. they dont even care about you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I worked at a grocery store back then and it was hell (ok, mildly annoying) when Snackwells came out because women thought they could eat as many of them as they wanted because they were fat-free. It took four or five months before we could reliably keep them in stock on the shelves without someone coming in and buying us out.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God I miss those things.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God I miss those things.

          Strangely, I do now, too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair, people were more active when the food pyramid was made.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but saying you should eat a shit ton of bread and limit veggies and lean meat is just a blatant lie

        this lie was used to justify school lunches and enormous food subsidies and a corporate monoculture agriculture and processed food system that inculcated unhealthy eating habits and has caused millions of deaths in the 20th century alone

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the fact that these guidelines, which are just demonstrably false by any metric (bread is turned into sugar which they admit is bad), were used as the basis for all dietary guidance just proves that we are being controlled by psychopathic satanists who hate humanity and are actively harming us as much as possible in a deliberate insult to God

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, gods or demons aren't real. It's not about childish hate on humanity, it's all about profits. They want more money

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The bottom portion of the pyramid was actually meant to be WHOLE GRAINs, but the bread industries insisted this includes highly processed stuff like white bread and pasta.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          actually half of it can be refined because they are fortified. if at were all whole grains it would be a woefully deficient diet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >6-11 servings

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2 slices of bread with each meal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >3 meals a day
          What a fricking fatty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that picture ruined my life. I was a fat kid, and I ate a lot of bread because of this.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i listen to stan efferding now. i'm much happier. he may be full of shit, too, but i don't care. i'm healthier and happier, and if i die of heart disease, that's fine.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >US government's top diet advisors
    Show me a picture of them

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You guys to it all wrong.
    Every animal on Earth lives best off of what they eat in nature.

    In nature, humans eat a LOT of bread and vegetables and then fruit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      humans live best on a varied diet because in the wild we would eat whatever we could get our hands on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        im not going to watch that documentary for boomers or click through every single source

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'll bite, what would've humans eaten in "nature"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nuts.
        Fish.
        Berries.
        Brontosaurus.
        Not bread.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cooked meat (all meat, not just muscule), cooked veggies. Fruits can be disregarded because modern fruits are all genetically modified by humans for more sugar and bigger fruit size.
        We're the descendants of cooking apes. Small stomach, for already partially processed food, big brain for intmaxxing to use fire and tools

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Every animal on Earth lives best off of what they eat in nature.
      We've genetically adapted to farming and an increase of starchy food in our diets. We literally produce more enzymes in our saliva to break down starchy food now than people from over 10,000 years ago.

      Nuts.
      Fish.
      Berries.
      Brontosaurus.
      Not bread.

      Starchy food wasn't as big of a part of our diet before agriculture, but there is evidence of hunter-gatherers making bread from wild grains and tubers a few thousand years before we began farming. And evidence farther back of starches being consumed.

      The issue with carbs in the modern day is that they're heavily refined and stripped of most of their nutrition, not that starch is inherently bad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In nature, humans eat a LOT of bread and vegetables and then fruit.
      how can you be this moronic
      I guess it's the lack of animal protein

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were being sarcastic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/iKIGysa.gif

      never since this scam

      The food pyramid was never just about health. It's a combination of health and economics with the upper limit of complexity being that a black person needs to be able to understand it. With those goals in mind, I challenge you to come up with a better set of guidelines about what the country should eat.

      You should get most of your calories from grains but that's not because grain is the healthiest food, it's because it's the cheapest non-poison food to produce, and if people follow the guideline then it makes other important foods like meat and vegetables cheaper so everyone can have some. If everyone tried to eat a carnivore diet then the price of meat would skyrocket. We don't have enough meat for everyone to get most of their calories from meat. Then only rich people would eat any meat and poors wouldn't get any and they would be malnourished. We need those poors to do our manual labor, so if this happened then the price of all kinds of things requiring manual labor to construct or maintain would go up.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can accept that the food pyramid isn't the end all be all food guide while also not going full moron and implying that shoveling junk food in your mouth somehow isn't unhealthy.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ultra-processed foods
    Explain it to me like I'm a moron on Culinaly, what exactly is unhealthy about a processed food? Every time I see an article it says things like "processed foods are eaten in excess leading to poor nutrition" but that sounds to me the problem isn't the food it's eating it exclusively? What's the difference between me baking a potato then sprinkling some salt/pepper on it, versus slicing it up, frying it with some seasoning? Why is one okay but the other apparently food-AIDS?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what exactly is unhealthy about a processed food?
      Just processed? Not much. Like you mentioned, cooking or preparing something is technically processing it.
      Ultra-processed foods are the real problem as they're stripped of many (if not all) of the nutrients that may have been present, and supplemented with refined fats and sugars to create something palatable. The result is calorically dense with little to no nutritional value, usually unrecognizable from it's original state or even a totally artificial creation.

      It's the difference between a breakfast of
      >fried potatoes
      >eggs
      >orange juice
      >coffee with cream
      and
      >pringles
      >just™ egg
      >sunkist
      >coffee with flavored non-dairy substitute

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sunkist
        You mean Sunny D and count me in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they have huge amounts of microplastics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the body can't recognize when it eaten too much processed food (which are very dense in the 'nutrients'), unlike with unprocessed food which it have to work to break down.
      So you don't feel full when eating ultra-processed servings. So it is easy to overeat.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't listen to anything the government says. Something happened in the middle of the last century, and our rulers began to despise us.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know whose fault it all is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        White Christian nationalists, of course.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Noooooo no no no nooo no no

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Careful, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and our rulers began to despise us.
      Because everyone in the gooberment is now israeli. So naturally they hate us all except their own kind.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    <1% of Americans fully adhere to the dietary guidelines (i.e. have a HEI score of 100). Fruit is intolerable to 80% of them. 90% won't eat a salad every day. >95% can't stand a bowl of oatmeal.
    <25% of Americans meet the physical activity guidelines. Are those bogus as well? You're just throwing an ad hominem, and a terribly unfounded one at that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not an ad hominem, you've basically proven yourself wrong because you've just admitted that the dietary guidelines and physical activity guidelines are not sustainable for the average American, making them virtually useless, in regards of execution and in regards of experimentation.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah as in the average american is a fricking idiot who eats like a child. when was the last time your buddy said "yeah I'm trying to eat healthier by adhering to federal dietary guidelines" versus "I can't remember the last time I ate something green."

        https://i.imgur.com/LRwcWN6.png

        <1% of Americans fully adhere to the dietary guidelines (i.e. have a HEI score of 100). Fruit is intolerable to 80% of them. 90% won't eat a salad every day. >95% can't stand a bowl of oatmeal.
        <25% of Americans meet the physical activity guidelines. Are those bogus as well? You're just throwing an ad hominem, and a terribly unfounded one at that.

        to be fair something like 3/4ths of japanese women report having constipation due to lack of dietary fiber. the only people who realistically meet those standards regularly are rural greeks when they're not busy pretending to work.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >due to lack of dietary fiber.
          HEY moron! YEAH, (YOU). NOBODY NEEDS FIBER! NOBODY!!! STOP PERPETUATING THIS BULLSHIT!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            there is probably at least one person who needs fiber

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sustainability is pure distraction. DGAC's goal is to define what constitutes a healthy diet based on currently available evidence. The majority of adults on the street struggle with math at a very remedial level too, yet a portion of the population *does* obtain mathematical literacy and enters engineering, finance, or some other occupation in which mathematical thinking is strictly required. The future economic prosperity of a nation is directly dependent of the quality of the latter's early education, so math classes are still mandatory for schoolkids in many parts of the world, despite the former not benefiting much from them. They are simply not the target audience, and their existence and incompetence doesn't render math classes useless in any way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't really acquire high-quality evidence if, as you've just stated, less than 1% of Americans follow the dietary guidelines to begin with.
          "Let the results speak for themselves", should be the motto for health.
          Look at large nations with very healthy populations, such as Japan and try to copy their dietary habits, such as "stop eating when you feel 80% full" and what they eat in general.

          Research will always be subject to bias, I mean, we've been through the fat scare, the red meat scare, the dietary cholesterol scare, and these were all "scientifically sourced".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Look at large nations with very healthy populations, such as Japan
            Ecological cross-sectional cross-country data is extremely low quality evidence.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're just as human as a Japanese person, don't be silly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Heck yeah, that's why I drink milk as a black dude. The study on 12 white European dudes showed it greatly improved health. For some reason I have diarrhea all the time, but I trust the science.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the implication?
                Lactose tolerance is a unique evolution, while virtually anyone can eat fish, rice and meat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Research will always be subject to bias
            brainlets who truly do not understand how research is performed always default to this

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Trusting le science is how we get circumcision in first world countries.
              Please stop spreading your dangerous ideology that involves the worship of research.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                incorrect, the israeli sky daddy is why american mutilate their kids wieners, putting them next to other first-world countries like burkina faso, afghanistan, and the phillipines.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We do know how research is TRULY performed, homosexuals lie constantly and lies are 153000% more likely to be used as basis for more lies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so true. this is why I only eat butter, raw liver, and my morning urine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I AM SILLY
                Science folk sure gets mad when you bring up facts lol maybe you should have an egg to calm you down if science says it's healthy this week LMAO

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DAS RITE, worship the israelite raised by the cuck or else...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >have a nice day
                that's how you go to hell, idiot LMAO

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Proof?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >show proof
                >NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
                Just go see for yourself and report back :^)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                100 years ago people ate 10x more butter than they do today, and they weren't fat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                100 years ago people were 5'6", chainsmoked through asbestos filters in hospitals, inhaled leaded gas fumes and died at 55

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >100 years ago people were 5'6"
                In Brazil, not in America. Stop lying.
                >died at 55
                Life expectancy was substantially suppressed by wars, infections (Penicillin wasn't mass produced until the 1940s), and workplace safety standards. But how does ANY of that explain the child obesity rates?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/HGPbnf2.gif

                You can't hand-wave this away by citing adult life expectancy rates or any other bullshit modern apologia. Raise a kid like it was 100 years ago and he won't get fat. Raise a kid like it's the modern era and the odds of him turning into a whale are WORSE THAN RUSSIAN ROULETTE.

                try again sweetie, I'm an american patriot who doesn't use your communist graduations.
                >how does ANY of that explain the child obesity
                why should I care about kids? line them up back into the mines, frick em

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >americans getting fatter isn't a concern because they also got taller
                Average fatass mentality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                simply not my problem. The data is out there, everyone knows eating slop is bad for you, the government publishes finger-wagging recommendations that no one reads. why should I care about the deliberate choices of impulsive manchildren and their disgusting offspring?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then you concede the point that modern ultra-processed slop is bad for you, and the government claiming otherwise is lying. Great, glad we resolved this matter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So which NIH paper or policy recommendation is promoting processed food in dietary guidelines? I'll wait.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of them recommend unsaturated fats like vegetable oils moron,

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You clearly don't understand the classification of processed food. Does wheat become a processed food by the NIH when it gets dehulled and milled? Coconut oil when it gets copra processed? Try harder boy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >whataboutism
                i accept your concession

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                got it, no evidence then. Sad!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                All of them recommend unsaturated fats like vegetable oils moron,

                You lost,

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                got it, no evidence then. Sad!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                got it, no evidence then. Sad!

                Whenever I see posts like this, I take it to mean that the poster knows they're wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I feel a jowel movement coming on

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can't hand-wave this away by citing adult life expectancy rates or any other bullshit modern apologia. Raise a kid like it was 100 years ago and he won't get fat. Raise a kid like it's the modern era and the odds of him turning into a whale are WORSE THAN RUSSIAN ROULETTE.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's amazing looking at random charts of US data and seeing Reagan's presidency turn up as an inflection point in each and every one. Reagan was the worst thing to happen to this country.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                believe it or not I still am 5'6"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japan has the same rate of diabetes as the USA.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I get literally the opposite result when I google your post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >According to the CDC, 11.6% of the US population, or 38.4 million people, had diabetes in 2021.
                >As of 2021, 11.8% of Japan's adult population has diabetes
                This is what I get when searching "USA diabetes rate" and "Japan diabetes rate". What do you get?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh I see. USA rate of diabetes is closer to 15% for adults only.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Culinaly has solved this issue literally decades ago

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based, but muscle meat is inferior to organ meat in every way (except for taste, maybe)

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesnt matter really
    a Danish Pharma company has made a new anti obesity drug on accident that actually fricking works, has no side effects and once demand gets met will be really cheap.
    its a big enough deal that in the last month this company has made so much money that it's worth more than the entire rest of Denmark's GDP.
    other pharma companies and fast food companies are fricking quaking, while world govts are rejoicing because finally they can stop wasting 2/3rd of their healthcare budget on fatfricks who cant put the fricking Oreos down

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You gotta hope that shit doesn't get a perma-ban from the US gov't though because it threatens the goyslop makers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You gotta hope that shit doesn't get a perma-ban from the US gov't though because it threatens the goyslop makers.

      Why would fast food companies not be totally on board with something that removes the biggest downside of their product?
      If anything, it'd be the pharmaceutical companies that need fat fricks to stay dependent on their medications.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why would fast food companies not be totally on board with something that removes the biggest downside of their product?
        Because the way the medicine works is that it suppresses appetite, meaning people will buy fewer products.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No side effects are known on these new drugs, doesn’t mean there won’t be any long term.

      Looking forward to news in 20 years that Ozempic and derivatives melt your brain or inhibit some vital organ function.

      Literally had a doctor try to prescribe some weight loss med then try to tell me fasting will give me heart disease. Corrupt fricks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ozempic has plenty of documented side effects. Any new drug the FDA clears goes through several rounds of testing, don't be a fat moron.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Weight loss isn’t fricking rocket science. Move more, eat healthy portions of foods that aren’t heavy in unhealthy oils, corn syrup, sugar, transfats and polyunsaturated fats, and maybe do occasional 24hr+ fasts to get your body burning existing fat reserves for fuel.

          If you do all of the following, you will lose weight, have less bloating/swelling, and regulate your appetite to avoid binging, and lose intense cravings

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            duh. Linda, 53 doesn't want to do that shit so she gets a prescription. even squirts out a few extra babies on the side

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm waiting for the day they halt all those drugs because of delayed kidney failure or whatever. Fatties don't get a shortcut because they don't deserve a shortcut.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If anything they'd fake issues like that like they're faking issues with hemp thc now, because it's more profitable for them to sell an actually bad alternative.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally had a doctor try to prescribe some weight loss med then try to tell me fasting will give me heart disease. Corrupt fricks
        You actually can get heart disease from fasting. You can also die as a result of fasting.
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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this just another -tide like sema/tirz/reta or is it some new class of drug

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the "bias" is like people who say asking blacks how many oranges do you have if you add 3 oranges to 1 orange is makes the test white supremacist because they didn't say chitins.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's not WHAT people eat, it's how MUCH
    calories in, calories out. period.
    americans eat too much and walk too little.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eat less
      >move more
      >avoid beige food

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to believe portion control accounts for why literally everyone has gotten fat--women, children, people of all age groups, races, social classes. There's gotta be an endocrine disruptor in something people eat these days. Part of the reason the recent drug is so effective is because it stops people from 'feeling' hungry. So my guess is something else is causing them to not feel satiated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      food is simply denser. more calories in a tighter package so people eat until they "feel" full and end up having consumed more calories than they need. wouldn't be a problem except those same people don't really do anything to use them all up. they drive to work and drive back just to sit on the sofa or lay in bed on their phones.
      combine this with the fact that the more frequently you have bigger meals, the harder it is to feel full (thus people continue having big meals) and you've got a culture of fatties

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably all the 5G they're spraying on the food and the vaccinated celery you fricking idiot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the disruptor is the fact children grow up without knowing what hunger is. They have calorie dense food available at all times, this fricks up their reward system because it expects food at all times. In the past people had to work hard to get food, and it wasn't always available unless you were rich. Solution is making the kid wait for 2 hours to get food after they complained they feel hungry

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The kids will just lie and complain about being hungry 3 hours early

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >screenshot of a headline of news reporting of scientific guidelines
    yeah this is how i get all my information and i consider myself a well informed person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most people who consider themselves well-informed don't even read the headline.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like a cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Neither do microplastics. What's the point?

      I don't have to open the poop bag to know what's inside.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do you still listen to the US government for dietary guidelines?
    I don't, I have study bun out. I no longer pay attention to anything anyone tells me is healthy or not. especially here.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mafia investigated mafia and found out the mafia did nothing wrong

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    technically it's true as long as you follow CICO. The reason people tend to get fatter when they eat ultra-processed foods is that they are calorie-dense and don't fill you up. So it's a lot harder to limit your calories if you eat a ton of processed food, but if you do limit your calories, you wouldn't get fat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >follow CICO
      most of the time, this is just the honest truth.
      Processed foods have the fiber removed, thus preventing satiety, and without some fullness, like a fruit bar vs whole fruit, you might overeat. It's a stretch.

      Anyway, I thought the danger of processed foods was added sugars in glazing and browning additions, and nitrites in preserved foods for carcinogen risks.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish they still had a "negative fat" frying oil like Olestra as an option at places like KFC or McDonald's, in addition to soybean oil.
    Imagine how cool it would be if you eat like 40 McNuggets and 5 large french fries in one sitting, and still lose weight. Or imagine eating an entire 16 piece bucket of extra crispy fried chicken with a large side of mac and cheese, and still losing weight, even without drinking a diet soda. Hell, you could probably drink a regular soda with your Olestra-enriched foods and STILL lose weight!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Olestra
      it caused violently occuring diarrhea, didn't it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it caused violently occuring diarrhea, didn't it?
        How else do you expect the human body to delete all those extra calories in a short amount of time? If you can think of a better way to eat massive amounts of food/calories without gaining weight, I'd love to hear what it is.
        Olestra is to dieting what steroids are to weightlifting: no effort required.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This post is utterly demonic, you just want to gorge yourself with food and have completely forgotten it's purpose
      >food with negative calories and doesn't provide sustinence
      Buy some dental dams and learn to purge if you wanna keep eating indefinitely, it's equally as horrific as what you're suggesting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This post is utterly demonic, you just want to gorge yourself with food and have completely forgotten it's purpose
        Is it really all that different from when a person might desire to have sexual intercourse with another person simply because they find that other person attractive, and not because they want to get pregnant?
        I think it would be awesome if I could eat plate after plate (or bucket after bucket) of delicious food (or extra crispy KFC) without having to worry about the consequences, beyond having to shit, which is something that 99% of us do anyway after eating food. Imagine eating a pound of crispies from Long John Silver, washing it down with a 40 of Steel Reserve, then eating 7 pounds of deep fried fish, washing THAT down with sugar-free diet soda, and then starting on 8 pounds of deep fried boneless chicken. And then all you had to do afterwards was take a dump. Just like everyone else would after eating that amount of food.
        The act of eating food should be enjoyable, like when you bite into a sausage and grease squirts everywhere, or when you eat a medium rare kobe steak and the tastes of it cause you to blow your load in your pants, or when you take a nibble from a Big Mac or an Egg McMuffin (found only at McDonald's) and you feel such gustatory ecstasy that you feel like you just had 20 orgasms in a row and you want to use the app and buy more of those sandwiches because they are a cost effective path to happiness.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          in a perfect world. when the researcher who suggested that artificial sweeteners didn't stave off cravings and paradoxically might cause overeating pepsi abruptly suspended funding for her study. even the more tangible replacements like diet soda are complicated by unpredictable human responses. "gut microbes control our mood and antibiotics use gave me anxiety" type shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Is it really all that different from when a person might desire to have sexual intercourse with another person simply because they find that other person attractive, and not because they want to get pregnant?
          no. there is no difference, and that's the problem.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This post is utterly demonic, you just want to gorge yourself with food and have completely forgotten it's purpose
        Is it really all that different from when a person might desire to have sexual intercourse with another person simply because they find that other person attractive, and not because they want to get pregnant?
        I think it would be awesome if I could eat plate after plate (or bucket after bucket) of delicious food (or extra crispy KFC) without having to worry about the consequences, beyond having to shit, which is something that 99% of us do anyway after eating food. Imagine eating a pound of crispies from Long John Silver, washing it down with a 40 of Steel Reserve, then eating 7 pounds of deep fried fish, washing THAT down with sugar-free diet soda, and then starting on 8 pounds of deep fried boneless chicken. And then all you had to do afterwards was take a dump. Just like everyone else would after eating that amount of food.
        The act of eating food should be enjoyable, like when you bite into a sausage and grease squirts everywhere, or when you eat a medium rare kobe steak and the tastes of it cause you to blow your load in your pants, or when you take a nibble from a Big Mac or an Egg McMuffin (found only at McDonald's) and you feel such gustatory ecstasy that you feel like you just had 20 orgasms in a row and you want to use the app and buy more of those sandwiches because they are a cost effective path to happiness.

        >Debate between hedonists and virtue ethicists, 1783, colorized

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >demonic
        Meds.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This post is utterly demonic, you just want to gorge yourself with food and have completely forgotten it's purpose
      Is it really all that different from when a person might desire to have sexual intercourse with another person simply because they find that other person attractive, and not because they want to get pregnant?
      I think it would be awesome if I could eat plate after plate (or bucket after bucket) of delicious food (or extra crispy KFC) without having to worry about the consequences, beyond having to shit, which is something that 99% of us do anyway after eating food. Imagine eating a pound of crispies from Long John Silver, washing it down with a 40 of Steel Reserve, then eating 7 pounds of deep fried fish, washing THAT down with sugar-free diet soda, and then starting on 8 pounds of deep fried boneless chicken. And then all you had to do afterwards was take a dump. Just like everyone else would after eating that amount of food.
      The act of eating food should be enjoyable, like when you bite into a sausage and grease squirts everywhere, or when you eat a medium rare kobe steak and the tastes of it cause you to blow your load in your pants, or when you take a nibble from a Big Mac or an Egg McMuffin (found only at McDonald's) and you feel such gustatory ecstasy that you feel like you just had 20 orgasms in a row and you want to use the app and buy more of those sandwiches because they are a cost effective path to happiness.

      >demonic
      Meds.

      have a nice day shill

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same reason you believe the teachers who teach based on US Govt guidelines who taught you about nutrition. You will argue in every thread about nutrition and needing this and that type of food or you'll be unhealthy all based on what these same people said, but then you disagree with something and suddenly you refer to - oh, right, the stuff the same people taught you in the past. They only lie NOW they didn't THEN!!!! 🙂

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A sad thing my american mother told me the other day is "Diets don't work, some people are just fat".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A sad thing my american mother told me the other day is
      Hahaha, who says "my american mother"?
      Fricking kek...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only because it's a global forum and I wanted to highlight where I'm from. I feel like she has given up on herself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >only because it's a global forum and I wanted to highlight where I'm from. I feel like she has given up on herself.
          I understand. I have an Ohioan-American mother, and sometimes I get the feeling that she has given up on food and sex, even though she is fat and has been working as a prostitute since before I was born.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can we get a photo of those top diet advisors?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can we get the ~~*names*~~ of those top diet advisors?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    our society, including government regulators and the academic/scientific establishment, is run by psychopaths who are actively trying to harm the population so as to extract more profit from them as they become progressively sicker and more dependent on the system

    exhibit 1, this study, which is a blatant lie
    https://newsroom.heart.org/news/8-hour-time-restricted-eating-linked-to-a-91-higher-risk-of-cardiovascular-death

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fasting manchildren in shambles

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >top diet advisors
    i bet

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eat salads, incel

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just going to use butter, bacon fat and EVOO for everything. Limit grains and starchy carbs to a reasonable amount, and focus on animal products, vegetables, fruits, nuts, etc.. I don't care if it's actually unhealthy. It just feels right to me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not unhealthy, that's the optimal diet

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still hasn't been refuted besides the big gym paid shill whose movie was proven to be staged

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so true king. keep eating that fast food.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you make that burger at home with good fresh ingredients, it's healthy
      fast food sloppa is loaded with vegetable oils from the sauces and soy additives, not to mention the vegetable quality is abysmal, and when eating out most people have fries which are full of veg oil and soda on the side, also some sugary shit for dessert. At home you can avoid all of that and just have a healthy burger with water

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vegetable oils from the sauces and soy additives

        as someone with zero knowledge, why are these bad? aren't these like part of 90% of asian cooking? or are those different?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Burgers at restaurants are going to be high in fat and the bread is going to be white high carb.

      I can make a double smash burger at home that is 400cal and 43g of protein.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >keto bun

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's just a high fiber bun so it's low in net calories. They call it a keto bun I'm just concerned about overall macros as I don't have a insulin response problem.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The United States
    >Has the most prestigious universities on Earth
    >Also fat people
    >Medical experts educated in the United States can't be right about things because of fat slobs who also live there
    You seem smart

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dude trust the science
      Has been the schizo talking point since the rona was a big deal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the US is a glorified third world country

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's dumb, 3rd world countries are defined by not being the US

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I think he meant a developing nation, which it is. Which is tantamount to the "thirdie" insult

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally the only thing that works is calories in, calories out. That's it. Nothing else works.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >daily mail

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NEARLY EVERYONE WHO CUTS OUT PROCESSED FOODS FROM THEIR DIET WILL TELL YOU THEY DO NOT FEEL AS SICK AS THEY USED TO AND THAT EATING PROCESSED FOODS MAKES THEM SICK AGAIN

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can confirm

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they stopped eating seed oil

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody has a different component of "ultra-processed foods" that they blame for 100% of its negative effects, but they never have convincing proof. I'm just going to stay away from all of it until you gays can get your shit together and figure out for sure which chemical boogeyman is the real culprit.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cheetos do not cause obesity! I eat them every day and I weigh 130 lbs.

    >eats one Cheeto every day, eats nothing else but veggies and drinks nothing but water

    Okay Cheetos LLC it's time to pay me.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >population finally stops eating poison
    >spike in mysterious deaths following experimental mass vaccination
    >"EAT THE POISON EAT IT EAT IT NOW"

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't stand how people blame their health problems on the government. Take responsibility for your actions.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Ultra-processed" is a weasel word that means nothing. It tells you Jack Diddly Dick about the nutritional content of the food. It's like saying people who don't buy organic food are fatter than people who do. Well no shit, Sherlock. If you have money to blow on organic bananas, you can probably afford to pay more attention to your health, sleep, and exercise (not to mention blow and hookers). You know what science actually says again and again? That obesity is caused by too many calories. If you take a diet and compare an identical diet with extra fat and sugar, of course you will find it causes more obesity, because it has more Calories, moron. All of the studies on "ultra-processed" foods (again, a nebulous term, you could call orange juice "ultra-processed") suggest that people eat more of them because they are delicious. Nobody wants to eat disgusting vegetables like some African tribal savage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess you're right. Ultra-processing might be fine if it was applied to a base of nutritious food. The issue is mainly that ultra-processed food often consists of refined carbs and refined oils which don't provide much other than calories and don't keep you satiated for very long so you end up overeating.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is right. Like there's zero inherent problem with HFCS. The problem with HFCS is that it's put in damn near everything in alarming amounts which jacks the calories up and is a sugar which beetus. Same thing with sodium. Salt and MSG aren't bad. They're bad in massive amounts. Nutrition is literally "the dose makes the poison" which is why the moronic diets that wholly eliminate one macro or another are moronic. You need all the shit. You just don't necessarily need a lot of all of it, and a lot of it can be very, very bad for you--or more generally: it's fine in the short term, but fricks you if you keep getting too much over the long term.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love these threads where people attempt to deny basic reality, like: eating too much food will make you fat.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This whole "it's not societies fault at all it's all personal responsibility" so does America (don't bring out the blame hispanics and blacks cope please) just have more degenerate and less responsibile people than other 1st world countries?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. We have a lot more people who suck at impulse control. Combine that with generally looser regulatory environment (making access to things with negative value easier), and you end up with well...all of this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      plenty of countries are fatter. I've yet to see mexicans and britbongs denying that shoveling food in their mouths is the cause of their weight though
      >so does America just have more degenerate and less responsibile people
      No question. What "civilized country" has people shooting each other over snow shoveling or masks?

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I’m not gonna take a bunch of clowns who decided that a diet filled with empty carbs via that pyramid was best and can’t decide if eggs are the devil or not (they aren’t and they’re beyond based) seriously regardless. I’ll listen to them when the populace isn’t just a bunch of lardasses.
    t. skelly

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