Why is America the only country that uses high fructose corn syrup in soda? Even shitholes like Mexico use cane sugar.

Why is America the only country that uses high fructose corn syrup in soda? Even shitholes like Mexico use cane sugar.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Farmers are paid to grow corn, so it's in everything.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is America the only country that uses high fructose corn syrup in soda?
    It isn't you disingenuous frick

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is, actually. HFCS isn't really a thing outside of USA and maybe Canada. It only exists in specialty imports of products normally domestic to USA.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Trips of shame.
        China: 20% of sweeters are HFCS
        Japan: 30%
        Mexico: 27%
        The EU uses it under a different name (isoglucose or glucose–fructose syrup) and is 30% fructose instead of 42% like in the US.
        Many Asian-Pacific countries like India, Vietnam and the Philippines also use it. China has a large export market for HFCS so other Asian countries are increasingly using it because it's cheaper than sugar, even if from domestic sources.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So less than 50% every time, and I'm betting corn syrup is being lumped in with HFCS. It's only really a thing in USA.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Youre moving the goalpost, Black. Just like that I know this isn't going to be an honest discussion

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HFCS is only a US thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        please read the thread first before replying and embarrassing yourself, or just don't talk about stuff if you do not know anything about it

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Corn subsidies + cane sugar tariffs = HFCS used in fricking everything

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      tpbp

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    refined cane sugar is incredibly bad for you, not different at all from corn syrup.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Both have 0 of the 9 essential amino acids (prevents your body from eating itself). Even honey has mostly 0 actual nutrition.

      That's why carbs/sugars are so bad for you, you either eat like a glutton to get enough of those 9 essential amino acids OR you don't and your body starts eating itself, which includes your brain.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your brain and muscles like to use carbs for energy though. And fat doesn't have amino acids either, only protein does. And you'll get very sick if you consume just pure protein with no fat or carbs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Right but there's a reason we call the them 9 "ESSENTIAL" amino acids. If you don't get them from your diet your body will rip them out of your skeletal muscles (at first) and at some point your fricking brain. It's horrifying how many people don't understand this.

          The modern day israeli food pyramid has LITERALLY made people moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True but you don't really need that much. You need like 60g of protein to not be deficient. Higher is optimal but even 100g of protein would be only 400 calories. Fat and carbs can still provide more micronutrients and energy.

            Refined sugar is mostly bad because it's refined, not because it's sugar. Fruit, whole grains, and root vegetables provide most of their calories from carbs but still provide more nutrition.

            The food pyramid recommended up to 6 servings of meat/dairy/eggs every day, and 6 servings of carbs would be acceptable according to it as well. The food pyramid was confusing and misleading but not as bad as people say.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The israeli food pyramid had NOTHING to do with health and I'm NOT talking about "protein" but literally the 9 specific amino acids we NEED to survive. 100 grams of peanut butter "protein" is only equal to like 50 grams of "protein" from steak.

              We really haven't even done any thoughrough studies on how many of these 9 essential amino acids we really need. It's a VERY difficult thing to guage because it's hard to measure the rate at which the body is eating itself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is disingenuous. Your body constantly breaks down and rebuilds proteins. Mixing more than two types of proteins, eg beans and rice, make complete proteins. Even the people who originally came up with the PDCAAS model denounce it for its inaccuracy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not really. Beans are even worse than rice because they contain a frickton of anti-nutrients and boiling doesn't remove them all.

                The end result is always the same, plant "protein" is very poor quality and you require more of it than animal protein so it's VERY common for vegans to look like POWs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Always wonder what Skeletor's wife looked like.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is literally correct. Meat, milk, animal fat and eggs contain everything you need for human nutrition. People were poor in the past so they had to use grains and vegetables to fill their stomach's. It's slave gruel, sometimes with no nutrition at all.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                She literally died of 'starvation'.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yup, all that plant matter for the most part is indigestible. Even if you have really good resistance to plant toxins you're not getting your RDA of 9 essential amino acids.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off Gundry

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you either eat like a glutton to get enough of those 9 essential amino acids OR you don't
        Or you eat a balanced diet and stop pretending that people can only consume a single type of macronutrient.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >calling other countries shitholes
    Biden’s america is VERY close to becoming a shithole.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Biden is one of the best presidents in history and easily the best in the last 10 years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      my portfolio has already recovered from the past year, sounds like a (You) problem

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cane sugar soda has an awful aftertaste while corn syrup soda is smooth. i'd take cane sugar in basically everything else except soda.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't think it was even possible to be this wrong.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >cane sugar
    is chemically identical to HFCS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit. My body knows the difference.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Table sugar is basically 100% sucrose, which is 50% glucose and 50% fructose. HFCS can have 55% (or even more) fructose, and some people, especially children, can have adverse reactions when consuming high quantities of fructose relative to glucose.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >and some people, especially children, can have adverse reactions when consuming high quantities of fructose relative to glucose.

        lol, lmao even

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it isn't, sucrose is exactly 50:50 glucose fructose as a bonded molecule
      corn syrup is "roughly" 50:50 unbonded glucose and fructose syrups
      HFCS is most commonly "roughly" 55:45 and 42:58 fructose glucose depending on what it's in
      it's still all fricking sugar and does the same thing to your body, sucrose just needs to be broken down before it's metabolized

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Then why does it taste different?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically it's all just fructose and sucrose that get broken down rapidly into glucose. Anyone pretending they're worse for you is a gay moron who can't read

      it isn't, sucrose is exactly 50:50 glucose fructose as a bonded molecule
      corn syrup is "roughly" 50:50 unbonded glucose and fructose syrups
      HFCS is most commonly "roughly" 55:45 and 42:58 fructose glucose depending on what it's in
      it's still all fricking sugar and does the same thing to your body, sucrose just needs to be broken down before it's metabolized

      Yeah that miniscule difference in glucose and fructose is really gonna do you in anon

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Even shitholes like Mexico use cane sugar.

    Only the mexican coke *for export to the USA* has cane sugar.
    Mexican coke products, *for the domestic mexican market* use a mixture of corn syrup, acesulfame, and sucralose.

    Coke did it in the UK, and now they are doing it (because of government regulations) in mexico.
    They TRIED to do it with Seagrams ginger ale years ago, and it was so bad they eventually changed the recipe back.

    Mexico has big fricking "excessive calories" and "excessive sugar" warnings on their sodas too.

    Pic related is a Squirt for the mexican market.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can't buy original recipe lucozade any more
    kill me pete

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cause Mexican people are great example of physical beauty and health.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i don't know but we have the grand canyon and white women and rock and roll and other countries don't so whos to say that corn syrup doesn't have something to do with that

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They just use whatever is cheapest. Over here it's usually sugar made from beets instead of cane.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It gets better. Now, in the richer parts of town, you can find “craft soda”, which advertises that it uses REAL CANE SUGAR on the bottle. It’s triple the price, of course.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the difference between this stuff and beet sugar? That's the stuff they use across the Atlantic.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Real answer is that the US had crazy subsidies for corn production during WW2 for ethanol and we never got rid of them so they had to figure out ways to use the waste products and HFCS was one of the obvious ones. So people just got used to it.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to stay from HFCS is easy. It's that pesty Sneed oil which is hard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, staying away from HFCS is extremely easy. Just don't buy anything that has it.

      To avoid seed oil, you'd probably have to avoid eating out ever.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First of all its pop. Second something something farmers are too moronic to grow anything other than corn or are being paid by the government to grow the corn and the government has too much corn so they find shitty ways to use the excess corn like in pop or making god awful E85 fuel that destroys cars. Look anon you are looking at the same government that was sitting on a literal mountain of cheese because congress and the president kept kicking the can down the road on dairy farming post WWII.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Even shitholes like Mexico use cane sugar.
    When is the last time you have been to Mexico? They use a mix of HFCS and sucralose. I can only speak upon Jalisco, Mexico. I was heart broken the last two times I visited. It's not the Mexico of my childhood. Globalization has raped a once proud nation.. again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      puto

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Globalization has raped a once proud nation.. again.
      - man raping once proud nation

      Go the frick back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's a proud trump voter and /misc/ poster.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because their commie govt would rather subsidize worthless shit crops instead of growing something worth a damn

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because in the 70s the American cane sugar industry was languishing due to cheap import sugar from South America so Congress passed a tariff on foreign sugar to try and save the US industry. The problem is American sugar was more expensive so food and beverage manufacturers just switched to corn syrup which was cheaper due to subsidized corn and the US cane sugar industry died anyway and the tariffs have never been repealed because then corn farmers would get mad. If the government didn't subsidize corn out the fricking ass and didn't tax cheap foreign sugar then no one would use HFCS. It's literally all the government's fault.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely nowhere on that diagram does it explain how or why HFS is any more dangerous than any other sugar. You'd be just as fricked eating an equal amount of raw cane or beet sugar.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Using what ingredients are more available is... bad
    HFCS isn't any worse than cane sugar.

    You shouldn't be consuming significant amounts of either, and should eat foods with added sugar in moderation only.

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