>8% beers, particularly belgian ones. >taste delicious and are highly drinkable

>8% beers, particularly belgian ones
>taste delicious and are highly drinkable
>can get drunk off beer without feeling bloated

Why did the Beer Illuminati settle on 5% as the accepted standard for a standard beer?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did the Beer Illuminati settle on 5%
    increase sales volume

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The unfortunate reason, corporate greed.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a lot of different beer styles that are between 5% and 11%, eg. British strong ales.
    Above 11% though is considered a barley wine.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes of course, but those styles aren't common at all and aren't easy to find in supermarkets or the average pub.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Above 11% though is considered a barley wine.
      There are plenty of imperial stouts, the best type of beer, over 11%.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explain Eisbock

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but it's a freeze distilled doppelbock. Take a doppelbock, bring the temperature down enough to freeze some of the water, and separate out the liquid. This concentrates the beer into a strong, dark, syrupy lager.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why
    They're being weak.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the brix of the must/wort. grape juice has a sugar concentration that naturally likes to femerent to 12%. grains are dry so you need to add water to the mash. too much water results in lower concentration ergo lower abv- it will also taste watery. there's also a limit to how many lbs of grain you can possibly fit into a gallon of water, so there's an upper limit to abv until you start doing decoction mashing (boiling the water off to concentrate) or some other bullshit. adds high fructose corn syurp and ferments that. not to mention too high gravity will affect your pitch rate / yeast metabolism etc. while you can go higher 5% was settled on as kind of the natural grain-water ratio while still having full flavor
      if you want to le get drunk go buy wine or liquor

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        genuinely fascinating, thanks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice info dump, thanks

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they usually add sugar with those high abv belgians to boost the alcohol
        but other than that i'm going to shut up because i'm a brainlet when it comes to beer

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they usually add sugar
          Which isn't even necessary. See Bockbier. And even those are on the rather sweet side.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's a quick and easy way to get extra alcohol
            >And even those are on the rather sweet side
            you're going full moron here. the sugar gets fermented and doesn't influence the sweetness in any way

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the sugar gets fermented and doesn't influence the sweetness in any way
              More gravity more sugar. If you don't let it fully ferment you end with a rest of sugar making a beer sweet/malty.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you don't let it fully ferment you end with a rest of sugar making a beer sweet/malty.
                fairly sure they don't do that. and how would you even do that besides pasteurisation or turning the beer into a chemical wienertail
                the reason they add sugar is pretty clear and sweetening isn't it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                to further illustrate my argument, i do brewing left and right and i did measure the gravity of rochefort one time for shit and giggles, it was 1,01
                which is relatively high but it shows you're not drinking sugar water. tried to cultivate the yeast from a bottle as well but that didn't work. chimay however does every single time

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The abv would be even higher if they would fully ferment the sugar swill.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but they fully ferment it you fricking moron. the relatively low abv of beer compared to wine is done in like a week so you'd need to hourly monitor the gravity to get a sweet product. if you really want sweet beer you let the fermentation finish and add non fermentable sugars or disable the yeast by heat or chemicals but i know for a fact they are fermented in the bottle to get the C02 so that yeast is still active
                there simply can't be any sugar in there or the bottle would go boom

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there simply can't be any sugar in there or the bottle would go boom
                Just like in sweet wines i guess.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wines aren't carbonated. chimay literally has "fermented on the bottle" on its label
                please tell me, which non fermentable sweetener do the monks add?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there are three different versions. my mother really likes the white one, i prefer the blue
        they have that full taste i can't really describe, but you really notice the difference between that and mediocre festival beer like stella and jupiler
        one of the perks of this shithole is that they're around €5/L

        >Why did the Beer Illuminati settle on 5% as the accepted standard for a standard beer?
        honestly its varied wildly over time
        in ancient times beer was like 1 or 2% or less. i remember when i started drinking in the 90s most beer was 3-4%ish.
        over time 5% became the standard until hoppy hipster homosexual shit started hitting the market and its crept up to 7~9%.

        people's tastes just change and shit goes in and out of fashion over time.
        like how bell bottom pants were a 70s thing, then early 90s, then a fad for 6 months around the early 00s, then have disappeared again until recently and now you see girls wear them again these days every now and then.

        but they fully ferment it you fricking moron. the relatively low abv of beer compared to wine is done in like a week so you'd need to hourly monitor the gravity to get a sweet product. if you really want sweet beer you let the fermentation finish and add non fermentable sugars or disable the yeast by heat or chemicals but i know for a fact they are fermented in the bottle to get the C02 so that yeast is still active
        there simply can't be any sugar in there or the bottle would go boom

        >WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAGERS AND ALES???
        moronic fricking Black folk
        https://www.google.com/?hl=en

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there an exact figure for the highest upper limit we can get to without engaging in various brewing tricks to up the ABV? Can we go higher than 5% with beer?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that's what i was alluding to with my "how many lbs of grain can you possibly fit into a gallon of water". obviously the finer your grind it the better packing density but then you'll wind up with stuck mashes. also have to consider diastatic efficiency, directing the fermentation to produce strictly ethanol instead of other byproducts (and prevent competing microbes), reaching the solubility cap of the water, etc. I'm too lazy to pull out my equipment but off a quick google it seems extract brewers could probably get to 12-16% i'd reckon. but of course my point here is that getting to those percentages is already "doing extra brewing tricks". so to answer your question more directly without giving yourself a headache brewing probably 8% or so is reasonable, but again 5% is the least pain in the ass while still retaining good flavor

          [...]
          [...]
          [...]
          >WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAGERS AND ALES???
          moronic fricking Black folk
          https://www.google.com/?hl=en

          this has nothing to do with "muh ales and lagers" you fricking moronic homosexual. the difference is honestly moronic entry-level trivia pseuds like to flaunt around

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >plastic bottle

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cuz they know drunk hobos are gonna drop em

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man, would love to try a 40 once. Can't find them in Germany though

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why?
    jews

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The beer with 667 in the upc code is called sneaky rat. It's a nice joke because if you tell anyone they're going to inject you to fix you. But I think the real joke is, you don't have to be sneaky. Nobody even cares because it was all just a trick to waste our time. But, god really does seem to be making beer. That's interesting. I'm so impressed with what he's done for us. That's incredible. No sex though, so not too impressed, I'm actually looking into kingslaying

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    la choufe wheat
    franziskaner dunkel
    aventinus
    paulaner

    those are the chosen ones, for me

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for me it's blue chimay and rochefort

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I tried one chimay, didn't like it, rochefort I don't think I've treid though

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there are three different versions. my mother really likes the white one, i prefer the blue
          they have that full taste i can't really describe, but you really notice the difference between that and mediocre festival beer like stella and jupiler
          one of the perks of this shithole is that they're around €5/L

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me, it's Duvel, although I quite like Leffe too

      I remember a few years ago when I'd just turned 18 my friend took me to his local pub and they had Sierra Nevada on tap, I can't remember the ABV but it was more than what I was used to and three pints of that fricked little old me up real good

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dream of having one of the ones I mentioned on tap, but perhaps it is not too realistic to have outside of germany or whatever

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >duvel
        I see it's classic beer, to me I like me a porter or a black beer or a belgian, but all in all, I like wheat beer, prefferably on the dark side

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >duvel
        I see it's classic beer, to me I like me a porter or a black beer or a belgian, but all in all, I like wheat beer, prefferably on the dark side

        once that said, If I see it and I'm pretty sure I've indeed seen it I'll buy one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        leffe has a very distinct taste and i don't mean that in a bad way
        very recognisable

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          leffe is godlike, for me it stands tall next to these:

          la choufe wheat
          franziskaner dunkel
          aventinus
          paulaner

          those are the chosen ones, for me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            in my opinion it's good beer but i still prefer the dark abbeys like st. bernardus and trappist rochefort
            to each his own. and geuzes i really dislike even though is a specialty from very close where i live

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bernardus is pretty good, trappist rochefort I have yet to try
              but there's this beer,
              https://bierboi.com/tienda/12/BOI6ABA
              ridiculously good, heavy to drink, but the high is oh boy, this shit's good

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bernardus is pretty good, trappist rochefort I have yet to try
                they're quite similar

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                good to know

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Drink monk beer not devil's swill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't know La Chouffe made a wheat beer
      Try Rothaus hefeweizen
      Also I think Weihenstephaner is much better than Paulaner

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why did the Beer Illuminati settle on 5% as the accepted standard for a standard beer?
    honestly its varied wildly over time
    in ancient times beer was like 1 or 2% or less. i remember when i started drinking in the 90s most beer was 3-4%ish.
    over time 5% became the standard until hoppy hipster homosexual shit started hitting the market and its crept up to 7~9%.

    people's tastes just change and shit goes in and out of fashion over time.
    like how bell bottom pants were a 70s thing, then early 90s, then a fad for 6 months around the early 00s, then have disappeared again until recently and now you see girls wear them again these days every now and then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The proliferation of spirits and the high gravity shit has been an absolute disaster for human civilization. It's like handing every young adult a loaded gun. So dangerous and self-destructive.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of people aren't drinking to get drunk anon they just like the taste and a small feeling of relaxation. Losing control over yourself isn't a nice/comfortable feeling in every circumstance.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frickin Bernardus 12 and Rochefort 10 used to be readily available at my local BevMo before craft beer took off and now they never have them. Motherfricker.
    They do have fricking 7,000 different shitty moron IPAs though.
    Frick.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because sometimes you just want something nice and refreshing. While I love a good duvel or chouffe, I'm not gonna drink it after a long day or on a warm summer evening/day.
    >can get drunk without feeling bloated
    Heavier beers like chouffe, st bernardus or westmalle tripel should be drank for taste alone, not for getting drunk. I'd even argue 5% pilsner beer is ideal for getting drunk because it hydrates better, and the lower precentage means there's a physical limit to how much you can comfortably drink so there's less chance of you completely blacking out. Because let's face it, being slightly to moderately drunk is more fun than being completely smashed and forgetting half the evening.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now since this is a beer related thread, I want to ask the other anons a question: do you also find that beer from a can tastes different? All the beer I drink from cans has this weird metallic taste to them even when put into a glass.
    Case in point: Leffe. In a bottle I find it ok. Just fairly bland and a bit sweet, but I recently bought a few cans of it and I find it absolutely undrinkable because the beer can taste completely overpowers whatever taste Leffe has.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's weird I'd swear most cans in most countries come with a layer of plastic on the inside just to avoid what you're describing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's between your ears so i suggest doing a blind taste test
      and you need to be an animal to drink from a can, always pour it in a glass

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I remember this with Chouffe and Pilsner Urquell. Tasted worse from a can.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also seems hit or miss per can. Maybe the plastic layer is incorrectly applied in some of them.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love Duvel in the champagne bottle.

    For the most part I drink saisons at 6-7%, Dupont is one of my favorites

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The British beer llluminati is even worse. Your 5.0% Carlsberg is 3.8% here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i blame scotland

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of beers in the UK got their abv nuked over the past year or so, something to do with changes to alcohol duty
      Leffe for example is now 6% instead of the 6.6 version you get elsewhere

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything over about 7% fricks me up. Whenever I get 8%+ beers I'll have a couple, not even feel buzzed, but wake up the next morning feeling like absolute shit.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy being a prick about a lot of stuff, I'm the type of guy who wiki's sushi while eating sushi, I care about knowing things and experiencing things
    but not for beer, which is interesting as I drank like 10.000 litres of beer probably by 29 lol

    never really enjoyed any beer other than a stout or a lager, so I just stopped trying some years ago. for me, its
    >whichever lagers on the tap, thanks

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I picked up a bottle of this for cheap, I really like porters and brown ales, what do people think of it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nie wiem czy ktokolwiek myśli o żywcu

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    every 8% gets me extremely drunk so the belgians must be creating some special potion

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i FRICKING love belgian style beers

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strong wheat beer from the brewery that makes the GOAT wheat beer
      goddaaaamn i wish i could get that here without getting israeliteed by ordering online

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You fell for a marketing meme. Nobody gives a shit about Weihenstephaner in Germany.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this lmao

          who gives a frick how popular it is it’s still a solid beer

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Beer instead of liquor
    >same shit taste vs varieties of liquors
    >3% ABV vs 50% ABV
    >need 6 gorillion liters to get slightly buzzed
    >bloated.jpg
    >inevitable feeling of throwing up due to stomach being at 150% capacity
    >end up with shit NORF FC beer belly 10 years after drinking
    >healthy with liquor
    >muuuhh what do you have in your hand while others drink
    Drink slowly or/and with something else

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >same shit taste vs varieties of liquors
      varieties of beer dont exist
      >3% ABV vs 50% ABV
      ok?
      >need 6 gorillion liters to get slightly buzzed
      true
      >end up with shit NORF FC beer belly based
      >healthy with liquor
      delusional alchie
      >muuuhh what do you have in your hand while others drink
      autist “checking phone” tier

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've had awful hangovers with this particular beer; without drinking much. I doubt it's only 8%, I think they lie about it. It's probably more like 15%

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